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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Did you just notice that?
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Crystal G]
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who can afford to pay $1200/mo for a 1br apartment in new zealand, that's a payment on a 4br house where I live and the $2000/mo for a 3br apartment will get you a damn nice house in the atlanta area
Oh, and $1200 is actually already the price for a 1-bedroom apartment in LA County. In fact, $1200 is the cheapest apartment you will ever find in LA County. $1100 was the cheapest 1-bedroom apartment I've ever found in all of LA County that wasn't in an area where I was going to get shot or stabbed or mugged. And it still wasn't that nice of a place either. What is happening now is that immigrants are taking up all the minimum wage jobs.
so new zealand is as overpriced as LA
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Well Obamacare has given employers an extreme incentive to keep people at 29 hours a week or stay under 50 employees and a living wage varies greatly depending on how many fucking children you have and where you live.
When minimum wage is too low, it also gives people incentive to stay on food stamps and collect unemployment and disability, instead of actually contributing to the work force.
no, government handouts give people incentive to keep sucking the welfare tit
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Shroomism]
#21709349 - 05/22/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: now shroomism posted a little 'infographic' showing that new zealanders have a $16 minimum wage, let's look at the exchange rate, NZ is at 76% of what the USD is worth so that $16/hr comes out to be around $12/hr in the US, still not shabby but when you apply that to the cost of the burger, that $4.74 burger is now at a whopping $5.70... then let's factor in what the cost of living is, for a domestic beer in the US I might pay a couple of dolllars, in NZ it appears be double the price of that in the US for domestics, I also spend about $12 on an 'inexpensive' meal at a place such as chili's or the average restaurant instead of $18
Grocery shopping in new zealand says that milk is around the same price as I'm paying but when we look at chicken $7/lb which is what I pay for steaks as opposed to the cheapest meat on the planet so it seems they pay a lot more and if someone is a smoker, $19 for a pack of marlboro instead of the $5 I would pay
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=New+Zealand
so really, how does it appear that the minimum wage hike in new zealand has affected the cost of living? it certainly doesnt appear that it's cheap to live there just as in canada and even california where those wages are higher and the cost of living has increased to reflect those higher wages
who can afford to pay $1200/mo for a 1br apartment in new zealand, that's a payment on a 4br house where I live and the $2000/mo for a 3br apartment will get you a damn nice house in the atlanta area
The infographic already calculated for the exchange rate. $16/hr is the equivalent in US dollars.
oh, so it's already adjusted for the exchange rate, that would mean that they're only making $12 an hour and the $16 minimum wage is fantasy numbers
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hahahaha... no
Perhaps I should reword that.
People who work full time 40+ hour weeks at a job, should be able to afford to live. If you work full time, and still struggle to make ends meet, you won't be very happy with your job. People who work full time and make enough money to survive... GENERALLY will be happier workers.
once more.... no.
some people stay pissed off that they have to work, others, no matter how much they make feel it's never enough, this happy worker bullshit boils down to nothing more than the attitude of the worker
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: zappaisgod]
#21709489 - 05/22/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Tenderloin's sidewalks might still have a few openings.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Shroomism]
#21709722 - 05/22/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://www.dol.gov/minwage/mythbuster.htm
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Minimum Wage Mythbusters
Myth: Raising the minimum wage will only benefit teens.
Not true: The typical minimum wage worker is not a high-school student earning weekend pocket money. In fact, 88 percent of those who would benefit from a federal minimum wage increase are age 20 or older, and 55 percent are women.
Myth: Increasing the minimum wage will cause people to lose their jobs.
Not true: A review of 64 studies on minimum wage increases found no discernable effect on employment. Additionally, more than 600 economists, seven of them Nobel Prize winners in economics, have signed onto a letter in support of raising the minimum wage to $10.10 by 2016.
Myth: Small business owners can't afford to pay their workers more, and therefore don't support an increase in the minimum wage.
Not true: A June 2014 survey found that more than 3 out of 5 small business owners support increasing the minimum wage to $10.10. Small business owners believe that a higher minimum wage would benefit business in important ways: 58% say raising the minimum wage would increase consumer purchasing power. 56% say raising the minimum wage would help the economy. In addition, 53% agree that with a higher minimum wage, businesses would benefit from lower employee turnover, increased productivity and customer satisfaction.
Myth: Raising the federal tipped minimum wage ($2.13 per hour since 1991) would hurt restaurants.
