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Psychosis after LSD (Help needed)
    #21706655 - 05/21/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So I took acid with a friend of mine two days ago. He had a terrible trip and was convinced everyone in the room was making fun of him. He left in the morning and went to work. I saw him a couple hours ago and he has completely lost touch with reality. He is convinced he's being followed everywhere he goes and kept pointing at random people on the street saying they were following him. He completely melted down at work and got fired.

He has no previous history of mental illnesses that I know of. I know this kind of situation usually gets better with time but I am a bit concerned. Should I wait a few days and see what happens or should I take him to a doc ASAP ?


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Constantine]
    #21706664 - 05/21/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've never experienced this with anyone before but you should maybe take him to a dr. before he hurts himself or someone else.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Sham87]
    #21706672 - 05/21/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ive experienced this myself

they are called deusions of reference and your friend needs help


i never would have stopped believing in that kind of shit without medicine and therapy. it lasted around 5 months, although the last 2 werent as bad as it was in the beginning. just my experience though


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Sham87]
    #21706673 - 05/21/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah sounds bad if he got fired because of it


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: twelvelookslikeu]
    #21706675 - 05/21/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: KnyggaPlease]
    #21706746 - 05/21/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It's already preventing him from living a normal life, so I'd say yes, get him some help.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21706760 - 05/21/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Take him to a doctor before het commits some kind of crime.

Be honest about the drugs


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21706763 - 05/21/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

if i didnt make it too clear in my first post, he probably needs immediate help if it is anything like what happened to me. and it sounds exactly like it


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #21706773 - 05/21/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks everyone, really appreciate the help, I'll take him to a doc as soon as possible then..


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Constantine]
    #21707029 - 05/21/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Good on you for being a solid bud man.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Adolin]
    #21707249 - 05/21/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've definitely experienced delusions of reference, i would even say i frequently experience them except i don't believe them but more so humor the thought :shrug:

I go through phases of tripping every weekend for a couple months. Took a break from psychedelics, all the delusional thoughts go away. Glad i have enough hold on reality to not believe the shit my brain thinks sometimes.

You should get your friend some valium or klonopin so he can chill out for at least a couple days. I actually think that would temporarily take away these thoughts as it always did for me. Maybe this is just a short term thing, but if it isn't obviously he is going to need to seek professional help from a therapist and/or doctor.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Everything]
    #21707933 - 05/21/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

if it lasts more than 24 hours, you should be very concerned.  There is some limited evidence, that early medication can help people suffering from psychotic breaks/delusional thinking avoid more problems in the future (during the first break).

I've seen people be fucked up for a good while and be ok, and I"ve also seen people not be ok.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: teamkiller]
    #21707941 - 05/21/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Any hallucinogen can cause psychosis.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: teamkiller]
    #21707945 - 05/21/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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if it lasts more than 24 hours, you should be very concerned.  There is some limited evidence, that early medication can help people suffering from psychotic breaks/delusional thinking avoid more problems in the future (during the first break).

I've seen people be fucked up for a good while and be ok, and I"ve also seen people not be ok.




agreed.

noone was concerned with me even though i had been awake for over 5 days. if someone had strapped me to a bed on day 3 and forced me to sleep with something, i probably wouldnt have spent 5 months feeling like i was watched and followed


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Adolin]
    #21707968 - 05/21/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

oh shit, i forgot to say, its VERY IMPORTANT that he sleep.  I'm convinced its the not sleeping after snapping that really gets people rewired bad.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: spixce]
    #21708002 - 05/21/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Any hallucinogen can cause psychosis.



Bullshit.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21708009 - 05/21/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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spixce said:
Any hallucinogen can cause psychosis.



Bullshit.



Not really it just depends on the person.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: spixce]
    #21708023 - 05/21/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Being pre dispositioned to psychosis does not equal causing psychosis.

No psychedelics have ever nor will ever cause psychosis.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21708047 - 05/21/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i think you mean shizophrenia, its like, a pretty established fact psychedelics cause psychosis.

even assuming you mean schizophrenia,since they don't know what causes it, couldn't that argument be applied to anything that we don't know the cause?

You got cancer cause predisposed.  You're poor cause predisposed, die young cause predisposed.

Saying psychedelics can't cause a thing that happens for unknown reasons seems pretty i dunno, cavalier.  Especially considering threads like this.


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Re: Psychosis after LSD (Help needed) [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21708076 - 05/21/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Being pre dispositioned to psychosis does not equal causing psychosis.

No psychedelics have ever nor will ever cause psychosis.





im not trying to be some kind of drugwar fearmonger, but that is bullshit

there are plenty of people whos psychedelic use triggered psychosis. it doesnt matter if they were predisposed or not, because it wouldnt have happened without the psychedelics

ive read enough of first hand accounts by shroomerites to know that


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