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i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends?
#21700811 - 05/20/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do they mix well?
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700828 - 05/20/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did them before, they do and don't?
.1 of 20x and like 30 mg of dmt.
They seemed to synergize but being on an alien spaceship being probed saying it's fine settle down you'll be okay we are checking in on you was a tad freaky.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21700845 - 05/20/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to drop some DMT on plain home grown salvia leaves for smoking in a bong so that the DMT didn't melt into the bong water. I liked it, brought me into candy land. Everything looked new and had this candy like colors if you know what I mean. Never went into hyperspace though. Also never tried it with salvia extract might be a little too much as AA says.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Dekozn]
#21700865 - 05/20/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I really wanna try salvia actually but im afraid il have a bad trip like most of the reports ive read seem to indicate its easier to have a bad one than a good one and now im just afraid because i might have one because im predispositioned
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700873 - 05/20/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you take it seriously, abstain from other drugs for a bit and get into meditation, then try some sublingual salvia with said meditation you will probably have a blast.
Though dosing sublingually is harden since you have to chew the leaves up and let the juices absorb over time, takes some effort and lasts longer, but is mellower.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700876 - 05/20/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aside from the combo, I've had my MOST spiritually enlightening expereinces from salvia alone.
If you have a good intention, and really really want to experience what's beyond the veil, salvia trumps DMT imo (Ive done DMT at least 20x more than salvia)
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700889 - 05/20/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most people are gonna cut me down for saying this but you could drink yourself a little tipsy (not drunk but just a little tipsy) before smoking salvia. It'll help you letting go and take away some of the stress. Also don't over do it the first times, don't take those extreme high 50x extracts or what have you. Maybe start out with 5x or 10x.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Angel_Above]
#21700891 - 05/20/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok im gonna do it ive heard that dmt there is a "breakthrough" and if dont hit that breakthrough the trip is totally different but you want to breakthrough because anything less than that is not as good is salvia the same? Im gonna go to a smoke shop tomorrow hopefully i can just find some leaf i dont really wanna try the extracts first any advice on this matter?
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700893 - 05/20/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also im not a huge fan of the drunk feeling but i could maybe smoke a bowl?
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700894 - 05/20/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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And i know theres a shop here that sells 600x like wtf exactly how potent is that? O.o
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#21700899 - 05/20/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Zuto18 said: And i know theres a shop here that sells 600x like wtf exactly how potent is that? O.o
That's ridiculous. You'll break through if you look at it hard enough.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: TopPmz]
#21700910 - 05/20/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: If you take it seriously, abstain from other drugs for a bit and get into meditation, then try some sublingual salvia with said meditation you will probably have a blast.
Though dosing sublingually is harden since you have to chew the leaves up and let the juices absorb over time, takes some effort and lasts longer, but is mellower.
And this might be perfect i do 30 min of breathing meditation every day and i havnt had a cigarette in 2 weeks and i think the lasttime i had weed was last week when i had literaly imho the best acid ive ever had the pleasure of dropping the dude put one drop on a marshmellow i watched him do it cuz i had to buy the marshmellows (sall rite aid really had) he wanted to drop it on a stick of gum and i was like uh-uh no siree i aint swallowin that shit lolQuote:
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Zuto18 said: And i know theres a shop here that sells 600x like wtf exactly how potent is that? O.o
That's ridiculous. You'll break through if you look at it hard enough.
Lol
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700911 - 05/20/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've heard people refer to salvia as dmts evil little sister.
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Sounds kinky lol ^
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700922 - 05/20/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you don't like alcohol then definitely don't drink (but like I said you shouldn't be drunk just tipsy or giggly). I've never smoked weed before Salvia I kept it for after to mellow me out if the trip was to intense. And yeah I always had strange feelings (physically) if I hadn't a break through but on the other hand I got freaked out a few times when I over did it. But if you're going for plain leaves you might wanne take musiclover's advice. I never had a breakthrough with plain leaves but like I said they where homegrown, there might be a big potentie difference between oaxaca and european leaves.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700941 - 05/20/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have had very pleasant experiences mixing salvia and cannabis but you should try experiencing it on its own first most likely.
People definitely "break through" on salvia and I have read meditation can make the experience much more pleasant and less chaotic.
I would highly recommend avoiding extracts honestly, many seem to have pretty negative energy to them. Who knows how they are made or by who, just to sell for profit.
They are basically a bad trip waiting to happen if you ask me though I am biased. I heard a story from a friend who smoked some of an extract and had contact with the savia spirit, who basically scolded him for giving his money to and therefor supporting people who were taking her physical body and extracting it with chemicals for a profit.
