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Anonymous #1

Tapering off a mild alcohol habit
    #21660977 - 05/10/15 12:01 PM (9 years, 10 days ago)

The past couple months or so, I've been drinking at night to feel good and get to sleep. It started out with only a few beers but that didn't last too long and now I've been drinking between 6 to 8 beers a night (although I prefer the effects I get from drinking 6 over the evening/night.) I've noticed that when I'm sober, I'm not fully sober anymore/than I feel odd. It ranges from worsening depression to anxiety, clammy skin and dizziness. I don't always get these mild withdrawal symptoms though which is odd. I'll probably get them throughout the day 4 out of 5 times but there is that one lucky morning where I'll wake up and not have any symptoms until later in the day. I'm trying to taper today but I don't really know how to besides the general thought of drink one less than you normally do. I want to get back to normal sobriety, sort of. I'd rather have normal sobriety than the more extreme ups and downs of feeling like crap, drinking, feeling good or even sometimes really good. I drank half a rolling rock an hour ago and it made me feel a bit better and finished the first half now. I am trying to drink as little as I can to feel normal because I think otherwise I would just be putting withdrawing off til tomorrow? If I can feel okay-ish with half a beer every hour, I'll stick to that or increase it a bit if need be.
I understand why I drink, because I've got no friends and fail miserably when I try to meet people. But lately I haven't even been trying to meet people cause I feel so awful so I'm hopeful that if I can get myself off of alcohol for the time being, I can feel better enough to meet people again and hang out during the day instead of withdrawing. Meh, my life sucks but maybe it will only half suck once I taper off.

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Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21661218 - 05/10/15 01:13 PM (9 years, 10 days ago)

worst feeling of any substance is alcohol hangover, to me. i quit by smoking weed instead but that became another problem in itself.  i'd rather be a pothead instead of a drunk so maybe it can be of some help to you if you consciously tell yourself i'm not drinking and instead am going to smoke just a little weed to get the edge off.

being a drunk is terrible for your health and won't help you make any solid friends only lose them.  6-8 beers a night is a lot of booze.  you can do it man..

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Anonymous #1

Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: refried]
    #21661279 - 05/10/15 01:32 PM (9 years, 10 days ago)

Bud tends to make me paranoid but I'm in a place where it's not entirely illegal which convenient. I don't really experience a classical hangover (headaches, can't keep food down etc.), I think I experience mild withdrawal symptoms. On the low dose of alcohol I'm on right now, I don't have those symptoms which is nice. I had another beer about an hour after I posted. I don't want to go cold turkey even though I could without real medical danger, but I'd rather taper down if I can. Makes it easier.

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Anonymous #1

Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21665128 - 05/11/15 12:25 PM (9 years, 9 days ago)

Feeling much better today, I don't feel any of the withdrawals I've gotten in the past. Grateful for feeling way better and hope that I can continue feeling better. I imagine getting to sleep might be more difficult tonight but I have some melatonin and bud I can use if need be. I'll be more active today and walk around more to help make me more tired at night and avoid caffeine too.

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Anonymous #2

Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21667104 - 05/11/15 08:08 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

I too need to get a handle on my drinking.  I usualy do/did 3-6 beers every night during the week and then I drink all day and night friday/sat/sun.  This has been going on for like 3 years now.

What works for me is to just not have beer at the pad.  And to not allow myself to drink alone during the week.


I tried about tapering like you are saying, but it just puts alcohol on my mind and in my fridge.  So for the last month or so I've been cold turkey during the week and only drinking on the weekends.  During the week I only allow myself to drink if its socially with other people.  And it turns out that isn't that often, maybe once a week if that.

I get withdrawls I guess, and I might get some headaches, feel like shit, but really the day I feel 100% mentally and physically is the 2nd day sober.  And that feels good, and is a motivator by itself.  So it  grows to 3 or 4 days in a row (then the weekend hits, ugh) because the memory of that daily alcohol shit feeling is enough to keep me away.  Even 1 or 2 beers as a tapering measure just fucks with that 100% feeling that alcohol has been taking from me, and what I want back most of all. 


This method is sort of working for me, I'm at least slowing down.  Good luck man.  :peace:

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Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21670261 - 05/12/15 02:46 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

LSD and psilocybin have been used to treat alcoholism I believe. Sounds like a little could help you out and offer new perspective.


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Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: mcspargeslarg]
    #21671136 - 05/12/15 06:03 PM (9 years, 7 days ago)

I've used LSD recreationally but haven't thought of how to go about using it therapeutically. Psilocybin certainly sounds interesting but that's less familiar territory for me as I've only had a couple of low dose experiences with it. (But I can understand its healing potential from my limited experience :laugh:)
I'm fascinated with ketamine and how it relates to depression (my main issue, IMO.) If you've used either psilocybin or L therapeutically, do you have any recommendations on how to make the approach therapeutic vs recreational?
Quitting's tricky, like during the day I haven't had withdrawals but at night I still like drinking but I've been trying to drink less like only 4 instead of 6. I don't really want to quit full time, mainly just outside of the weekends. I've had a bad cough all day today so I'm having some beer to calm that down. I'm trying to stay on a low dose of alcohol as it's actually been working and I'm a cigarette smoker so I don't want to take any actual cough suppressants cause of all the stuff in my lungs. I'd smoke weed but that wouldn't be a good idea as that makes me cough worse than cigs.

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Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21702154 - 05/20/15 12:04 PM (9 years, 3 hours ago)

This is just one person's opinion but I would look into mushrooms before LSD. These days you don't know what your getting with all the research chemicals floating around. A lot of people will take some mushies and sit in a dark room. Your mind will do the rest. Check out the Psychedelic Experience forum to see what people do for therapeutic type trips.


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Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: mcspargeslarg]
    #21702599 - 05/20/15 02:32 PM (9 years, 42 minutes ago)

Thanks, I'll look into it. I recently sorta got fucked over a bit and people in my life found out that I've used L and tried talking down to me about it even though they were so uninformed. (They asked me: "What's next on the list? Are you gonna do meth now??" Yes, I'm totally gonna try meth cause it's such a wonderful psychedelic and is so beneficial. Not!)
I'm lucky cause I have access to cheap test kits through an organization. I used to just taste like a corner of the tab and see if I noticed a bitter taste. Before that, I would eat the tabs and got an RC one time. No clue wtf it was but it tasted sooo bitter and chemically, not just a mild bitterness.

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Re: Tapering off a mild alcohol habit [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21790051 - 06/10/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I relapsed really bad last week and am at a rehab place. The week had started off alright. Social drinking with friends and not getting blackout but I just kept on drinkin alone the next day (Monday) until Thursday night. I got caught in my room by someone who cares about me because I wasn't replying to their texts. I was super drunk so they called an ambulance on me. Not much happened there (at least I don't think I had my stomach pumped but my drunk ass doesn't really know what happened.) The cops took me to the drunk tank, or more formally, alcohol detox center. My BAC was crazy high because I wasn't at 0 until 3pm the next day. Withdrawal wasn't bad enough for them to give me meds because I didn't have the shakes. WD started at around 1pm and through the two day course of withdrawal, consisted of pins and needles sensations, feeling icky, night sweats and other bad feelings that I can't explain. Happy to be at rehab this time which I can't say about the last time where I was sent there and lied my way through without addressing most of the underlying issues/saying I felt better so I could get out. I'll write later after the movie ends in the common room.

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