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koods
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo] 3
#21708758 - 05/22/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I do think that public opinion of cops is plummeting, and public opinion is what keeps them out of jail and trouble for shooting and beating citizens. Without the benefit of the doubt that juries give cops, indictments and convictions will become more routineQuote:
Epigallo said: I just think its patently stupid to hate on police as a group. Our society would fall apart without law enforcement, and a lot of them are doing important jobs. Do you realize how stupid it is to hate a person because there is a law that he didn't make but he is nevertheless supposed to follow? Countless cops don't give a shit about whether you smoke weed or eat mushrooms, yet you demonize them because of their livelihood.
No, I think a lot of these generalizations are fair. The cop culture is pervasive and rigid. People that don't fit in won't make it as a cop.
Cops are members of a gang, and like any gang, loyalty to the gang and membership is the golden rule.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708761 - 05/22/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Countless cops do, and arrests for crimes that arnt anti-social in the slightest account for the majority of arrests. Purely by statistics they are responsible for millions of lives being absolutely ruined over harmless things like marijuana. Anyone who willingly signs up to do that to people is fucked up in my books.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708762 - 05/22/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They give a shit about the money they make when they bust us
The entire police force is a mafia and anyone who doesn't recognize this is blind
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
#21708769 - 05/22/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pervasive and rigid? I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. A culture pervades the values of all individuals that belong to it, by definition. And I think discipline-heavy vocations such as that of police officers would tend to have a rigid rather than flexible culture. Goes with the territory.
But I didn't say that there is nothing wrong with the police culture. I assume you mean in the US because that's where you are located. I think there is a great deal wrong with it. But I still believe in giving everyone individual total respect until he actively disrespects you.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21708772 - 05/22/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Countless cops do, and arrests for crimes that arnt anti-social in the slightest account for the majority of arrests. Purely by statistics they are responsible for millions of lives being absolutely ruined over harmless things like marijuana. Anyone who willingly signs up to do that to people is fucked up in my books.
Don't make assumptions about someone's intents.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#21708780 - 05/22/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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OhMrJohnson said: They give a shit about the money they make when they bust us
The entire police force is a mafia and anyone who doesn't recognize this is blind
Only recently did the federal government ban the seizure of property without reason. Departments were out there robbing people of their cash on the highways with impunity.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708781 - 05/22/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dont tell me what to do, more importantly address what im saying instead of making some pissant cop out.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708784 - 05/22/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's pretty safe to assume the average cop will fuck you if he finds you with a significant amount of drugs
Sometimes assumptions can be quite accurate
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708786 - 05/22/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Epigallo said: But I still believe in giving everyone individual total respect until he actively disrespects you.
well in that case the fat lady has sung
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21708795 - 05/22/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Dont tell me what to do, more importantly address what im saying instead of making some pissant cop out.
LOL. Okay, do what you want. I was addressing what you were saying - you are assuming that a cop signs up with the intent of ruining drug users' lives. Feel free to run wild with that assumption. Be wild and care free with your hate.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708808 - 05/22/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That wasnt what I was saying at all. They sign up for the power, the majority of them anyways. Few cops sign up for "the greater good" its all about money and force.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708812 - 05/22/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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cops are all about that hate, where do u think they get their power from, cuz it sure dont come from lovin a nigga.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#21708843 - 05/22/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay, sorry. I do see your point. I myself would never want to be a cop even if all drugs were legal and I never had to arrest anyone, and I don't quite understand personalities that do. I was just kind of compelled to make this point after a cop pulled me over but then was super chill and dismissed the ticket. But I agree that cop culture is a cesspool. Partly I was just bored and wanted to start a contentious topic.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21708896 - 05/22/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Epigallo said: Okay, sorry. I do see your point. I myself would never want to be a cop even if all drugs were legal and I never had to arrest anyone, and I don't quite understand personalities that do. I was just kind of compelled to make this point after a cop pulled me over but then was super chill and dismissed the ticket. But I agree that cop culture is a cesspool. Partly I was just bored and wanted to start a contentious topic.
Did you actually do something to deserve a ticket? Maybe what happened had nothing to do with him being chill. Maybe he wanted to get a better look in your car, or you matched a description. Maybe what you thought was a cop being nice, was a cop making illegal stops without probable cause so he can violate your civil rights by making you think you got lucky.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
#21710145 - 05/22/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, I did something. If he pulled me over for no reason I would not state that he was being chill.
This really gets back to my original notion that drug users are SEARCHING for faults and reasons to hate on each and every cop. Such a bad attitude is not going to win any leniency or understanding from them.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
#21710181 - 05/22/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, believe it or not, a little politeness and courtesy can go a long way. There's been a few incidents where I've been caught with a little bit of weed, and all the cop did was confiscate the weed and let me go my way. I'm pretty sure if I gave the cops a huge hairy attitude, I've been arrested and thrown in jail.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Le_Canard]
#21710194 - 05/22/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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One time a cop caught me walking around town smoking a J. All he said to me was to be careful because there could be kids around.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Le_Canard]
#21710519 - 05/22/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: Well, believe it or not, a little politeness and courtesy can go a long way. There's been a few incidents where I've been caught with a little bit of weed, and all the cop did was confiscate the weed and let me go my way. I'm pretty sure if I gave the cops a huge hairy attitude, I've been arrested and thrown in jail.
This has probably never happened to a black person ever.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
#21710538 - 05/22/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sad, but true.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
#21710553 - 05/22/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said:
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OhMrJohnson said: They give a shit about the money they make when they bust us
The entire police force is a mafia and anyone who doesn't recognize this is blind
Only recently did the federal government ban the seizure of property without reason. Departments were out there robbing people of their cash on the highways with impunity.
True dat yo.
A cop took 16 dollars from me once, when I was 17 because it was "Drug money" (I was being an angsty teenage piece of shit, because he took my weed though)
I should have just shut my fucking mouth, but instead I payed 16 dollars to talk shit to these fuckers.
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