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Re: My Final Report. [Re: ApexNightmare]
    #21701873 - 05/20/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks again, everyone. Today is a much better day now that I'm back at work. Get to take my mind of of this whole experience for a little :]

I'm going to try and put together a trip report later tonight. There is a lot of blackout and fog in there, but I'll do my best to put what I experienced into words. I also have my girlfriend's point of view to fill in where I don't remember.



Could you say the name of that thread or put a link to it on this thread please so I can find it? I don't want to be rude but I definitely want to hear the tale.


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: Matt87]
    #21701891 - 05/20/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

yeah this report on erowid features lsa extract from morning glory and syrian rue, he had no issues, wonder what happened here.
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=13619


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21702046 - 05/20/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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I just wanted to add that these chemicals are not to be FUCKED with.  They definitely have an edge to them and aren't meant to be taken lightly.  I only spoke to my experience to LSD/Harmalas and I've seen how far that can take folk.  I've seen it make people swear psychedelics off completely.




I didn't know harmalas worked with LSD?


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: karode13]
    #21702051 - 05/20/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not surprised to tell the truth. Since you signed up here you've continually pushed the boundaries. You're not the first one to come along full of gusto only to be shot down a few months later after taking things too far.

I am sorry you had to go through this but these drugs are not toys to be trifled with.


New people to this scene who are reading this should take heed. This is what happens when you overdose on some of these substances. Know your substance, dosage and your limitations. Failure to do so can be disastrous.





  ^^^^&&what he said.....


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21702086 - 05/20/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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I just wanted to add that these chemicals are not to be FUCKED with.  They definitely have an edge to them and aren't meant to be taken lightly.  I only spoke to my experience to LSD/Harmalas and I've seen how far that can take folk.  I've seen it make people swear psychedelics off completely.




I didn't know harmalas worked with LSD?



im not convinced it does, at least not the same as simple tryps


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: SleepyE]
    #21702124 - 05/20/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Try it yourself if you KNOW you can find REAL LSD.  Trust me, it protentiates it 2-3 times as far as visually.  It also adds this headspace of being "grounded" for lack of a better term.  It is to be respected though as it shuts enzymes in your liver down temporarily. 

All I know is that I hardly fuck with the combo these days because it's extremely HEAVY.  It brings this whole other side of the lysergia out.  But be warned, audio hallucinations are common as are feelings of "telepathic" communitive thinking.  It's not for the feint of heart and I feel bad if I downplayed any of that aspect.  These are ancient plant teachers and should be respected as such.

When we were trying it we inbibed in a group.  Trying to reach that same headspace without the harmaloids is just gonna get weird.  They seem to put you on this "frequency".  Really strange stuff.
If the Rue hasn't been extracted.  I've heard Viscene can wreak havoc on women so I tried to extract as soon as I found that out.
To OP: I sincerely hope you put the pieces back together and not have to deal with many reprecussions.  Those are some of the stronger psychedelics known to man and I'm glad you made it out the other side.  I'd like to think you can pull something of value out of this one sir.


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21702148 - 05/20/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

id expect psilohuasca or 4-acohuasca to be far more intense.

lsd is weak compared to simple tryptamines imo.

never had a level 5 experience with lsd, hell not even a level 4


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #21702167 - 05/20/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Having tried all of the combos you just mentioned.  I'd have to say that LSD/Harmala is the most kind.  the 4-ACO/Harmala left me fucking SPEECHLESS for a good long time.  It's really not for the feint of heart.

I think what alot of people should take out of this thread is that strong doses are not for everybody!  Work your way up slow and experience all you can!  Its a long life and there is more than enough time.  Also, there is a very REAL breaking point for some.  These aren't "Drugs" they're tools.  You can build a bridge with a sledge hammer or you can bash somebodie's brain in; at least have some sort of intent going into it other than, "I want to Party."

These chemicals have so much to offer.  It just really sucks to see people hurt because of ignorance.


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21702354 - 05/20/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Having tried all of the combos you just mentioned.  I'd have to say that LSD/Harmala is the most kind.  the 4-ACO/Harmala left me fucking SPEECHLESS for a good long time.  It's really not for the feint of heart.

I think what alot of people should take out of this thread is that strong doses are not for everybody!  Work your way up slow and experience all you can!  Its a long life and there is more than enough time.  Also, there is a very REAL breaking point for some.  These aren't "Drugs" they're tools.  You can build a bridge with a sledge hammer or you can bash somebodie's brain in; at least have some sort of intent going into it other than, "I want to Party."

