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fungusanthrax
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Can Areca/Betel nut work as a substrate for mushroom?
#21707898 - 05/21/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm playing around with learning to grow mushrooms and I came upon a possible idea. Can betel nut be used as the food source for mycelium?
I've looked around and haven't found much on this topic. In theory it should work. The result...abomination :o
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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Re: Can Areca/Betel nut work as a substrate for mushroom? [Re: fungusanthrax]
#21708324 - 05/21/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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if whatever the hells in betel nuts doesn't have any anti-fungal/microbial properties, then yeah, should work 
are betel nuts cheap?
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Re: Can Areca/Betel nut work as a substrate for mushroom? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco] 1
#21708440 - 05/21/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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did some quick googling on this.
While it may work I think the hardest part of the process is going to be hydrating the dry nut. Even long boiling may prove difficult.
Smaller grains have the advantage of giving you hundreds if not thousands of inoculation points in a substrate. Everything I've read about this nut so far just doesn't seem ideal.
I'll be the last person to discourage experimentation. However if you go down this path I advise you to approach it simply as a research project with no expectations.
However your growing experience is a little unclear so maybe you've already tried this with some success and you're just looking for pointers?
If you have no growing experience I highly reccomend doing a few grows with known methods. This will make experimentation much more relevent and give you a full understanding of the life cycle of mycelium.
Good luck for sure though.
If your idea is to pass the psychoactive properties of the Nut on to the mushrooms then I don't think that's really reasonable. But I've been so fucking wrong so many times I don't know what to believe anymore.
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fungusanthrax
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Re: Can Areca/Betel nut work as a substrate for mushroom? [Re: elasticaltiger]
#21708888 - 05/22/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
if whatever the hells in betel nuts doesn't have any anti-fungal/microbial properties, then yeah, should work 
are betel nuts cheap?
not cheap
Quote:
elasticaltiger said: did some quick googling on this.
While it may work I think the hardest part of the process is going to be hydrating the dry nut. Even long boiling may prove difficult.
Smaller grains have the advantage of giving you hundreds if not thousands of inoculation points in a substrate. Everything I've read about this nut so far just doesn't seem ideal.
I'll be the last person to discourage experimentation. However if you go down this path I advise you to approach it simply as a research project with no expectations.
However your growing experience is a little unclear so maybe you've already tried this with some success and you're just looking for pointers?
If you have no growing experience I highly reccomend doing a few grows with known methods. This will make experimentation much more relevent and give you a full understanding of the life cycle of mycelium.
Good luck for sure though.
If your idea is to pass the psychoactive properties of the Nut on to the mushrooms then I don't think that's really reasonable. But I've been so fucking wrong so many times I don't know what to believe anymore.
I'm not sure if it will be hard to hydrate the nut. It becomes hydrated after about 10 days whelmed in water. The water should be changed regularly (at least once a day... or else) And by hydrated I mean able to cut. Boiling might work perhaps speed up the process, but I have no clue what cooking the nut would do to its properties.
The idea is just for fun
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Re: Can Areca/Betel nut work as a substrate for mushroom? [Re: fungusanthrax]
#21708916 - 05/22/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't recommend it. Nuts are high in oils, which I believe can inhibit growth, which in turn invites contams.
On the other hand... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6192398
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