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Macaman
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BRF cakes that I'm not sure about
#21704007 - 05/20/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So, I'm not home and I've had a friend looking after my grow. The cakes have been worrying me. They were birthed early ( only two days after 100% colonizing) dunked them for 16 hrs then rolled them. That was on 5/7. They havnt pinned yet and I think that's due to over misting them. I asked my friend to not mist them for two days, but to continue fanning them as often as possible. This is what they look like now.

The growth at the top is what concerns me. And fyi. This is my first grow with BRF cakes.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21704020 - 05/20/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are dying for FAE. Looks like an odd design for a fruiting chamber. Could we get a better pic of the whole setup? Also fanning is not a replacement for FAE unless you fan 3 times a hour day and night. Fanning should only be done after misting.
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21704066 - 05/20/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good info. Thank you.
Yeah the set up is ghetto. I was trying for a double tub. One with water and a heater in it. Then one inside it with 2" of water and perlite ( with two air pumps pushing air to 2 , 12" bubble stones in the water) . Trays are sitting on a rack to keep them above the water/perlite. Then I drilled 30 or so 1/4" holes in the sides of the fruiting tub and 4 ,1 1/2" holes near the top of the tub. Drilled 40-50 1/4" holes in the lid of the tub.
So, yeah.... It's a joke and it will be replaced/ fixed once I return home. And I cant get better pics because I'm not there and my friend isn't around.  The room is very airtight and the door has been locked closed while Ive been on vacation. So lack of FAE would make perfect sense.
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21704076 - 05/20/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did pick up some polyfil and a fan while I was on vacation. I'll be building a proper tub once I get home and I'll be building a SAB and getting materials to do pasty plates
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Pastywhyte
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21704208 - 05/20/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cakes usually do best in a SGFC but I have top fruited them in jars in mini monos with fairly good results. Choose and build a proper fruiting chamber. I will warn you right now that anything involving airstones, foggers, fans will be very challenging to dial in. Fans work for bulk monotubs for some people but will be a disaster for cakes.
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21704577 - 05/20/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok. Thanks for the warning. I'm thinking I'm going to revamp the tub I'm using as a FC and make it into a SGFC and then build a new larger tub for doing a mono tub. I started this for personal use only but now I'm driven to grow a wall to wall flush. Which means..... Agar and isolation and a mono tub. It's not even that I want the fruits, I just want to be able to do it lol.
Such a perfectionist.... But I'm really enjoying the hobby. It's to bad that I don't really like mushrooms as a food source.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21704605 - 05/20/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You just haven't tried enough different kinds. Try hericium then tell me you don't like mushrooms as a food source.
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Apps
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21705163 - 05/21/15 03:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said: You just haven't tried enough different kinds. Try hericium then tell me you don't like mushrooms as a food source.
I grow all different kinds, but I either give them to family or take them to farmers markets because I really just don't like the taste of any mushies that aren't dried out and cause life changing experiences. Lions mane and bears head tooth though are unlike any other mushroom when cooked right. Definitely worth trying out.
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Apps]
#21705643 - 05/21/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Addmittadly, I havnt tried very many different types. AND there are some seriously cool looking mushies. Plus so many different ways to cultivate them.
AND If I do some edible ones then it will be easier to explain the others p
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21710501 - 05/22/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well got a crappy pic from my friend. But got a few tiny pins on one of the cakes.

Good news is that I'll be home today and by the end of the day, I'll have built a new spec SGFC.
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21723333 - 05/26/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Updated.
I got the SGFC built and moved the cakes into it. The old cakes that were in question only had one pin between all 4 cakes. I left for the long weekend and came home to see this

All the cakes have pins and are growing fruits now. But the bluish/ black on the tops of the cakes is freaking me out. I don't know if I should cut that part off or leave it and continue the fruiting or just toss them. I birthed and dunked 5 more cakes before going out camping and I'm worried about contaminating them if the old cakes are an issue.


I kept them on opposite side of the tub just incase.
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21723500 - 05/26/15 03:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are severely bruised. It could be from handling the cakes or they could be in desperate need of water.
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: insanemike]
#21723533 - 05/26/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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this could be way off base, but the bluing on top looks like the cakes kept putting their energy into growing and colonized the tops with fluffy myc due to a lack of FAE, then the transferring and drastic changes in environment caused a lot of stress, hence the drying out and bruising.
It looks like you're getting the hang of it and those new cakes will do much better.
maybe a more veteran grower will have some advice on what you can do to make those first cakes happier?
Just trying to help.
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Pastywhyte
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They are just super bruised from being in such horrible conditions before. Its doubtful they will make much of a recovery. The new cakes should do far better. Be sure to properly roll them in verm. I see verm on the tops but none on the sides.
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21723598 - 05/26/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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And there you go!
Now if only I could get someone like Pasty to take a gander at my "help me" posts....
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Macaman
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I gave them a good amount of water, but avoided misting the mushies directly. They seem to be doing semi ok. Some of the heavy blue bruising was about to fall off the tops when I sprayed them, so I cleaned that up and have tried to increase my fanning and have started to leave a window cracked open while I'm home( to help with FAE in the room). But it is still able to get cold around here so I don't leave it open all the time.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21726625 - 05/26/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mist the cakes directly, the fruits and sub need the water not the walls of the chamber. Never fan unless you mist first. Do not open windows, it will interfere with the room air currents and the chamber won't perform well. Also the outdoors is full of mold spores. Keep the spore load down and close the window.
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21726680 - 05/26/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Got it. I'm on it  Dam I'm glad I found this forum!
Window closed and will mist cake and fruits, then fan. I had been just trying to mist the cake only and avoiding getting water on the fruits. Atleast not on the pins. Thought that might cause them to abort?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21726687 - 05/26/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Misting pins will not cause aborts, they get rained on in nature. If your FAE is really poor they could abort when misted but you have them in a proper SGFC so there is lots of FAE for em
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21726709 - 05/26/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Makes sense when you put it that way. It's kind of hard to remember that these things DO IN FACT grow in nature, when your putting all this time, energy and equipment into trying to build a natural habitat for them to grow in. My bedroom looks like a science lab!
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21730061 - 05/27/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Update on cakes
Went a head and picked these ones. Just waiting on the rest. And fixed the vermiculite on the new cakes.

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insanemike

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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21730284 - 05/27/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: insanemike]
#21730391 - 05/27/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looking much better
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Macaman
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21743612 - 05/31/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well... Got some fruits from each of the bruised cakes. Not a lot, but I'm not complaining . Wish i would have written down what type they were though. I. Thinking they were PF classic. Havnt had a chance to try them yet though.

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Pastywhyte
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Re: BRF cakes that I'm not sure about [Re: Macaman]
#21743986 - 05/31/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey that's not a bad little cluster all things considered. Cubes are weeds, you will probably see more yet.
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