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akira_akuma
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if he isn't able to be taken care of, then of course. we're having a discussion here, not a rally.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: akira_akuma]
#21708487 - 05/21/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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he just needs some time to chill and enjoy some weed
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yeah like if someone becomes violent then yeah, but if its mild doctors could do more harm than good,
and hippie bullshit is a statement of ignorance.
Its dangerous to think alternative therapy is never necessary and you have to go to a doctor for everything that goes "wrong"
enough people have healed from this experience naturally.
Drugs are not the only method but whatever its easy i guess.
id never go for that shit though
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21708515 - 05/21/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Have you ever actually had a friend have an authentic psychotic break? I assure you, "chilling and smoking some weed" is not an effective solution.
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SleepyE said: dude, you're talking to me like you think i've never gone through psychosis.
well i did big time, but you know what some really messed up synchronicities and delusions actually pointed me in the direction of something meaningful and coherent and logical..
yes there was dangerous delusions INCLUDING a confused suicide attempt(not for a sinister reason, i just thought i was in a dream and that was the only way to wake up) but thats just the dangers of the transition.
im fine now. Although i have a lot of questions that need answering because people in my actual life were validating some of my thoughts and opinions.
We know that synchronicity and coincidence becomes completely UNREALISTIC.
experiencing this stuff first hand will cause almost ANY "strong" rational mind to find connections and get lost in it.
We are faced with 2 possibilities. Either we are hallucinating that everything is connected and synchronized in some way, or everything IS connected in some way and psychosis makes us aware of this.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
#21708528 - 05/21/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Being pre dispositioned to psychosis does not equal causing psychosis.
No psychedelics have ever nor will ever cause psychosis.
I disagree. Give your most grounded man a strong ass psychedelic, in a strong dose in a chaotic environment and anyone can crack.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21708534 - 05/21/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i never said smoke weed, he needs to stabilize himself, which means completely sobriety.
if you cant handle the fire get out of the madness kitchen.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Almond Flour]
#21708549 - 05/21/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Almond Flour said:
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Psychonautica said: Being pre dispositioned to psychosis does not equal causing psychosis.
No psychedelics have ever nor will ever cause psychosis.
I disagree. Give your most grounded man a strong ass psychedelic, in a strong dose in a chaotic environment and anyone can crack.
You also believe an invisible man is going to make you suffer in eternal hellfire for masturbating.
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SleepyE
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almost everyone who looks at schizophrenia unfortunately sees meaningless patterns in meaningful noise.
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Edited by SleepyE (05/21/15 11:36 PM)
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Constantine]
#21708627 - 05/21/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck it, tell ur friend not to fear, those people watching him don't really want to hurt him, and if they do tell him to whoop they ass.
Seriously tho, fuck those fuckers.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: zZZz]
#21708639 - 05/21/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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fear is the mind killer 
nobodies got a handle on fear so they get lost in the extra sense.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21708813 - 05/22/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: have you guy ever noticed psychosis and psychedelics can be compared quite accurately to entropy?


"When a person goes mad, a profound transposition of his position in relation to all domains of being occurs. His center of experience moves from ego to Self. Mundane time becomes merely anecdotal, only the Eternal matters. The madman is, however, confused. He muddles ego with self, inner with outer, natural and supernatural. Nevertheless, he often can be to us, even through his profound wretchedness and disintegration, the hierophant of the sacred. An exile from the scene of being as we know it, he is an alien, a stranger, signalling to us from the void in which he is foundering. This void may be peopled by presences that we do not even dream of. They used to be called demons and spirits, that were known and named. He has lost his sense of self, his feelings, his place in the world as we know it. He tells us he is dead. But we are distracted from our cozy security by this mad ghost that haunts us with his visions and voices that seem so senseless and of which we feel impelled to rid him, cleanse him, cure him." - R. D. Laing
schizophrenia is a gas state, therefore you are a ghost 
i see dead people.
