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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Almond Flour]
#21709733 - 05/22/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Another girl was a roommate. She was 25 years old and had just moved to my location with her husband, they were stoners, but she suddenly started going crazy as soon as they moved. While pot may riddle the question, in reality I think the stress and strangeness from being in a forign part of the country with a very different culture set it off.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
#21709735 - 05/22/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Meditation can be extremely grounding though..?
Yes it can be. But you can't expect someone to do it right without practice, especially not in a state like OP's friend. Thorough guidance would be needed. People sometimes develop psychotic symptoms on meditation retreats. A common cause of action is to have them seize all meditative practices and get them grounded. Have them work in the garden, eat heavy foods and give them more sleep. Only when they are more stable, they may continue their meditative practices.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21710582 - 05/22/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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whatever guys, im not saying the dude shouldnt be treated, its just when you look at the type of delusions people have it seems to follow the same pathways of thought.
I doubt anything coherent is happening to your friend and mostly just negative stuff is going on and should be treated, but all im saying is schizophrenia seems to show interesting thought patterns in people who are more conscious and knowledgeable i guess you could say.
no need to get all worked up. Quote:
akira_akuma said: if he isn't able to be taken care of, then of course. we're having a discussion here, not a rally.
dont want to get too excited, you'll turn schizo
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21710740 - 05/22/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sometimes I wonder if my inner monologue and thoughts in my head is really my thoughts and my voice.
Because I always "hear" my thoughts you know?
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
#21710748 - 05/22/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Sometimes I wonder if my inner monologue and thoughts in my head is really my thoughts and my voice.
Because I always "hear" my thoughts you know?
yeah, i think everyone has that. at least i hope so, cause im always talking in my head
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Adolin] 1
#21710762 - 05/22/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Even when I read shit you write, my inner voice "says" it.
But how come, when I read this :

It's not "my inner voice" . Now it's professor farnsworth's voice.
Brains are fucking weird man.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: GoldenEye]
#21710833 - 05/22/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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GoldenEye said:
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Shroomopotamus said: he just needs some time to chill and enjoy some weed
Great advice man. Fuck, you must be proud of yourself. 
I don't mind how people share different approaches and views on the subject. But fuck, this is about a real concern for a real friend of a real member! Some of you are just being completely insensitive and rude.
you don't know shit
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haha pota ur gonna go crazy some day
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: GoldenEye]
#21714049 - 05/23/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So my friend is slowly getting better, he had a few good nights sleep and even though he still sounds a bit "far out", the delusions have stopped and he is getting better every day. Thanks for the help Shroomery, means a lot It wasn't easy to see a good friend completely out of his mind.
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GoldenEye said:
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Psychonautica said: Meditation can be extremely grounding though..?
Yes it can be. But you can't expect someone to do it right without practice, especially not in a state like OP's friend. Thorough guidance would be needed. People sometimes develop psychotic symptoms on meditation retreats. A common cause of action is to have them seize all meditative practices and get them grounded. Have them work in the garden, eat heavy foods and give them more sleep. Only when they are more stable, they may continue their meditative practices.
Completely agree with GoldenEye here. Meditation can be a very useful tool for a grounded mind, but can do terrible things to a sick one. You need a strong mental "foundation" to meditate, ask any psychiatrist (whatever your opinion of them is), they'll tell you meditation is out of the question for any schizophrenic/psychotic patient, at least during an episode.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Constantine]
#21714129 - 05/23/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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is your friend articulate at all? can he explain what exactly was going through is mind at the time?
and yeah i guess that meditation advice makes sense, sort of a non grounding thing because people report changes in perception from meditation alone
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21732440 - 05/28/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My friend is doing better now. I can't even begin to explain how grateful I feel. I could not even describe how I felt to see a dear friend go through this. I met up with him a day after his trip, he was completely paranoid and kept pointing at people saying they were following him. Really tough experience for me to see a loved one act like this.
Thank you guys for being here, thank you all for your advice. Thankfully he's doing better, and it's kind of a miracle. Please, if anyone reads this in the future, and if you are in that situation and it doesn't getter after a few nights of sleep (in his case it did), do bring him to a doctor. This is no joke. It was terrifying for me to see a good friend completely wide-eyed, hallucinating about random people following him. He is my best friend and seeing like that completely fucked me up for a few days. I felt so bad I had to sleep for 15/16 hours a day to escape what was happening.
Please : Do take this seriously. Talking to him/her isn't enough. When someone has a psychotic break, talking him/her down isn't enough. It's serious stuff and if medical help if needed, don't hesitate.
Much love Shroomery
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Constantine]
#21732656 - 05/28/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I suggest he stays away from psychs for awhile, probably weed too but its hard to tell people that.
Next time he trips, he should be coming from a totally different headspace.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Constantine]
#21732789 - 05/28/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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u should have helped him DURING the trip.....
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: HolliDaze]
#21732794 - 05/28/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did try to help him. He was completely incoherent and there was nothing I could do..
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Constantine]
#21733247 - 05/28/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Constantine said: So my friend is slowly getting better, he had a few good nights sleep and even though he still sounds a bit "far out", the delusions have stopped and he is getting better every day. Thanks for the help Shroomery
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GoldenEye said:
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Shroomopotamus said: he just needs some time to chill and enjoy some weed
Great advice man. Fuck, you must be proud of yourself. 
I don't mind how people share different approaches and views on the subject. But fuck, this is about a real concern for a real friend of a real member! Some of you are just being completely insensitive and rude.
fuckin' dipshit, look who was right you prick
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hahaha what the fuck potamus ur nuts bro
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It definitely wasn't you... You said he needed to chill and smoke some weed.. what he needed was a few good nights rest.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
#21733277 - 05/28/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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what the fuck is the difference?
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What's the difference between smoking weed and getting a good nights sleep?
 You're right. Nothing at all.
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