I made my own salvia extract once though and actually had a very mild but pleasant experience smoking a small amount of it, going to try more someday.
Something about some of the store bought ones just seems wrong though. I am sure some are locally made by some caring people and are not what I am talking about but not around here, at least that I know of. Another friend of mine thought he died one time smoking 80x salvia with me and another friend. That was the one time I tried storebought extract and it was very unpleasant.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Dekozn]
#21700943 - 05/20/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kinda wanna grow my own salvia thataway it might be more forgiving ive always had way more better trips (never had a bad expirience with shrooms really) from home grown shrooms than bought ones and i assume its because the ones i grow "know me" kinda hard to explain but thats the feeling i get...
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21700952 - 05/20/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is crazy how things work like that
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: musiclover420]
#21700983 - 05/20/15 02:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I honestly believe that plants (and fungi) have their own consciousness and that by growing them and spending time with them you can bond with them and just like when you spend alot of time with a car or something you name it and you project your own consciousness onto them giving them pesonality maybe the plants and fungi "share" their consciousness with us in a simalar mannar when we ingest them and there psycoactive chemicals is where their memories feelings and what have you are stored and since those chemicals are compadible with our brains the memories/feelings are in a sense shared
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
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That ^ was a very interesting thought process lol i have no idea where that came from lol
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21701071 - 05/20/15 03:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't understand why people need to extract salvia. I get the most intense visual and spiritual experience from the leaves alone. I started growing it in 1997 when it was still underground and hadn't been sold commercially yet. It does more for me than any amount of psilocybin or lsd but not as fun. You're supposed to ask the plant spirit questions about your life to get a useful response. If I didn't ask, sometimes the trip would consist of myself waiting in a line of infinite versions of myself in a visually repetitious view of my own shoulders. If I smoke it in light things get weird. It's best to do in the dark to avoid your subconscious being affected by corporate logos drilling their trace patterns into your consciousness and affecting how you think about reality. I have never been able to take more than 2 bong hits in a row.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: Zuto18]
#21701078 - 05/20/15 03:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you are good friends with both, chances are the three of you will get along fine.
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I understand that idea. I have seen it happen in the interactions of the things that collect upon my desk. Such as I have a drawing leaning up for me to view and at its lower part is a poppy (drawing) . I have a note of numbers I use in my record keeping and some are scribbled out since they have been recorded into my log elsewhere. Yet the position of the lines from the random scribble, lines up exactly with the flowers, as if the roots and if I follow the roots, they lead to the ball point pens on the desk. Is a clear transition from several dimensions made by the apparent life of the actions going on without my participation or up until now knowledge
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People each are effected very different by it, I have had moderate effects from leaves but only if I smoke a lot, which takes time and effort and isn't too pleasant.
Hence my personal interest in extractions, simple non toxic ones though of course.
I want to try and find the micron size screen that could collect salvia trichomes wouldn't that be some crazy net level stuff?
Salvia water wax, I have been pondering if screens would be feasible for awhile now. One day I may test it
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: musiclover420]
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For me, personally, not going far enough with DMT calls for more DMT, and the same with Salvia.
They are two distinct realms.
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Re: i wonder salvia and dmt are they friends? [Re: musiclover420]
#21701198 - 05/20/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: People each are effected very different by it, I have had moderate effects from leaves but only if I smoke a lot, which takes time and effort and isn't too pleasant.
Hence my personal interest in extractions, simple non toxic ones though of course.
I want to try and find the micron size screen that could collect salvia trichomes wouldn't that be some crazy net level stuff?
Salvia water wax, I have been pondering if screens would be feasible for awhile now. One day I may test it

I've seen people take dozens of bong rips beside me without any effect whatsoever. They always thought I was smoking a placebo. They tended to be ex opiate addicted individuals. I know salvia has some interaction with the mu receptors, so I could see a link. I honestly haven't used it for years, and I've had bad opiate addictions since then. I want to try it again to see if my theory seems to hold up. I always grew my own so I'd want to do that as well, since my plants were always 100 times healthier than anyone else's. They literally grew a few inches per day and I got leaves as large as 18". Most leaves were in the 12" range.
I actually LOVE the flavor of salvia smoked in a bong or a pipe. I almost wish it wasn't so psychoactive just so I could comfortably smoke it for relaxation. It's the ONLY plant I enjoy smoking except good herb. Back in the days before medical herb, I was always trying to find herbs that were enjoyable to smoke, but never found any. It was common to run out of herb for a few weeks while waiting for friends to finish their grows or smoke Mexican garbage. Smoking Mexican was an insult since we had the finest strains EVER and had given up our cheap connections for mex quantity.
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