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Gr0wer
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: drake89]
#22026336 - 07/31/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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@Solarity, That grow was with the old cool mist FAE setup. The new bucket setup pushes about 2x the volume @ around 50-70 CFM (48 CF grow chamber). I'm currently getting about 1-2 exchanges per minute. So they should look a bit better. We will find out over the next week as my pails should be pinning now. If i want more FAE i have 120V 4" fans i can replace the computer fan with
@drake I haven't had any issues with my phoenix pinning inside the bags so far, might be the strain(s) you used?
I made a vid explaining the setup if anyone wants to check it out. Please let me know if the link doesn't work. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1WIWZLktcVUTkdlaWI2aUdweW8/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22116176 - 08/20/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Solarity, you seem to be 100% correct about FAE. With the chamber this full the mushrooms are getting a little too lanky to make nice clusters for market. I think ill be stepping up the ducting to 6" ducting.
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22153784 - 08/27/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I upgraded my intake blower fan with great results. I went with a used 110V ac fan i had on hand. It pushes around 100 CFM and easily pushes twice as much air as my 80mm computer fan. Now i need to upgrade my exhaust fan to equalize the airflow. Im also now 2 degrees F cooler inside my chamber than room temp, previously i was 5-8F higher so this is great since my garage is always warm. It also is telling me the swamp cooler is working as designed. The air smells a lot fresher in there now. With my new batch of pails slated to go in next week hopefully my fruit clusters are tighter with larger caps.
 blue thermometer is ambient temp, display is chamber temp. Here is the unit im using, its a COMAIR ROTRON MX2B3 105 CFM axial cooling fan designed for servers and industrial computer components

http://www.grainger.com/product/COMAIR-ROTRON-Axial-Fan-5N471
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22194804 - 09/05/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks awesome!!
Where did you get those kick ass mushroom statues sitting on top of your greenhouse?
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22205956 - 09/08/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey bro, I've been researching a lot about GH... And it seems you might give me a good answer since it seems your quite good with GH's.
I'm going to be building my GH soon, it will be maybe around 6ft x 3ft x 3ft..
I'll be making a bucket fogger, so I'm getting 1 head ultrasonic fogger (500 ml per hour), and I'll also get 2 fans (124 CFM, waterproof).
My question is... is the CFM of my fan too high? or is 1 head fogger not enough? Because I'll put one fan for the bucket and might also put the second one on top of the GH for more FAE, or should i just put one fan for the bucket and let it run 24/7 while the fogger on a hygrostat so that it turns on or off at the desired humidity
What do you think would be good?
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#22216607 - 09/10/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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100 cfm sounds about right for that size, it also depends how much substrate you pack into the chamber and what species you plan to grow. With small oyster grows with a lot of substrate you will need constant FAE for cooling and Co2. I would recommend running a second fogger, simply because if one fails you will still get humidity, and have a third on hand as a backup replacement. You will want one fan for intake feeding the humidity pail/tote and one for exhaust down low to pull the spores outside and away. I would highly recommend either having your exhaust fan accessible and easy to clean or install a exhaust filter to collect the spores. I need to clean my exhaust fan and duct at least monthly or it will clog and seize due to spores. For your humidification mount the fan on the pail lid and have another hole in the lid with outlet duct running to your chamber or you can place the pail inside your chamber and run a fresh air duct feeding the fans intake.
Update to the grow chamber, i will be disassembling the chamber over the next month and integrating the parts into a larger 7'x7'x10' walk in grow room. The fans will be a 440 CFM IF6 VenTech 6" on a speed controler feeding the swamp cooler and 8" DF-8 for the exhaust with a large intake filter. All the ducting will be 6" and 8". The lighting will be 2 8' floros mounted outside the top of the chamber with a clear poly roof. I hope to place 30-50 pails in there, and upgrade my pasteurizer to a 300 gal tote and get an all american 41qt PC, or two. Ill start a new thread for that build/grow and link on this thread.
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Quote:
mikesethnobotany said: Looks awesome!!
Where did you get those kick ass mushroom statues sitting on top of your greenhouse?
I've collected them from here and there, i find them in the garden sections. I only collect frogs and mushrooms and mushrooms with frog combos. At my house in MD i had them scattered all through the garden, its funny when ppl think they are real mushrooms.
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22217779 - 09/10/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Gr0wer said: 100 cfm sounds about right for that size, it also depends how much substrate you pack into the chamber and what species you plan to grow. With small oyster grows with a lot of substrate you will need constant FAE for cooling and Co2. I would recommend running a second fogger, simply because if one fails you will still get humidity, and have a third on hand as a backup replacement. You will want one fan for intake feeding the humidity pail/tote and one for exhaust down low to pull the spores outside and away. I would highly recommend either having your exhaust fan accessible and easy to clean or install a exhaust filter to collect the spores. I need to clean my exhaust fan and duct at least monthly or it will clog and seize due to spores. For your humidification mount the fan on the pail lid and have another hole in the lid with outlet duct running to your chamber or you can place the pail inside your chamber and run a fresh air duct feeding the fans intake.