Not true: In California, employers are required to pay servers the full minimum wage of $9 per hour - before tips. Even with a recent increase in the minimum wage, the National Restaurant Association projects California restaurant sales will outpace the U.S. average in 2014.
Myth: Raising the federal tipped minimum wage ($2.13 per hour since 1991) would lead to restaurant job losses.
Not true: Employers in San Francisco must pay tipped workers the full minimum wage of $10.74 per hour – before tips. Yet, the San Francisco restaurant industry has experienced positive job growth over the past few years according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Myth: Raising the federal minimum wage won't benefit workers in states where the hourly minimum rate is already higher than the federal minimum.
Not true: Only 23 states and the District of Columbia currently have a minimum wage higher than the federal minimum, meaning a majority of states have an hourly minimum rate at or below the federal minimum. Increasing the federal minimum wage will boost the earnings for some 28 million low-wage workers nationwide. That includes workers in those states already earning above the current federal minimum. Raising the federal minimum wage is an important part of strengthening the economy. A raise for minimum wage earners will put more money in more families' pockets, which will be spent on goods and services, stimulating economic growth locally and nationally.
Myth: Younger workers don't have to be paid the minimum wage.
Not true: While there are some exceptions, employers are generally required to pay at least the federal minimum wage. Exceptions allowed include a minimum wage of $4.25 per hour for young workers under the age of 20, but only during their first 90 consecutive calendar days of employment with an employer, and as long as their work does not displace other workers. After 90 consecutive days of employment or the employee reaches 20 years of age, whichever comes first, the employee must receive the current federal minimum wage or the state minimum wage, whichever is higher. There are programs requiring federal certification that allow for payment of less than the full federal minimum wage, but those programs are not limited to the employment of young workers.
Myth: Restaurant servers don't need to be paid the minimum wage since they receive tips.
Not true: An employer can pay a tipped employee as little as $2.13 per hour in direct wages, but only if that amount plus tips equal at least the federal minimum wage and the worker retains all tips and customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips. Often, an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage. When that occurs, the employer must make up the difference. Some states have minimum wage laws specific to tipped employees. When an employee is subject to both the federal and state wage laws, he or she is entitled to the provisions of each law which provides the greater benefits.
Myth: Only part-time workers are paid the minimum wage.
Not true: About 53 percent of all minimum wage earners are full-time workers, and minimum wage workers contributed almost half (46 percent) of their household's wage and salary income in 2011. Moreover, more than 88 percent of those who would benefit from raising the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 are working adults, and 55 percent are working women.
Myth: Increasing the minimum wage is bad for businesses.
Not true: Academic research has shown that higher wages sharply reduce employee turnover which can reduce employment and training costs.
Myth: Increasing the minimum wage is bad for the economy.
Not true: Since 1938, the federal minimum wage has been increased 22 times. For more than 75 years, real GDP per capita has steadily increased, even when the minimum wage has been raised.
Myth: The federal minimum wage goes up automatically as prices increase.
Not true: While some states have enacted rules in recent years triggering automatic increases in their minimum wages to help them keep up with inflation, the federal minimum wage does not operate in the same manner. An increase in the federal minimum wage requires approval by Congress and the president. However, in his call to gradually increase the current federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, President Obama has also called for it to adjust automatically with inflation. Eliminating the requirement of formal congressional action would likely reduce the amount of time between increases, and better help low-income families keep up with rising prices.
Myth: The federal minimum wage is higher today than it was when President Reagan took office.
Not true: While the federal minimum wage was only $3.35 per hour in 1981 and is currently $7.25 per hour in real dollars, when adjusted for inflation, the current federal minimum wage would need to be more than $8 per hour to equal its buying power of the early 1980s and more nearly $11 per hour to equal its buying power of the late 1960s. That's why President Obama is urging Congress to increase the federal minimum wage and give low-wage workers a much-needed boost.
Myth: Increasing the minimum wage lacks public support.
Not true: Raising the federal minimum wage is an issue with broad popular support. Polls conducted since February 2013 when President Obama first called on Congress to increase the minimum wage have consistently shown that an overwhelming majority of Americans support an increase.
Myth: Increasing the minimum wage will result in job losses for newly hired and unskilled workers in what some call a “last-one-hired-equals-first-one-fired” scenario.
Not true: Minimum wage increases have little to no negative effect on employment as shown in independent studies from economists across the country. Academic research also has shown that higher wages sharply reduce employee turnover which can reduce employment and training costs.