These chemicals have so much to offer.  It just really sucks to see people hurt because of ignorance.




...Love this thread!

...please please tell me more about shroomhuasca. I am extremely interested in this and also in high dose mushrooms.

..these stories are scary and fascinating at the same time. Tools not toys. everything about the psychedelic experience is just absolutely one of the most fascinating things and it's sad how many people don't get it!.

  before shroomery I thought I was an experience tripper. but after shroomery I feel like a total noob. the experiences and depth of those experiences that I read about on here has changed my whole perspective and humbled me greatly. I'm a sercher and an adventurer. but some of the weird shit that I've read about on here I'm not sure how I would handle it. it's definitely not a dick size contest.

....I want to know all that I can know about shroomhuasca. I did my experiment with Syrian rue and found 3 to 4 Gram to be very mild psychedelic with a dreamy sensation. left me with a little kidney soreness and somewhat dehydrated. I just extracted from the seeds with three half hour boils and condense down to about 4 to 6 ounces of liquid. I feel that this was a solid Maoi dose and that combined with  3 grams of mushrooms could be a pretty wild ride from what I've read.

Please please....tell me more


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21702456 - 05/20/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Well dosage advise is NOT allowed as everybody has a different phisiology.  Which as in the case of OP made itself VERY apparent. (Although I'll say that 1000 MG seeds+Harmala+150mgsDMT seems outlandish)

Whenever I tried mushrooms/harmalas I'd dose 120 mgs of the alkaloids 45 mins before hand and let that "calm" wash over me.  Usually smoking some cannabis and thinking about all the shit that could trigger a bad trip during this time.  I find getting all that out beforehand leaves the mind room to wander.  Then I usually ate whatever dose I was planning on.  I'm not sure I ever worked with anything over 3 grams of equadorian cubensis.  But I'll tell you sir, that is enough. :thisisheavyman:


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21702504 - 05/20/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Well dosage advise is NOT allowed as everybody has a different phisiology.  Which as in the case of OP made itself VERY apparent. (Although I'll say that 1000 MG seeds+Harmala+150mgsDMT seems outlandish)

Whenever I tried mushrooms/harmalas I'd dose 120 mgs of the alkaloids 45 mins before hand and let that "calm" wash over me.  Usually smoking some cannabis and thinking about all the shit that could trigger a bad trip during this time.  I find getting all that out beforehand leaves the mind room to wander.  Then I usually ate whatever dose I was planning on.  I'm not sure I ever worked with anything over 3 grams of equadorian cubensis.  But I'll tell you sir, that is enough. :thisisheavyman:




    ...maybe I should go 2.5 grams of mush.....I have been researching this sore almost 5 months and m very excited and curious about the experience.

  Also....luv your gif....hilarious. ..still trying to figure all that out I think I need to use my PC instead of doing it from my phone or tablet. love that s***!


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #21702744 - 05/20/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

yeah oral dmt seems to be the one thing that slams people down who wanna think they have balls of steel, it almost did for me :lol:



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Re: My Final Report. [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #21702840 - 05/20/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

oral DMT with smoked DMT inbetween is quite the trip as well!


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: Rewindicus] * 1
    #21702884 - 05/20/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think apexnightmares goal in making this thread was to get you guys to do the same retarded shit that just set him back in life a bit.


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #21702987 - 05/20/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't think apexnightmares goal in making this thread was to get you guys to do the same retarded shit that just set him back in life a bit.





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Re: My Final Report. [Re: namkha]
    #21703002 - 05/20/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
I don't think apexnightmares goal in making this thread was to get you guys to do the same retarded shit that just set him back in life a bit.





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Re: My Final Report. [Re: Matt87] * 2
    #21703103 - 05/20/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

A mountain of agreement?

:lol:


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Re: My Final Report. [Re: musiclover420] * 2
    #21703123 - 05/20/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I just wrote out my trip report, guys. Enjoy the read. And take care.


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Re: My Final Report. Updated with Trip Report. [Re: ApexNightmare]
    #21703166 - 05/20/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

hOly shit, just read the trip report in the OP.

It sounded like u went from 0 to a million in one second, and thats when u blacked out.

And it sounds like all the substances hit u all at once, something i was not expecting at all. I thought there was at least a short come-up, but no, just straight blackout/amensia.


Ego death onto of an ego death? Dude. Insane. I cant even imagine how they must have felt like.

Glad u are still aalive Apex. And thanks for writing the report. :thumbup:

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Re: My Final Report. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21703216 - 05/20/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Unlucky apex hope all goes well in te future for you and that this serves as a lesson not to push the barrier to far

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