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Offlineblojo02184
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need help from a fellow convict...
    #21701224 - 05/20/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I am a convicted felon.
I need a job.

How did you get a job? How do you avoid or inform people of your past?

I'm tired of sitting around the house and being broke.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: blojo02184]
    #21701238 - 05/20/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Move to a state where it is illegal to ask about criminal histories.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: blojo02184]
    #21701251 - 05/20/15 06:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Get a construction job. I'm sure you know someone, or know someone who knows someone, that owns some type of construction related business.
If they could use some cheap help, they'll hire you.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: TopPmz]
    #21701310 - 05/20/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, construction. Or do some more felonious things for money.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: blojo02184]
    #21701316 - 05/20/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Best thing you could do is go to college . Apply for financial assistance .. Go to school ,smoke all day that's what I would do. Even though you have that past if you get a degree like in engineering. Or a fucking doctor lol I'm sure you could find a job. If not just he a drug dealer or sneak out of the country and become another person in Europe or something lol . I couldn't imagine having a felony follow me around. Hell 2 misdemeanors are bad enough


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Shroom Kitty]
    #21701332 - 05/20/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Even with a degree, background checks would show his felony, and hurt him.
And those jobs probably look further back.

Not saying don't go to school, OP. Yeah they felony will still hurt, but a degree or certificate of some kind will make you more marketable.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: TopPmz] * 1
    #21701336 - 05/20/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: blojo02184]
    #21701338 - 05/20/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Here's a list of felon friendly employers.

https://exoffenders.net/employment-jobs-for-felons/


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Matt87]
    #21701358 - 05/20/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Matt87 said:
You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.



LOL!

That would be nice.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Shroom Kitty] * 3
    #21701372 - 05/20/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Best thing you could do is go to college . Apply for financial assistance .. Go to school ,smoke all day that's what I would do. Even though you have that past if you get a degree like in engineering. Or a fucking doctor lol I'm sure you could find a job. If not just he a drug dealer or sneak out of the country and become another person in Europe or something lol . I couldn't imagine having a felony follow me around. Hell 2 misdemeanors are bad enough




This is what lazy liberal fuck tards do who want to be a strain to our society.
I am shocked at how stupid people have gotten. You are telling this man, who hates sitting on his ass and wants to be productive , and you are telling him to do exactly that, be lazy... at some school and leech money from gov.

This thought process is rampant, and people wonder why our country is taking a nose dive fast. You got retards who make comments like this kitty person and im sure she is in the majority, which is scary.  OP what do you like to do? Thought about your own Ebay/amazon type store just to get some cash coming in? I apologize for the dregs of society telling you to leech and  be lazy.

Im embarrassed that persons train of thought exists.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: FranklinsTower]
    #21701385 - 05/20/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You're in Maine? The answer is to mine tourmaline crystals.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Shroom Kitty]
    #21701397 - 05/20/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

He's not getting any financial assistance for school if he has a felony.


@ op - you need to learn a trade and start your own business.  I was in the same boat as you at one time. There are many trades to choose from. Apply yourself and work hard, it can be done.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: MightyWhite]
    #21701420 - 05/20/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I landed myself a felony almost 10 years ago. Right after high school too and had turned 18 :bored:

I can say pizza is a great route to go if you simply need a job and not really a career. Most non commercial pizza places do NOT background check. Unless its pizza hut, i can honestly say not one person is gonna inquire. Hell you could probably lie (but be aware of the consequences if they ever found out..... possibly being fired for fibbing on a resume)


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: MightyWhite]
    #21701423 - 05/20/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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MightyWhite said:
He's not getting any financial assistance for school if he has a felony.


@ op - you need to learn a trade and start your own business.  I was in the same boat as you at one time. There are many trades to choose from. Apply yourself and work hard, it can be done.




I have a felony and received financial aid. As long as its not drug related, you qualify


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21701437 - 05/20/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Let me share some information with you....felon to felon, just so you know what you are up against.

If you ever apply for a job that finger prints you and runs a livescan which is basically an inquiry through the FBI. Not only are they gonna see your felony, but they are also going to see every single fucking charge that they TRIED to charge you with.

