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trentallica
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Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops
#21706920 - 05/21/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I know....why can't everybody have such problems. So this is the story as I know it. Some dude placed freshly cased Peru in the same green house as established penis envy. The Peru took a while to come in and not mush was though about it. He says sometimes you get a slow one or two. A large number of them had little mushrooms growing on the cap of another mushroom. Again not really unheard of and somethimes you get a batch heavy pron to mutation. Not much thought went into it. Perus pinned and came in, set was thin, but fruite was dance and still actually weighed well. Several oz worth were passed among his personal friends. Then came the day he wanted to have some himself. As they were for himself and he was planing on making a fresh tea he paid a little closer attention to the individual fruits and really noticed that a lot of them had the penis envy cheater of a bunched up stem just under the cap. He thought that was odd. Peru have never done that before. Then he looked really close. Some looked like Peru, some like penis envy , some looked like a mix, and yet some looked like 2 different mushrooms melded together in one mushroom. Some even looked to have a 2nd stem inside the outter stem leading up to the tiny mushroom growing in the cap of the mushroom. They it occurs to him that over the last few days he had heard a few examples of some rather potent trips from people who ate what they thought were just Peru. He thought they just had a good time. Turns out they had a really good time.
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Edited by trentallica (05/21/15 03:54 PM)
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GreenRabbit
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21707010 - 05/21/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your explanation does not say how two strains were crossed. Are you sure they are not just mutants of 1 strain? PE is just a mutation after all...
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21707030 - 05/21/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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trentallica
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21707036 - 05/21/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure in the least actually. I have absolutely no documentation or test results. Just an educated guess based on observations isolated to this event
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21707039 - 05/21/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Told ya...
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trentallica
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21707062 - 05/21/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was not presenting this as a trek or advertised pe hybrid or to show off my mastery of the cube. Just adding to the ever growing " hey that is kind of cool" category. Just something to say you read one time about a guy who sounded like he accidentally crossed, or melded pe with some Peru one time. And from what I have read even before this happened it's not at all impossible for 2 strains of cube growing in the same greenhouse to to play well together and even hybrid. What I do know is that I have several years experience with interesting mutations and enjoy them much. Many times I have had a single casing pop up a few of the same mutation, but I have never seen 10 casings all have such a high level of a few mutations. I have ate pe and I have are Peru. These mutated Peru were the strongest franking Peru I have ever seen in my life. 4 gram was not for lightweights. No. I don't "know" they were influenced by pe genetics, but to try to say argue against it would just make you look like an asshole
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21707280 - 05/21/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My Oakridge did that. Their potency caught me off guard a lot for a regular cube. I shoulda cloned.

Sometimes you get some potent mutants.
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: Grey]
#21709189 - 05/22/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Interesting. I'm looking forward to spawning 3 or 4 fully colonized jars to sub with different varieties of cubes in each jar to see what will happen.
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trentallica
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: ShroominMe]
#21709546 - 05/22/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ShroominMe said: Interesting. I'm looking forward to spawning 3 or 4 fully colonized jars to sub with different varieties of cubes in each jar to see what will happen.
and why the hell not ?? i vote do it.... actually it would be very interesting. if you had 3 strains that played well with each other and you had an lc with a blnd of each strain the fruits of such experiment would never be the same. some woild be juat A, or, B, or C or any combination or 2 or all 3. i would also suspect that 2nd and 3rd flushes would even have different combinations. you would never take the same blend twice.
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trentallica
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21709554 - 05/22/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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thank you gray. i knew he was not the only one and yes i hear their potency caught several people off guard.
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21709597 - 05/22/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Typically with a successful cross of cubes where at least one displays a reccessive trait, that reccessive is not going to be apparent until the second generation at best. Based off your account its sounds pretty unlikely that you have a real cross. I could be wrong of course but given PEs lack of ability to drop spores I highly doubt a classic cube grow would have much chance of being cross contaminated with PE simply by being in the same fruiting space. The whole thing sounds pretty improbable.
Edited by Pastywhyte (05/22/15 09:04 AM)
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trentallica
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21709821 - 05/22/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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im fully aware that a "hybrid" comes when the mated fruits drop spores and those spores actually produce fruit with cross genitics. i at no point clame to have cross breed. only crossed them. the similarities to pe are to strong and consistent to be dismissed.
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21709866 - 05/22/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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its just a coincidence.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Accidentally crossed pe with Peru..... Oops [Re: trentallica]
#21710021 - 05/22/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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trentallica said: im fully aware that a "hybrid" comes when the mated fruits drop spores and those spores actually produce fruit with cross genitics. i at no point clame to have cross breed. only crossed them. the similarities to pe are to strong and consistent to be dismissed.

That was so incoherent that my only advice is for you to stop talking while you only look misinformed.
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purposely crossed Cam and PE [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21766026 - 06/05/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP cross just look like some mutants. I've had similar from too much or too little RH. I only had half the spawn of both for some left over sub, so I just threw the 1qt Cam spawn and 1qt PE spawn together into the bus tray. I'm eager to see the results, some will cross but I won't know which ones are. In a small tray I did something similar but from two contaminated spawn jars, with contam washed and cut away. I now have some massive fruits from the small tray. Not trying to cross the strains thats just how it ended up.
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