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navigating choices by examining feelings
    #21700213 - 05/19/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i think a neat way of seeing how different choices and attitudes affect us is by examining the immediate feeling you have when you employ the choice/attitude. choices which lead to greater freedom and happiness will usually feel expansive and elevating as you engage them - whereas choices that lead to lower states will feel contractive and feel like they diminish your love. with negative choices, there seems to be a dissonance felt in the heart, at least for me. if i'm in tune enough and slow down, it becomes very easy to feel into what a choice is doing to me energetically. i feel this is like an inherent GPS system built into our being, being guided by our higher mind and intuition.

what do you guys feel about this? as an experiment if you want, try to feel into your answer as you write it and see where it's leading you energetically :smile: is it expansive or is it contractive ? :smile:


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Re: navigating choices by examining feelings [Re: deff]
    #21702231 - 05/20/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Very good post :smile:

Last night I mentally composed (not having seen this thead) close along the lines of:

If you want to get enlightened, connect with enlightened people;
thanks to the universe now, that's very possible to do,
it once again all depends on your power of discernment,

can you feel the energy. . . ? that tells you everything.


and I also half-planned to create a thead called Contraction and Expansion... 

J.C. Lilly's ECCO is a very interesting plausibility.

I'm reminded of Niezsche once saying, 'I'm working on things only maybe 6 people in the world are working on'. . . Nowadays, almost everyone is aware of the real issues.

The idea of sensing energies, how our actions relate to this, is very beautiful and effective; as Hanh writes, "At every moment we have a choice to go closer to our spirit or further away from it," it's very true.

I've always been exceedingly sensitive to energies around me, and my own.. after I understood all this, and reached self-mastery, I knew it is only a benefit, to be able to receive more of the information that's available to us, at any moment.

Extra-sensory. 

As Goethe writes, every word and action echoes throughout infinity. . . So it makes sense to choose words wisely, or say very little.


Needless to say, I have nothing but positive things to say about this process, of increasing one's awareness of energies; it's very possible with a little practice to be quite adept at tasting the flavors, so to speak, of everything you see and hear.

Joy and light and warmth and peace, these are the most powerful and transforming of emotions, I would say.


A certain degree of non-attachment or non-clinging is very useful as well, as this can, when developed, bring strength and immunity,


"As rain penetrates
The poorly thatched dwelling,
So passion penetrates
The untended mind.

As rain does not penetrate
The well-thatched dwelling,
So passion does not penetrated
The well-tended mind."

-Dhammapada, the Pairs,

Other translations include well-developed, well-disciplined, etc.

https://books.google.com/books?id=pvOk7_lCSSQC&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=rain+on+a+well+thatched+roof+dhammapada&source=bl&ots=dg-tromW-k&sig=u7MqArya1HDcd4LeuADXqNBeTUs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WNBcVYv5OdDfggSjq4HgAw&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=rain%20on%20a%20well%20thatched%20roof%20dhammapada&f=false


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Re: navigating choices by examining feelings [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21702370 - 05/20/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

My check is more mental than emotional - although it ends up hitting my emotions

Like for example I recently got into an argument with my dad - and for part of it we "shared" stuff - whereas I asked him about his drug history which he thought he didn't need to share while trying to impose strict drug rules. He shared a lot and liked that experience. We were still having that argument because he fucked up hard - and I had to change the focus. I also got a little heated over some things he said/his tone (I typically have a lot less patience with my parents [I know that sounds bad but there are many, many reasons, and I've tried to help but it's not possible])

Well he said "can we just go back to sharing? I really enjoyed that"

I said no, that's not why we're here


I felt pretty bad after - removing his sense of pleasure. It was also on his birthday. I really DIDN'T want to check in on his stuff and see but my mom was convinced something was up and I had to give her the benefit of the doubt rather than just saying she's wrong (which she assumed I said and ran away)


But I felt bad mentally before I felt bad emotionally. I realized that I took away his happiness in that situation and then I felt bad. Maybe theres just a block still between my conscious and subconscious, and if there is it's likely to do with the way I deal with my parents - which just honestly isn't going to change in the next year

I need to move on from toxic environments in order to find myself completely and not have these possibilities for guilt. There really is no winning with my parents unless you let go of your attachments though - and they separated my attachments for me.

By the way I really don't wanna hear people say "you shouldn't talk to your dad like that" because people always do when I post this type of stuff. We have a weird relationship that I'm not getting deep into with this post. If you really want to know if I'm justified or not I'm happy to answer questions


EDIT: I forgot to add that the entire confrontation was for the good of the whole family, him, my mom, and especially my little brother. It was for the greater good but I still felt bad that I did it.

RESOLUTION: Expand my patience


BACK TO THE TOPIC: Theres an extremely rewarding feel I get when I create. When I lay down many small parts that fit together to make a masterpiece. I don't know if I do anything that feels at all as good as that. Nothing else really feels fufilling to that degree, nothing I do with my friends, or for others, or anything. Except when I "master" a new spiritual "trick"


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Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.




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Re: navigating choices by examining feelings [Re: glimpee]
    #21702643 - 05/20/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

We know deep within the right choices but it depends most times on external factors in order to be accomplished. I try to foresee the results of my choices before but it is hard anyway.


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Re: navigating choices by examining feelings [Re: Thaj]
    #21702911 - 05/20/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Thaj said:
We know deep within the right choices but it depends most times on external factors in order to be accomplished. I try to foresee the results of my choices before but it is hard anyway.




IImagine if instead of being called the 7 deadly sins they were called the 7 virtues or man, passed on as being good. Followers of Christianity would likely follow those virtues (unless they were still not committed enough to question/disagree) and pass them on. Man would likely condone these actions over time and there might be a huge difference between the good and evil we know now and the good and evil that would exist in that world. I think our ideas of right and wrong have to do with how we're taught - and most people are taught the same general virtues early on which they judge all their actions on.

That said - it is a reality that good and evil and for the most part agreed upon. There have been tribes of cannibals/viscous murders who thought their actions were ok because it was ok in their culture

At the same time people who do "wrong" are often repressing their "good" so it's hard to say definitively what is good or evil and what is natural to man


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Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.




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Re: navigating choices by examining feelings [Re: glimpee]
    #21705706 - 05/21/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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