O yes, you read fucking right. Despite me having my felony reduced to a misdemeanor and dismissed off my record, its still there in black and white. And every single other charge they tried to hit me with.

But dont worry, in small ass print in the very corner of every charge it reads "No conviction" :strokebeard2:

Be aware of how badly uncle Sam fucked you in the ass. Hell just for fun go to your local police station and pay for a lifescan on yourself. Fortunately only certain employers can run them. Basically government jobs or jobs which have you working with children or elderly. But be aware. Despite me being able to own a Gun again, it still shows some pretty brutal shit they tried to charge me with.

How the fuck do you explain attempted murder of an officer :pokerawe: "Dont worry sir, see that NOT CONVICTED print in the bottom corner" :rolleyes:


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: MightyWhite]
    #21701446 - 05/20/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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MightyWhite said:
He's not getting any financial assistance for school if he has a felony.


@ op - you need to learn a trade and start your own business.  I was in the same boat as you at one time. There are many trades to choose from. Apply yourself and work hard, it can be done.




However if you DO learn a trade in a state like California, you require a license for pretty much every trade.....and they will inquire about your criminal past and you will have to convince a board of folks that you are not a shit person


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Matt87]
    #21701449 - 05/20/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
Yeah, construction. Or do some more felonious things for money.




Its really sad man, on a dark and stormy night there has seriously been times where your mind takes you that route because of how fucking worried you are about your financial future. And they wonder why X cons are prone to still commit crimes. Having lived in Humboldt County though I can tell you there is no money in growing anymore. Believe it or not the pizza industry and the pot industry are heavily tied together :lol: All the growers and dealers I met pot wise are struggling. Legal weed really does hit the black market


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:


Edited by Almond Flour (05/20/15 07:49 AM)


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21701452 - 05/20/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Oh no kidding?  I tried to get financial assistance for school and was denied, but my felonies are drug related.  I was under the impression that any felony disqualified financial assistance.  Hell, the counselor that I talked with acted like I wasn't even welcome on the campus property.
Kudos to you man for getting into school.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: MightyWhite]
    #21701456 - 05/20/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Oh no kidding?  I tried to get financial assistance for school and was denied, but my felonies are drug related.  I was under the impression that any felony disqualified financial assistance.  Hell, the counselor that I talked with acted like I wasn't even welcome on the campus property.
Kudos to you man for getting into school.




Even graduated :shrug: and technically my felony was on the border of violent. Resisting arrest with use of force, but they are gonna reject you just because of fucking drugs? What a fucking joke man. Sorry bro :hug: If it makes you feel better I wish I never went sometimes. I have so much debt, and my criminal past STILL is a barrier to getting employment


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:


Edited by Almond Flour (05/20/15 07:51 AM)


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: TopPmz]
    #21701476 - 05/20/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

TopPmz said:
Quote:

Matt87 said:
You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.



LOL!

That would be nice.



You should that is. You don't agree?


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21701484 - 05/20/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Almond Flour said:
Quote:

Matt87 said:
Yeah, construction. Or do some more felonious things for money.




Its really sad man, on a dark and stormy night there has seriously been times where your mind takes you that route because of how fucking worried you are about your financial future. And they wonder why X cons are prone to still commit crimes. Having lived in Humboldt County though I can tell you there is no money in growing anymore. Believe it or not the pizza industry and the pot industry are heavily tied together :lol: All the growers and dealers I met pot wise are struggling. Legal weed really does hit the black market



Ohh.... the black market is doing just fine. Try the bible belt.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Matt87]
    #21701499 - 05/20/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
Quote:

TopPmz said:
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Matt87 said:
You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.



LOL!

That would be nice.



You should that is. You don't agree?




I agree too. Fuck the rich mother fuckers. You will find your felony is a blessing and a curse man. It will cause you to have to redefine a few things in your life, and change your goals, its what happens when society redefines you as a person based of a few unpleasant characteristics made public by you getting charged.