Myth: The minimum wage stays the same if Congress doesn't change it.
Not true: Congress sets the minimum wage, but it doesn't keep pace with inflation. Because the cost of living is always rising, the value of a new minimum wage begins to fall from the moment it is set.
Now let's just wait for zap and Pris to argue the findings of 600 economists and 7 Nobel prize winners. It should be interesting.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Patlal] 1
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Myth: the government and politicians would never lie to further their own agenda
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: grower182]
#21709814 - 05/22/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The sad thing is that so many believe the government when it suits them, but not when it doesn't.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Patlal]
#21709909 - 05/22/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Now let's just wait for zap and Pris to argue the findings of 600 economists and 7 Nobel prize winners. It should be interesting.
check these nobel prize winners out
a terrorist

the man that started the carpet bombing with napalm in viet nam

a do nothing that decided to do something which resulted in the deaths if tens of thousands of innocent civilians and perpetuated a state of war

wanna hear a joke?
Q: what's the difference between a terrorist training camp and a pakistani wedding? A: I dont know either, I just pilot the drones
by my estimates, both you and I will receive a nobel prize in less than 15 years
they reviewed 63 studies, whooptifuckingdoo, they arent providing those studies and since we know that studies are driven by the funding it's not like it cant be called into question. what do the other thousands of studies have to say?
600 economists? wow, why such a low number, even Archetects and Engineers For 9/11 Truth have more professionals that are claiming 9/11 was a controlled demolition.... so those economists are already on weak footing
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-05-20/los-angeles-s-15-minimum-wage-will-hurt-workers http://www.forbes.com/sites/williamdunkelberg/2012/12/31/why-raising-the-minimum-wage-kills-jobs/ http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2013/03/11/raising-the-minimum-wage-wont-help-the-poor
even warren buffett says that it will cost jobs and believes that raising the earned income tax credit is a more appropriate way to deal with it, I cant disagree
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/05/warren-buffett-minimum-wage/392333/
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#21709966 - 05/22/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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See what I mean?
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Patlal]
#21710102 - 05/22/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Raising the minimum wage will guarantee those who aren't worthy of that wage will lose their job, and getting a simple burger flipping gig wont be as easy as it was before. All these people thinking that they're getting free money without without consequences are in for a rude awakening. There will be more shops closing and pink slips handed out than anything.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Astral Pain] 3
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What happens to the people like me who have a college degree and make 20 an hour? Will my wages rise by 80% as well cause if so sure let's do it!! This fuckin piece of paper only cost me $20,000 and 8 years of my life. Am still hoping I made the right choice to pursue a higher education over working as a cashier at mc Donald's but with the minimal income disparity between the two I am starting to wonder. Shit I could be making free burgers for myself on the side every day.
No jk, my job is better but I am pretty pissed I'll be making a little over minimum wage with all I've put into getting an education. Leaves me daydreaming of an earthquake devouring the soured city of LA, and forcing it down into the watery abyss it deserves to rest in for the next several million years, and I fear even then it will not be cleansed of it's stank
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Suspector]
#21710212 - 05/22/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Suspector said: Why are they waiting 5 years?
They aren't. It goes from $9 to $10.50, then to $12, then to $13.25, then to $14.25 and finally to $15, incrementally over the next five years.
An interesting article with some statistical analysis worth reading: Every Single Part of Los Angeles is Unaffordable on $15/Hour.
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This is a good thing—higher minimum wages will bring a lot of working people out of poverty, where they never should have been in the first place, and make it easier for them to continue living in Los Angeles. But it won't make it easy. Technically, it won't even make it possible.
Assuming a person earning $15 an hour is also working 40 a week, which is rare for a minimum wage employee, and that they're not taking any days off (the City Council considered bundling paid days off with the wage hike, but scrapped the idea), they'd be earning $31,200 a year. An Economic Policy Institute study released in March found that a single, childless person living in Los Angeles has to make $34,324 a year just to live in decent conditions (and that was using data from 2013). A household with one parent and one kid would need to be bringing in $60,600, and it just goes up from there. A childless couple is the exception here: they only need to make $46,750 combined, which would be possible in our imaginary minimum wage scenario...
In so far as my personal view, while I don't necessarily believe that minimum wage increases are the ideal solution, I find it hard to not support measures that will benefit working people.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: ManianFH]
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mick said: What happens to the people like me who have a college degree and make 20 an hour? Will my wages rise by 80% as well cause if so sure let's do it!! This fuckin piece of paper only cost me $20,000 and 8 years of my life. Am still hoping I made the right choice to pursue a higher education over working as a cashier at mc Donald's but with the minimal income disparity between the two I am starting to wonder. Shit I could be making free burgers for myself on the side every day.