I would mostly be growing cubes, reishi, and turkey tails... And a good thing is that my fogger comes with 3 free ceramic disks.
I might skip the exhaust fan though hehe, I'd rather clean the spores my self, cus the other fan i have is also 124 CFM and im afraid it could cause like static pressure or something (I'm not sure though cus this GH wont be fully closed or air tight) if i have them both working (will it?) so i might keep it as a reserve.
One more question
 I'll be making a border larger than the shelves with normal PVC piping and plastic sheet that (1.85m x 65cm x 1m) just so that that outlet of the humidifier doesn't touch the shelves... Should the outlet duct be at the bottom of the chamber or on top? (I'm guessing bottom cus humid air is lighter than dry air). And also what size duct/pipe would you say i should get for the outlet?
Thanks!
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#22220821 - 09/11/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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With those varieties you shouldn't have too much of a spore issue. I have two inlets one at the top and one in the middle. My exhaust is at the bottom. You shouldn't need too much fae with those species so you can easily run your fans on a timer or restricted. The exhaust should be the same size or slightly larger especially if your not using an exhaust fan.
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22223140 - 09/11/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I installed the IF6 on my existing setup. Freaking FAE monster! It's on a speed controller, i have it turned down to low and its a strong breeze in the chamber. With it on high its like a hair dryer coming out of the PVC ducts. This fan should easily support my larger 70 sq/ft grow and even larger to come.
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22224437 - 09/11/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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New fan, way overkill!! 
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22225782 - 09/12/15 04:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So the one fan on the bucket should run on a timer best? Wouldn't that sometimes restrict the movement of humid air? cus my humidifier would be on a hygrostat (come with humidity control and a timer)

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Gr0wer said: The exhaust should be the same size or slightly larger especially if your not using an exhaust fan.
The outlet pipe should be a slightly larger size than what exactly?
Thanks for the replies btw, really helpful !
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#22235989 - 09/14/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You shouldn't need constant fae especially on the order of 100cfm 24/7, run it on a timer say 30 min on 30 off or as needed. Your outlet should be the same size or slightly larger than your intake duct.
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22236076 - 09/14/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright man.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your help!
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Re: Gr0 Greenhouse Build [Re: Teemo 6T3]
#22734879 - 01/04/16 07:55 AM (8 years, 27 days ago) |
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Re: Gr0wers Automated Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#22991063 - 03/10/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just ordered foggers and fans because I'm tired of pulling out and refilling 1 gallon coolmist and ultrasonic humidifiers all the time, and because with my current setup it's difficult to keep both air and humidity up unless I want to refill those butcher every day or so. 
I'm going to add the swamp cooler addition too, in order to cool things down a little bit now that warm weather is coming up and I won't be able to drop ten degrees in a room by just closing the heater vent. How deep is the water level in that bucket? Does it matter that much? It's the drip hose circulating water to the top of the pad that keeps it wet, right?
Also, I don't have an easy way to feed water into it, and don't want to have to refill often, so I'm considering using a 20 or 30 gallon garbage can full of water to feed everything through the float valve, does that seem reasonable? I wouldn't mind dragging a garden hose through the front door to refill that part as long as I don't have to do it super-often, I just can't keep it continually hooked to a water source without doing a lot of plumbing I don't want to do.
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Re: Gr0wers Automated Greenhouse Build [Re: Sivarted]
#22994413 - 03/10/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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The water level is about 3", just enough for the swamp cooler pump to be submerged. I find using a sprinkler to work much better for swamp coolers, take a look at my other large grow room build.
A garbage can will work, But there's no way you can tap off a pipe or something for a constant supply? Im currently drawing off my laundry room, i put a Y off my cold water supply faucet. It only needs to be a 1/4 hose ran through the house.
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Re: Gr0wers Automated Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#23008111 - 03/15/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Update vid on the grow. Should near 200 lbs this month on grey oysters alone. I already plucked 3-4 large clusters the day before off these six logs. Total harvest 24 lbs over 3 days first flush.
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Re: Gr0wers Automated Greenhouse Build [Re: Gr0wer]
#23363555 - 06/20/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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how are you cutting holes in the steel drum? Just a hole saw?
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Re: Gr0wers Automated Greenhouse Build [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23363999 - 06/20/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm using a plastic drum but I drill and tap em.
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