Dont worry man, being a criminal isnt too bad. But be aware, this is how society, hell even your own family (in my experience) views you now. Your a criminal bro, like it or not....but your not alone :hug: and the bulk of us are, many folks are just fortunate not to be caught

I really like this quote from that show Better call Saul made by that badass from Breaking bad :lol:



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Edited by Almond Flour (05/20/15 08:04 AM)


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21701503 - 05/20/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It's all good, looking back I guess I'm glad I was denied assistance, as I have no debts. I still ended up OPE certified from my own hard work and determination, without anyone's help. But yeah having felonies puts a person at a huge disadvantage for finding employment,  I struggled for years. 

Maybe without my felonies, I wouldn't be where I'm at today? I would just be working for someone else putting money in their pockets instead of my own.  I'm definitely not saying having felonies is a good thing, but they took my life in a whole different direction than what I imagined my life would be


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Matt87]
    #21701519 - 05/20/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
Quote:

TopPmz said:
Quote:

Matt87 said:
You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.



LOL!

That would be nice.



You should that is. You don't agree?




Yeah, sure but you either have to pay for it, or mooch off the government/taxpayers to go to school. I'm not willing to be a leech on society just so I can learn some stuff. Its in your best interest to go to school for something that interests you, and is a viable course for financial gain.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: TopPmz]
    #21701527 - 05/20/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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TopPmz said:
Quote:

Matt87 said:
Quote:

TopPmz said:
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Matt87 said:
You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.



LOL!

That would be nice.



You should that is. You don't agree?




Yeah, sure but you either have to pay for it, or mooch off the government/taxpayers to go to school. I'm not willing to be a leech on society just so I can learn some stuff. Its in your best interest to go to school for something that interests you, and is a viable course for financial gain.



I disagree, I still wish I would had gotten to major in music or Spanish. If prisoner or zappa wanna pay for it with their tax dollars that's on them :aweohyou:


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21701611 - 05/20/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbdown:


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: TopPmz]
    #21701717 - 05/20/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Go to a trade school and get an automotive certificate. I know some people with felonies that make decent money pulling dents out of shitty cars :shrug:

Or go in for high performance and open a tuner shop, learn how to work with the ecu's to make cars faster, people pay out the ass for that kind of work, and there is a lot of under the table work involved making illegal modifications which means tax free income.

Just be sure to only list the legally acquired money on tax forms and stuff.

Or go in for business and open up whatever kind of store you want


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #21701908 - 05/20/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I got my associates in accounting,and working on my bachelor's.

This is an armed robbery charge that I served 2 1/2 years in state prison. In Massachusetts.

I am getting financial aid because it's not a drug offense.

Thanks for the link. Mining tourmaline isn't my thing. Nor hard labor.

I didn't choose accounting to pick up a shovel.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: FranklinsTower]
    #21701925 - 05/20/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

lol that's crazy because im as conservative as they come. just throwing that out there. its not like he is looking for handouts. hes in pursuit of happiness:shrug:


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: blojo02184]
    #21701934 - 05/20/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Haha! No offense but it'll be hard getting anyone to trust you with an armed robbery charge. As a miner I wouldn't even hire you for my crew based on that(have no crew this year anyway). I do however pay people with drug convictions. I stay away from murder, armed robbery,  and child molesters. Pretty much anything violent or criminally deceptive.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Shroom Kitty] * 1
    #21701945 - 05/20/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

and bitch if can say that shit if I want . I pay taxes to bro. how much did you pay into taxes last year man? i don't know you but odds are you got a refund. i had to pay 9000 on top of what i paid all year so i must respectfully ask you to suck a dick puto :iseewhatyoudidthere:


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: MightyWhite]
    #21702293 - 05/20/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MightyWhite said:
He's not getting any financial assistance for school if he has a felony.