No jk, my job is better but I am pretty pissed I'll be making a little over minimum wage with all I've put into getting an education. Leaves me daydreaming of an earthquake devouring the soured city of LA, and forcing it down into the watery abyss it deserves to rest in for the next several million years, and I fear even then it will not be cleansed of it's stank
It's about working in LA, don't compare your situation with minimum wage earners in that part of the country.
I'm sure many businesses don't even mind the hike, it leaves them with more reliable workers and potentially less competition in many industries.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: qman]
#21710251 - 05/22/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I do not care what LA does. It is none of my business. I think minimum wage is a stupid idea and an even stupider idea is to have a national one. The robots are coming
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: CaptainKurt]
#21710310 - 05/22/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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CaptainKurt said: Don't get me started on single mothers using disability and the like. They are basically using the gov as their man, they cost everybody more taxmoney the norm 2 parent familys.
http://www.hadit.com/forums/topic/15610-100-disability-with-proposed-incompetence/ so many "women" sit at home pumping out kids with no husbands
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: Yeah except $15/hour is hardly even enough to survive in LA as is 
That a common myth. People live in LA with no income at all. Its easy to live on little to no pay in the US.
I suggest that your notion of "survive" is actually living it up with luxury.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: qman]
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mick said: What happens to the people like me who have a college degree and make 20 an hour? Will my wages rise by 80% as well cause if so sure let's do it!! This fuckin piece of paper only cost me $20,000 and 8 years of my life. Am still hoping I made the right choice to pursue a higher education over working as a cashier at mc Donald's but with the minimal income disparity between the two I am starting to wonder. Shit I could be making free burgers for myself on the side every day.
No jk, my job is better but I am pretty pissed I'll be making a little over minimum wage with all I've put into getting an education. Leaves me daydreaming of an earthquake devouring the soured city of LA, and forcing it down into the watery abyss it deserves to rest in for the next several million years, and I fear even then it will not be cleansed of it's stank
It's about working in LA, don't compare your situation with minimum wage earners in that part of the country.
I live in OC, the average of costs here are almost identical.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: ManianFH]
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mick said: What happens to the people like me who have a college degree and make 20 an hour? Will my wages rise by 80% as well cause if so sure let's do it!! This fuckin piece of paper only cost me $20,000 and 8 years of my life. Am still hoping I made the right choice to pursue a higher education over working as a cashier at mc Donald's but with the minimal income disparity between the two I am starting to wonder. Shit I could be making free burgers for myself on the side every day.
No jk, my job is better but I am pretty pissed I'll be making a little over minimum wage with all I've put into getting an education. Leaves me daydreaming of an earthquake devouring the soured city of LA, and forcing it down into the watery abyss it deserves to rest in for the next several million years, and I fear even then it will not be cleansed of it's stank
It's about working in LA, don't compare your situation with minimum wage earners in that part of the country.
I live in OC, the average of costs here are almost identical.
Ok, that's a valid point, maybe the same policy is coming to your area in the near future.
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Re: Los Angeles Lifts Its Minimum Wage to $15 Per Hour By 2020 [Re: geokills]
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Suspector said: Why are they waiting 5 years?
They aren't. It goes from $9 to $10.50, then to $12, then to $13.25, then to $14.25 and finally to $15, incrementally over the next five years.
An interesting article with some statistical analysis worth reading: Every Single Part of Los Angeles is Unaffordable on $15/Hour.
In so far as my personal view, while I don't necessarily believe that minimum wage increases are the ideal solution, I find it hard to not support measures that will benefit working people.
And here's an interesting article I ran across yesterday. It says you need to make about $30 an hour to be able to live in OC. I can't say I disagree. I too live in OC. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/housing-662242-rent-low.html
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Shroomism said: Yeah except $15/hour is hardly even enough to survive in LA as is 
That a common myth. People live in LA with no income at all. Its easy to live on little to no pay in the US.
I suggest that your notion of "survive" is actually living it up with luxury.
Yeah you can be homeless on nothing, sure. I've done it. You can sleep on skid row with all the crackheads and gang bangers if you want, sure. But if you want to have a job, a place to live, transportation.. we're talking about people who work full time. Do you know many homeless people that hold down full time jobs?
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