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Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs
    #21706659 - 05/21/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not sure if the average users here are old enough for a BPH (enlarged prostate) question but, if anyone here has experience with this I'd appreciate input. This question is for guys about difficulty urinating with or without BPH while taking psychedelics.

I've started having symptoms of an enlarged prostate recently (peeing frequently but peeing is hard to do and I feel like my bladder is full).  The times that it became first evident where when I was taking LSD.  On a few trips of about 100ug I had a problem where I couldn't pee until the peak was over.  It was uncomfortable because it felt like I needed to pee after riding the in the car all day and it was scary to me since I was tripping and almost needed to get help.  It has happened a few times.... I take LSD, need to pee, can feel that my bladder is full, but I can't pee until I come down.

I even tried taking a microdose of approx 15ug to see if what people say about microdoses is true, and I ended up needing to go see a doctor again the next morning because I could hardly pee all night.  I only tried this once, so I'm not sure if this is repetitious.

This might be a personal question, but does anyone else here have difficulty urinating during trips, and if so do you have any known prostate issues?  I get nervous enough taking a hit of acid already, I don't need to worry that my bladder will get extended and that I might need to get help.


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: flowersprout]
    #21706826 - 05/21/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm pretty young, and don't have any prostate problems, but I can see how LSD can exasperate any current problems with urination. I've done LSD 2 times, and both times it was pretty hard to urinate during the peak. LSD gives me some vasoconstriction aswell. They're probably hand in hand.

If you smoke weed, it could possibly help during the comedown. Marijuana is a vasodilator and could help you urinate better due to increased blood flow. Or maybe try and take mushrooms instead of LSD. Mushrooms have shown me no problems to urinate, maybe even increasing it so. I actually will pee 2-3 times in a mushroom trip usually.

I hope you find a solution.


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: flowersprout]
    #21706831 - 05/21/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I dont eat or drink the day I trip...and eat and drink very little amounts the day before if im able to plan for it. If you dont put anything in to expell out you can probly create a good window of time to trip in where it wont affect you so negatively...

Being stoped up for to long isnt great..........if its worse when you trip try to avoid ingesting fluids before the trip.... I personaly have a hard time peeing when I trip anyways....im just so stimulated I cant bring myself to do it. Its odd. Then again I have a hard time pissing not tripping also.....pffft....when the two evils combine its pritty bad. I get worried because it hurts enough for me to assume damage is being done....limiting my intake of fluids prior to anything I dont want to be tainted by this problem helps alot....id assume it could fix that aspect of it for you...

I forgot whats its called but basicly theres times I realy gota pee and cant...and theres times I leak when i dont feel like i gota go....wich is sorta embarrassing. It wasnt prostate related though and they said it will always be like that...and I can take meds. I dont take meds though....ive just goten used to peeing more....and just waiting till im able to pee and keep attempting to....its a battle sometimes.  Im only 25....my urologist said its pritty uncommon for someone my age to have this sort of problem....but idk...it was called incontinence or someshit and overactive bladder...idk. it sucks ass to have though.

Just tossin my 2 cents in here.

You sbould get it checked out...get to a urologist.


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: quazerjunkie420]
    #21709479 - 05/22/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the input, guys!

Achillita, thanks for suggesting the mushroom idea.  I was wondering if I'd have an easier time peeing on them and now I feel more confident trying it.  At the least, I assume the experience would be shorter.  I'm sure I'll be trying that soon, but I need to wait a bit for things to die down because I was sent to the ER by my doctor office yesterday over this (it wasn't an emergency, the doc was being a ass) - about 24 hours after my microdose.

Quazarjunkie, Thanks for your honest descriptions and input.  Kind of helps me confirm that difficult urination issues maybe magnified by tripping. I have some sympathy & empathy for the leakage because I'm having just a tiny bit of that.  I've also been limiting intake of food and fluid before a trip, and can empathize with feeling filled and like damage is being done.  On a trip a few months ago I drank a ridiculous amount of tea and it way uncomfortable.  I do have an appointment for the urologist, I just wish he was a psychedelic urologist. :laugh:


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: flowersprout]
    #21712245 - 05/22/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hey there, i myself don't know if i have prostate issues, but i think i might. I've had issues peeing before and at first i thought it was just anxiety, but here recently my issue has been pretty bad, i'm thinking partially because i don't drink enough fluids. When my issue flared up here recently, i thought it was possibly due to a UTI, but tests came back negative for that. So i've just been trying to make sure i drink enough liquid, also sometimes i'll have to take a crap and i feel that relieves pressure from my prostate and i'm able to pee easier.