Maybe I'm crazy too but i think you're making a lot of sense metaphorically.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Everything]
#21708835 - 05/22/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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THANK YOU, jesus everyone else is blind. 
except akira
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21708858 - 05/22/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay so laying down your theory solids are people in the current state of reality they react with things but its very obvious and the reactions are physical just as in science.
Liquids are people in a transitional state. This could be the hallucinogenic state, or a psychotic episode.
gases are people that have been excited, either by psychotic episode/enlightenment/madness whatever you want to call this state of "agonism" where all your atoms and whatnot are flailing around madly. The reactions from gases are violent sometimes thought unforeseen initially. Say for example propane gas from your stove leaking into your kitchen and causing an explosion.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Everything]
#21708872 - 05/22/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i like that 
these comparisons were my insight, psychosis made me realize the existence of unified field theory and im finding physics is metaphorically proportional to even the human condition.
everyone thinks that you see more coincidenses and synchronicities because your pattern recognition goes up due to higher levels of dopamine when you take psychedelics making you connect the dots even to things that have no connection. This would be the chaos and disorder
doing that consistently is called schizophrenia, where you see meaning in everything and tv shows and music and messages of facebook begin to feel like its talking directly to you.
It went this far for me and still is, i never experienced constant unrealistic synchronicities that are almost connected like a chain reaction before my psychosis now it wont stop.
And when i say unrealistic synchronicities i mean to the point where ive used it to find out things i didnt know about people that i couldnt possibly know. And just the direction all the delusions and connections that happened are pointing to is something extremely coherent and ordered.
it seems like im experience a higher level of order in what most perceive as chaos.
DMT made me discover the unified field theory and i began making connections to everything based on a simple flower of life structure that voices in my head explained to me when i was in psychosis. I never have experienced voice before this and i never have after it, it was completely exotic for me.
hear is the first post i made when i went psychotic, later someone informed me what this thread meant and how it wasnt just complete chaos.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17864922/page/13
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SleepyE said:
"Any fool can make things bigger, more complex more violent. It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction." -Einstein
One psychosis quote i wrote
"Intelligence quotient tests are about determining your ability to recognize patterns in problems/or outside data. What if you were able to develop/recognize a single fundamental pattern that could be expressed in anything that exists, a pattern that can be seen in all things and information. Then in theory. The more you search to find this fundamental law in everything and succeed, the faster you will be at applying and recognizing the pattern. Would this be the potential for an exponentially growing infinite IQ?"
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Typerwritermonky said: we are pattern seekers, and you are seeking to understand the unified field theory (look this up please!) in your own conceptual, language of thought per say. Understanding it by truly experiencing it, that being infinity, and infinity being the unified field theory, is what you are trying to do. ------- If you want my opinion? Yes, the unified field theory exists, and we experience it and see it on psychedelics through the infinite fractal of realizing we are the infinite. We are the unified field theory in it's sum. When you reach nirvana, you realize the unified field theory, in your own language of concepts and thoughts, that of which you translate into English, or french, to speak to others. In your art you are trying to translate the language of thought and concept into another language we all speak. Is it possible? Yes, through the simplest diagrams, which we each must translate into our own respective language of thought and concepts, which is each respective to our own universes.
My psychosis with DMT made me a poster boy for Nassims Unified Field Theory and the "Thrive Movement"
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synned said: The new fractal holographic unified field theory and it's implications for spirituality
Hey guys.
So I'm going to try and give a writeup of how Nassim Harameins quantum gravity solution opens up a new dialogue for explaining the breakthrough experience of a psychedelic drug, as well as spirituality.
Nassim's solution is this. The planck unit in physics is the most fundamental we have for length and mass of the spacetime fabric. It is extremely tiny, but extremely massive. We have learned that temperature and energy moves in these fundamental integer lengths instead of analogue, due to Max Planck and then Einstein.
It's been impossible to extrapolate mass from this vacuum unit because of the enormous mass discrepency. The vacuum catastrophe
Nassim proves that the proton is holographic, a black hole in which the mass can be derived using the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle) solution (the surface area of a black hole can encode the volume information]generalized holographic principle[/url]
This is what it looks like when you treat the proton as a holographic black hole.