@ op - you need to learn a trade and start your own business.  I was in the same boat as you at one time. There are many trades to choose from. Apply yourself and work hard, it can be done.





was going to say, probably not going to get that school loan tit.

and this for advice as well. food and beverage is an industry as well that generally does nothing for background stuff


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: blojo02184]
    #21702330 - 05/20/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Gotta love the stifling despair of being pubically branded for life. Personally unless its murder, a serious sexual offence or youve managed to be labeled a violent offender I dont think any employer has any more business knowing your past then you know theirs. Something as simple as being caught with a half oz of grass or fucking up and stealing something once can ruin your live for years and years. Its not right. Youve already paid your debt to society when you made it through whatever sentence they handed out, now you gotta walk around with a brand of whatever you did virtually scarred into your fucking face. Its ridiculous.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: TopPmz]
    #21703029 - 05/20/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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TopPmz said:
Quote:

Matt87 said:
Quote:

TopPmz said:
Quote:

Matt87 said:
You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.



LOL!

That would be nice.



You should that is. You don't agree?




Yeah, sure but you either have to pay for it, or mooch off the government/taxpayers to go to school. I'm not willing to be a leech on society just so I can learn some stuff. Its in your best interest to go to school for something that interests you, and is a viable course for financial gain.



Who mooches off the government? Do you mean loans? Loans are not mooching. They cost money. It's ridiculous that the government actually leeches off students when it collects interest on those loans.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21703091 - 05/20/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Gotta love the stifling despair of being pubically branded for life. Personally unless its murder, a serious sexual offence or youve managed to be labeled a violent offender I dont think any employer has any more business knowing your past then you know theirs. Something as simple as being caught with a half oz of grass or fucking up and stealing something once can ruin your live for years and years. Its not right. Youve already paid your debt to society when you made it through whatever sentence they handed out, now you gotta walk around with a brand of whatever you did virtually scarred into your fucking face. Its ridiculous.



I agree to an extent. As an employer who hires about 3 times a year for my company (or as vacancies appear), I don't care at all what you have on your record IF it doesn't matter for that position.

Example I won't hire someone who has a DUI within the last 5 years to drive trucks, or someone with a theft conviction in the last 5 years to work in the barn around tools and other things that can be stolen. I'm very anal about inventory and finances and to date this approach has not failed me.

I have a guy with a criminal record 3 pages long working for me (and yes, I do conduct background checks for my insurance) including attempted murder on a K-9 police officer, and I've made it clear as long as he does his job as anyone else does and doesn't get anything more than a speeding ticket, he can keep his job. Over one year working for me and he is my hardest worker. Not one issue with the guy. It's actually the people with just drug convictions or no criminal record at all that are the laziest / don't always show up on time.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: D.M.T]
    #21703135 - 05/20/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

out of all my employees, the felons i have hired are the hardest working and have the best attitudes.

i dont do background checks..my industry doesnt require it and its a learnable trade.

look at trades op, you can find work. just go physically knock on the mom and pop shops in your area. fill out the damned application correctly, and if you cant speak with a manager on the spot have the receptionist give it to the hiring manager.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: koods]
    #21703250 - 05/20/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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You go to school in the pursuit of knowledge not for money.



LOL!

That would be nice.



You should that is. You don't agree?




Yeah, sure but you either have to pay for it, or mooch off the government/taxpayers to go to school. I'm not willing to be a leech on society just so I can learn some stuff. Its in your best interest to go to school for something that interests you, and is a viable course for financial gain.



Who mooches off the government? Do you mean loans? Loans are not mooching. They cost money. It's ridiculous that the government actually leeches off students when it collects interest on those loans.



No I don't mean loans. Loans have to be paid back, and matt was saying not to go to school to make money. I was saying you have to have money.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: D.M.T]
    #21703606 - 05/20/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Gotta love the stifling despair of being pubically branded for life. Personally unless its murder, a serious sexual offence or youve managed to be labeled a violent offender I dont think any employer has any more business knowing your past then you know theirs. Something as simple as being caught with a half oz of grass or fucking up and stealing something once can ruin your live for years and years. Its not right. Youve already paid your debt to society when you made it through whatever sentence they handed out, now you gotta walk around with a brand of whatever you did virtually scarred into your fucking face. Its ridiculous.



