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mtnmike
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For science!
#21707917 - 05/21/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've looked into mycology a few times over the last few years and it seemed interesting enough but for whatever reason I never did anything with it. This past weekend I was given a morel that was found by my mom during a visit. She told me people can sell them for nearly $50/lb.
Now, I have around 80 petri dishes, enough powdered agar to build a sand castle, malt extract, dextrose, etc, and I've purchased samples of 5 other varieties of mushrooms from the local co-op that fetch decent prices. I'd never buy a pound or morels, but they sure are delicious.
Thanks for being here to support my new obsession
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Ghatti
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Re: For science! [Re: mtnmike]
#21710198 - 05/22/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Morels are notoriously difficult to cultivate indoors. Look to begin elsewhere
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Yukon Cornelius
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Re: For science! [Re: Ghatti]
#21710219 - 05/22/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ghatti said: Morels are notoriously difficult to cultivate indoors. Look to begin elsewhere

The path you are on will only lead to frustration and failure, baby steps first.
Get a hang of growing oysters or reishi before moving on to more ambitious exotic cultivation.
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mtnmike
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I appreciate your input, and god knows I grew up well before the "youtube video information age" so I'm very skeptical about what I see on there. However, a particular video I watched by a permaculture farmer in an urban setting found the video! gave me all the confidence I needed to attempt the endeavor.
Today while I was working I was listening to a podcast with the guest being a guy from "Radical Mycology". It was very interesting, encouraging, and engaging. Starting with cellulose acetate (cigarette butts) that weren't used, they "taught" a species of mushroom to digest the cellulose acetate, which after a few generations of mycelium growth, evolved it to digest used cigarette butts.
To me that was truly amazing, and a feat I someday hope to accomplish myself.
Edited by mtnmike (05/22/15 02:27 PM)
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36fuckin5
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Yukon Cornelius said:
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Ghatti said: Morels are notoriously difficult to cultivate indoors. Look to begin elsewhere

The path you are on will only lead to frustration and failure, baby steps first.
Get a hang of growing oysters or reishi before moving on to more ambitious exotic cultivation.

I've been at it for damn near 12 years now and I wouldn't bother with Morels. Everyone says indoor morels don't taste good anyway. There's a reason they're not mass-produced and it's not lack of demand.
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stevo

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#21719780 - 05/25/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta 
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Re: For science! [Re: stevo]
#21729016 - 05/27/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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the entire morel mushroom economy relies on foraged mushrooms, not cultivated ones. if you can outsmart 1000's of mycologists that have been at this longer than you have then fuck, you're on the fast track to be the next millionaire.
outdoor cultivation can work but you're at the mercy of the seasons, temperature, and luck.
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Lennybernadino
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outdoor natural cultivation is where it is at for the bieginener, indoor cultivation is extremely difficult, follow the steps of that guy in the urban farming video.
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drake89
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bodhisatta said: the entire morel mushroom economy relies on foraged mushrooms, not cultivated ones. if you can outsmart 1000's of mycologists that have been at this longer than you have then fuck, you're on the fast track to be the next millionaire.
outdoor cultivation can work but you're at the mercy of the seasons, temperature, and luck.
not necessarily, there have been several different morel farms that have come and gone in the last couple decades. Just because they are valuable doesnt make them profitable. There was a farm in alabama that folded and they were cranking out 10 tons a month! pretty small scale for a mushroom farm but still...
last i heard dominos owns the patent from the above mentioned farm and they are sitting on it.
for a while, a couple years ago, you could get morels year round in whole-foods. I believe they came from a farm (morel mountain?) associated with the university of michigan.
but they are the landscaping morels that aren't given much culinary credence. which is why they can grow them- they aren't necessarily mycorhizal.
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micro
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Re: For science! [Re: drake89]
#22469212 - 11/03/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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drake89 said: last i heard dominos owns the patent from the above mentioned farm and they are sitting on it.
Dominoe's? Really xD
Is that the patent that used sclerotia to fruit?
If so you can still find it and grow them that way, just technically not for a profit.
(If it were small scale I doubt anyone would ask.)
It's on mushroompeople.com
The person who made the patent I believe had the farm go under because of some pathogen.
It has also been successfully grown on charred alder wood chips.
I'm going to try this in a bit myself, once I have the time.
I'm wondering if guaiacol has anything to do with the latter.
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