Anyways, i've tried 25D-Nbome and LSD a couple times, both of them made it more difficult than usual to pee, and also gave me some weird bladder pain. But with Ayahuasca, which i use fairly often, it has given me no issues peeing and no bladder pain, i seem to be able to pee pretty well on it as long as i'm hydrated.

But yeah, i'm 25 and this whole not being able to pee well thing has gotten pretty frustrating, but i'm doing what i can.


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: Sabnock]
    #21715000 - 05/23/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Don't fuck around with your prostate bro. Try saw palmetto for a month, if you still have issues go see a doc. I know you're young, but that don't mean shit in my book.


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: HaveABeer420]
    #21717277 - 05/24/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've had an improvement as I appear to be responding to antibiotics, so I'm very encouraged and looking forward to tripping again before long.  Aside from the help I've gotten in this thread I've read in a couple other places of people having increasing urination difficulty on LSD (and MDMA).

Sabnock, I also tested negative for UTI and STIs, but am responding to antibiotics which suggests that the infection is inside my prostate and unable to be detected in urine (I also did a white blood cell count test, and the docs said it didn't indicate infection although I seem to have one).  So... If you have problems I really suggest asking a urologist about bacterial prostatitis.  Though it may just be enlarged prostate (50% of men of 40 shows symptoms already).  I agree with fully with HaveABeer420's sentiment though, "don't fuck with your prostate"... being in the ER unable to pee and reading about prostate issues tells me he's right (and I'm taking Saw Palmetto too just in case).


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: flowersprout]
    #21717362 - 05/24/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Tripping makes me piss pretty regular.

Like the waves of tripping are connected with me pissing. I always wonder whether I piss before or after a new wave hit. I guess its actually both

Taking lots of MDMA really blocks my pissing ability sometimes


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: flowersprout]
    #21717495 - 05/24/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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flowersprout said:Sabnock, I also tested negative for UTI and STIs, but am responding to antibiotics which suggests that the infection is inside my prostate and unable to be detected in urine (I also did a white blood cell count test, and the docs said it didn't indicate infection although I seem to have one).  So... If you have problems I really suggest asking a urologist about bacterial prostatitis.  Though it may just be enlarged prostate (50% of men of 40 shows symptoms already).  I agree with fully with HaveABeer420's sentiment though, "don't fuck with your prostate"... being in the ER unable to pee and reading about prostate issues tells me he's right (and I'm taking Saw Palmetto too just in case).




Yeah, i hear ya. Speaking of which, last year i noticed a burning sensation when i peed once, and about a week or two later i had gotten strep throat so i took two courses of Azithromycin and something weird happened, i noticed that i was able to pee more easily but then i started having to piss like crazy (though i was also drinking a good bit of coffee around that time) and then after that, i noticed it got more difficult for me to pee, and it's been that way for the last few months. For a bit there it seemed like i was only peeing a little bit at a time, but since i've increased my fluid intake it's been a bit better, but i'm still having some issues no doubt. I keep thinking maybe i'm just dehydrated because i haven't really felt all that thirsty these last few months and it's been kinda difficult to keep myself hydrated, but i've been trying and doing what i can.

I do think i need to go see a doc just in case, but i just haven't felt like going. So would i have to go see a proctologist? or urologist? Plus i feel kinda weird about having a prostate exam, ya know.... lol.


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: Sabnock]
    #21719594 - 05/25/15 03:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Take finasteride, it actually improves bph and weirdly it can stop you from going bald, because it stops formation of DHT which is a certain male hormone, this hormone both enlarges your prostate and it in fact causes your hair follicles on the top of your head to get smaller over time. If not for finasteride I'd have a shiny bald dome by now at the ripe age of 24


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Re: Pee question for guys with BPH (enlarged prostate) who take LSD or psychs [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #21729206 - 05/27/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

After a scan the urologist said I do have an enlarged prostate, that antibiotics only appeared to help because I also did dietary changes at the same time.

So, why that still leaves me wondering why an enlarged prostate would be worse while I'm on LSD.  If it wasn't for caffeine and LSD I wouldn't have found out about this problem. Some people suggest vasoconstriction but I'm not so sure.


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