I agree to an extent. As an employer who hires about 3 times a year for my company (or as vacancies appear), I don't care at all what you have on your record IF it doesn't matter for that position.

Example I won't hire someone who has a DUI within the last 5 years to drive trucks, or someone with a theft conviction in the last 5 years to work in the barn around tools and other things that can be stolen. I'm very anal about inventory and finances and to date this approach has not failed me.

I have a guy with a criminal record 3 pages long working for me (and yes, I do conduct background checks for my insurance) including attempted murder on a K-9 police officer, and I've made it clear as long as he does his job as anyone else does and doesn't get anything more than a speeding ticket, he can keep his job. Over one year working for me and he is my hardest worker. Not one issue with the guy. It's actually the people with just drug convictions or no criminal record at all that are the laziest / don't always show up on time.




Youre a level headed exception among employers. Your hiring oractices arnt what I have a problem with its the ones that single everyone with a record out that are problamatic.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #21705302 - 05/21/15 05:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Haha! No offense but it'll be hard getting anyone to trust you with an armed robbery charge. As a miner I wouldn't even hire you for my crew based on that(have no crew this year anyway). I do however pay people with drug convictions. I stay away from murder, armed robbery,  and child molesters. Pretty much anything violent or criminally deceptive.



It's good to see assholes that can't look in a mirror and realize the change that has happened within themselves; Because it is this fact, that it's your true belief that people can not change, for better or worse.

Hey bud, look in a mirror. Would you go do the same shit you did when you were 16-18? Probably not due to many reasons.

Also, armed robbery holds a better status in prison than everything but murder.  I didn't go behind someone's back to steal shit, I was not deceiving people by selling drugs, I didn't touch a kid or rape a woman.

A drug dealer worries about one thing, money.
A thief, same thing.
Rapist, kinda obvious.

I walked into a store and told the attendant to give me the money. she did, and I walked away. Walked! I wasn't shady about it, I didn't try to be sneaky. I made my intentions clear.

Good luck getting a thief or drug dealer to give you his true intentions.



I don't regret what I have done because without that learning experience, I wouldn't be the man I am today.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: blojo02184]
    #21705355 - 05/21/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah well good luck with all that... I guess you chose accounting because you like to rob people. Some of the worst greediest thieves I've known were accountants. Your attitude toward someone else's free choice to associate with a convict or not is shitty and tells a lot about your self entitled nature. You won your freedom back but you have no right to expect everyone to be cool with what you did. You didn't win any sort of self entitlement certificate that says you're guaranteed a job. Society actually told me and my friends when we were in kindergarten that if we break certain laws, people will never hire us for a good job.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #21705397 - 05/21/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

People change. Past mistakes shouldnt haunt anyone for the reminder of their lives unless their particularly heinous.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: koods]
    #21705440 - 05/21/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Move to a state where it is illegal to ask about criminal histories.




I know in Illinois if it has been 7 years, you don't have to answer yes.

Or if you were convicted as a minor.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: Shiithead]
    #21705580 - 05/21/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Here in Ohio if you were convicted of a felony, the correct answer on an application if it was only as a juvenile 'NO' you have not been convicted of a felony. You're an adjudicated juvenile, not a convict.

The shitty thing is, and it doesn't matter how young you were or what the felony is, if the employer requests a state background check from BCI like I'm required to, no matter what it is going to say 'CONVICTED ON FELONY CHARGE' right next to your name. This is actually worse than being convicted as an adult because at least as an adult it will show what the original charge was and the disposition. As a juvenile it won't say anything at all about the actual charges unless it's murder, attempted murder or a sex offense.

So with most employers you're at a disadvantage to have a juvenile felony in the state of Ohio, and most likely still won't get the job if you say you've never been convicted of a felony, despite that being the truth.


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Re: need help from a fellow convict... [Re: D.M.T]
    #21705967 - 05/21/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Your right, not everyone will like me. So my answer to those select people is Fuck off.

I'm actually working on a degree for forensic accounting if ya know what that is.

One famous felon that they made a movie after is now hired by the fbi on the regular.
Frank abignale Jr.
Check him out.


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