The total amount of planck unit masses that fit inside of the proton yields a mass of 10^55 grams. This is dubbed the 'holographic gravitational mass'. This is exactly what we would suspect if the proton is holographic, because this is the mass of all protons in the Universe, essentially 99.9% of the mass of matter.
We could yell coincidence, if it wasn't for the rest of the solutions that follow.
Dividing the surface planck units by the volume planck units yields the protons rest mass, of 10^-24 grams. Wolfram Alpha
This is the holographic principle, and applied here takes us from all protons masses to a single proton mass.
So yes, what this is saying is that the entirety of the Universe's information is omnipresent in each and every proton of each and every atom. Literally, this would imply we are not drops in the ocean, we are literally entire oceans in a drop, but with specific configurations of the entire ocean for each particular drop. This creates a clear mechanism for the illusion of physical reality on top of the universe's mass energy - as we are all simultaneous reader/writer's of this holographic mass, which updates at the planck time.
Each proton has a specific amount of plancks, or 'bits' that are active for that particular proton, recording the information of the environment around it electrodynamically. Each proton 'remembers' its configuration in the Universe due to the fundamental feedback loop of reading/writing the holographic mass - the torus dynamic.
Just to give you an idea of what this solution unifies in physics, before I go to the psychonautical claims:
]It solves quantum gravity (the strong nuclear force would be perfectly satisfied by this solution, e.g. we do not need quantum chromodynamics.)
It solves dark energy and the vacuum energy.
It solves spin.
Now to the good part, the implications psychonautically.
For one, Rupert Sheldrakes' morphic resonance is implicated. This means that there is an unseen, non-local evolution of form (not just biology), in which the patterns in the holographic mass or the patterns of matter in the Universe are recorded, and for new creation of form, it is easier to replicate the forms that work the best. This allows for stuff like Keplars platonic solar system model, the reason we see phi and sacred geometry in our solar system, etc. More info, including entanglement here
Along with this, if our neurons are specifically interacting with the holographic mass, using certain drugs or meditations may alter the read/write sectors that our atoms are usually focused on.
With DMT, I like to look at it as a molecular lense that distorts the torus flow of electrodynamics from a particular neurons holographic storage, to potentially the entire holographic mass. It essentially could de-focus or de-tune your consciousness from a single particular spot to a formless, pre-matter energetic fluctuations.
Along with this, stuff like meditations and chanting are given a whole new meaning in the lens of morphic resonance. If humanity has been imprinting certain feelings along with a visual and or audio brainwave, it may be easier to synchronize with this 'form' because it has been collectively trained in the collective holographic storage of humanity. here
This depiction is in the Kaballah, as well as the geometry of the tree of life actually forming the geometry of the vacuum that allows this PSU packing in the proton. The geometry is also exactly the Egyptian creation mythos.
here is a trailer for a brand new documentary by Malcom Carter. It has been the most funded documentary on indiegogo to date.
I just want to open a dialogue on this again, as it is extremely, extremely interesting to me.
http://reddit.com/r/holofractal for more.
The documentary Black Whole is an amazing place to start
edit: Also - forgot to mention -
the planck interference pattern - the holographic interference pattern of the cosmos - are overlapping planck spheres.
The first iteration of this geometry is the 64 tetrahedron matrix. This, not coincidentally, gives the structure that upholds the flower of life.
Here is a great image that depicts the different geometries that the vacuum is made of -
http://i.imgur.com/btQaGYo.png
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21708907 - 05/22/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Schizophrenics have a first break and it isn't uncommon for the breaks to be induced by psychoactive compounds.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: koods] 1
#21709146 - 05/22/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I get delusions if i dont trip
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: SleepyE]
#21709153 - 05/22/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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To SleepyE
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
#21709167 - 05/22/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i don't think its about expecting. You can read it though if you want.
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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Everything]
#21709172 - 05/22/15 05:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I make it very apparent that I cannot read, by my posts.
You don't go around telling a paraplegic he can walk if he wants to. Prick.
I'm sorry lol. I'm in one of those moods. Where I'm too high to be on the Internet.
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