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Trichome_Delta9


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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Adden]
#21711638 - 05/22/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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kratom can cause depressed/low feeling a day or so after use i know from experience. i believe all drugs do that really. don't take drugs for depression its not a crutch its a damn wheel chair.
im a hypocrite btw.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
#21711664 - 05/22/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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As I said earlier in this thread that is why I don't think people should take Kratom as "a drug".
I take it daily sometimes but not to get fucked up or catch a buzz, it helps me relax and be more productive on top of making me not feel the need to smoke as much.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: musiclover420]
#21711682 - 05/22/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i did kratom for a week or two straight once and it was only to get a buzz and be paralyzed.
near the end of it all i got bad hiccups from kratom and smoking weed also experienced numbness in my limbs.
also i feel like kratom enhances weed ALOT like if you have a tolerance to weed and your looking for that good high again take kratom then smoke that gets me there.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
#21712142 - 05/22/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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To the OP comment on the parents being bad did you read the story? The kid loved his parents and the parents his child. He wanted help with addiction they tried to get, but couldn't find due to lack of information thanks to the censorship of the drug war. In the end he sadly choose to end himself leaving a note that he loved his parents and it was his fault getting addicted to the drug that led to it? Seriously situations as fucked up as your comment.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: tacodude]
#21712228 - 05/22/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did read that part but that doesn't mean there wasn't tension that could have played a role.
If I offed myself I certainly wouldn't leave a not blaming it on my family, even if I felt they played a role in my depression...
Clearly there was a reason he was depressed in the first place and became addicted to drugs due to some issues he was having.
I don't see how my comment is fucked up at all, generally with articles like this there is almost always more to the story...
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: musiclover420]
#21712241 - 05/22/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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We have no idea what that kids situation was or his life experiences were to judge him on why he committed suicide. I'm sure there were a hell of a lot more factors then just kratom. There is rarely a single factor for why people decide to take out that snub nosed .38 they've been hiding in their closet and finally have the courage to get the monkey off their back.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21713176 - 05/23/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is such poor journalism. Reminds me of the articles you see about the dangers of "flakka" "spice" or "bath salts". I can't believe this bullshit passes for news. Hopefully enough people are smart enough to see past the lies that kratom doesn't get banned but who knows at this point.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#21713316 - 05/23/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cognitive_Shift said: "I ruined my life with kratom" what a fucking pussy.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: hex_enduction]
#21713544 - 05/23/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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hex_enduction said: Hopefully enough people are smart enough to see past the lies
Sometimes that right there has me worried when I stop and take a look around..
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Amanita86] 1
#21713596 - 05/23/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean, I love my parents and they love me. Doesn't mean they didn't almost completely ruin my life with their absolutely asinine parenting
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21713672 - 05/23/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: I mean, I love my parents and they love me. Doesn't mean they didn't almost completely ruin my life with their absolutely asinine parenting
Dead on!
its the generations before us started to get more careless about their children and started to think only of themselves. just being honest....
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
#21713842 - 05/23/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well now everyone, I have some good news. I just got an e-mail from my father with this very article attached to it, asking me if I knew what this was..
Propaganda's dropping a hell of a bomb on ole' Mitragyna speciosa.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Amanita86]
#21714226 - 05/23/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was worried this shit would start getting worse.
Watch them keep pumping out for awhile then try to pass more bans
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: musiclover420]
#21714325 - 05/23/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh well, I suppose this kind of reaction is inevitable with how popular kratom is getting lately and considering the historical patterns of new drugs' integration into our society. I would just hate to see kratom undergo the same bullshit cycle of prohibition and eventual acceptance as marijuana.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Amanita86]
#21714379 - 05/23/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Amanita86 said: Well now everyone, I have some good news. I just got an e-mail from my father with this very article attached to it, asking me if I knew what this was..
Propaganda's dropping a hell of a bomb on ole' Mitragyna speciosa.
yeah I've been seeing tons of these bogus kratom articles in the past six months
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21714594 - 05/23/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like Kraik Madness is in full swing. I'll start really worrying when states start actually passing legislation; I'm honestly surprised it's taking so long.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: hex_enduction]
#21714635 - 05/23/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's already four that have banned it if I read right, and others trying as we speak.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Amanita86]
#21714639 - 05/23/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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is texas or Michigan trying to ban it do you know? im stockin up on that shit for sure.
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Amanita86]
#21714640 - 05/23/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: What's Kratom? Parents Claim the Drug Drove Son to Suicide [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
#21714749 - 05/23/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Trichome_Delta9 said: is texas or Michigan trying to ban it do you know? im stockin up on that shit for sure.
I'm not sure. I want to say Florida, and somewhere up on the northeast like New Jersey or somewhere around there. I see petitions around but cant recall 100% right now. You might try a 'kratom petition' search and see what you come up with.
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