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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #21700732 - 05/20/15 12:21 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Okay well I'm gonna ask you guys another question. This is not saying that god is real or not but, Would you guys want a god?

Like out of everything, would you want god to be real? Explain why as well.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21700850 - 05/20/15 01:13 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Yes. Infinite hope & unconditional love sounds pretty rad to me. All the fearmongers & uber-judgemental types have it all wrong.. as do the naysaying trolls.. I believe Jesus' real message is to abide, ya know? People are missing the point and taking things way too far, thus turning people off from something great. You can't buy a stairway to heaven.. the problem is, preaching is easier than leading by example.

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21700991 - 05/20/15 02:36 AM (9 years, 23 hours ago)

Having a god is like having a boogy man watching and judging you 24/7. Like having a moderator in the message board of life. Nobody wants that.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21701021 - 05/20/15 02:51 AM (9 years, 22 hours ago)

Honestly it really matters which perspective of god you choose to think of. The Abrahamic god is much different than the aztec gods :lol:


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21702379 - 05/20/15 01:21 PM (9 years, 12 hours ago)

for REAL.

ever heard of the Hindu Godess Kali?

and trust me, we NEED moderators.

although, IDEALLY, there would be no purpose for police and military


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: WeAreAnchors]
    #21702549 - 05/20/15 02:19 PM (9 years, 11 hours ago)

God is no moderator of anything. That's just silly. A moderator take action, If god is a moderator then is  lazy one because i haven't see him taking action of anything. Although I agree humans need some sort of global moderator, would be great... but realistically we don't have one. We are on our own, live with it.

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #21702630 - 05/20/15 02:46 PM (9 years, 11 hours ago)

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God is no moderator of anything. That's just silly. A moderator take action, If god is a moderator then is  lazy one because i haven't see him taking action of anything. Although I agree humans need some sort of global moderator, would be great... but realistically we don't have one. We are on our own, live with it.



Well why would a god want to take action directly? Why not just cause a chain of events to get the cause, also you know freewill and whatnot.

But the question was would you want god to exist? Or gods or whatever?


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21702736 - 05/20/15 03:25 PM (9 years, 10 hours ago)

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Well why would a god want to take action directly




Because a god can and a god would take action directly. The christian god took action directly in numerous occasions in the bible. For example god killed directly a lot of people in the old testament. Same for numerous other religions but i will take in example this one.

e.1
Biblical reference: Genesis 6:8
Fatalities: millions of people and animals
Crime: People being evil
Method used: drowning

e.2
Genesis 19:4-5
Fatalities: thousands of people
Crime:being evil and wanting to rape two angels (who visited Sodom in the form of men).
Method used: Burnt to death by fire and a rain of burning sulfur

e.3

Genesis 19:26
Fatalities: Lot’s wife.
Crime: Pausing to look back at the spectacle of God destroying entire cities, including her own residence and all her possessions, in a massive conflagration of fire and brimstone.
Method used: Transformed in to a pillar of salt.

And the list go on and on...

e.4
Genesis Exodus 14:28
Fatalities: The Egyptian army.
Crime: Refusing to disobey orders to pursue the Israelites fleeing through the Red Sea, which was parted with walls of water on both sides of the path.
Method used: Drowned when the seawater returned.

Why would a god not take action directly? Why nowadays god have to be sneaky and take action by a chain of events when a few thousand years he did it directly? Ask yourself these question. Same for different gods.

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But the question was would you want god to exist? Or gods or whatever?




With all the above i don't think so.

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #21702757 - 05/20/15 03:32 PM (9 years, 10 hours ago)

i heard he aint gonna do it by water this time


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zZZz]
    #21703167 - 05/20/15 05:13 PM (9 years, 8 hours ago)

I know the Light protects me. :thumbup:


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: WeAreAnchors]
    #21703201 - 05/20/15 05:21 PM (9 years, 8 hours ago)

and free will has been unconditionally honored by the Higher Orders of Light up until recently, since people believe they are better than others.

We are HUMAN. We dont have claws or sharp teeth. Mangoes and nectarines are DELICIOUS!!  At least we owe each other respect and compassion.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: WeAreAnchors]
    #21714652 - 05/23/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Achillita, why would you want a god? isn't life easier without one?

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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #21714745 - 05/23/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Mangoes and nectarines are DELICIOUS!!  At least we owe each other respect and compassion.



I don't know where this bit came from. :rofl:
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Achillita, why would you want a god? isn't life easier without one?



This question actually took some thinking on how to explain it correctly. I'd want a god because of the protection, not only of the body, but the soul as well. It provides a sort of guidance, even if only in very small ways.

To actually imagine an omnipotent god is quite terrifying. Something that created the whole universe, and every atom included in it. To create us. If a god actually acted like people expect it to, in everyday lives. The world would be chaos. How could you save one person if it could kill another? It'd make people so dependant on god, that they would not do anything.

But without a god, yes the world would be simpler. It'd show that we have nothing to fear, it'd make humans the top at least on earth. The idea of a god humbles man. Humans are so full of their own self, that if they realized they aren't as important as they portray themselves to be, we wouldn't be destroying this planet.

But back to the question why I want a god, It's honestly a hard question. Why would anyone want someone who proves they are so insignificant? But I think that's the point. It makes me remember that I'm not invincible and the world doesn't revolve around me. That the world doesn't revolve around any of us.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21714775 - 05/23/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

You don't need a god to realize that as only one of 7 billion sentient entities on the planet orbiting a sun that is one of gazillions of suns in the universe that it doesn't revolve around you.  Unless you are me, about whom the universe does actually revolve as anybody can see.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21714820 - 05/23/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Of course you don't need god to realize that, but a lot of the times it does make you realize that. Quite a few people imagine themselves invincible. At least to how they act. A lot of people act like complete douchebags, and don't give a second thought.

I've honestly met more hateful atheists than I've met hateful religious people. The only real difference is that religious people will be hateful using a religious text, or of beliefs.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21714829 - 05/23/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

God or no god, there are going to be douchebags


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21714997 - 05/23/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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God or no god, there are going to be douchebags



:lol: Agreed.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Achillita]
    #21715344 - 05/23/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I disagree. I think we can eliminate the douchebag sickness


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: WeAreAnchors] * 1
    #21715433 - 05/23/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

No, because then nobody would live in New Jersey.


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Re: Atheism vs religion poll discussion. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21715740 - 05/23/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

That'll be a huge shroom patch LOLOLOLOLOL


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