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jerseyian
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azures and cyans failure?
#21699491 - 05/19/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey guys. I know I posted a bunch of post's on azures and cyans, the wood lovers. Well I got the mycelium t to grow fine and transferred them outside. It's been about 2 weeks and I have been watering them every day cuz it's hot here and dries out in about half a day. I pulled up the wood from the cyans and a lot of the grain with the mycelium was rotten. Some did survive but only on the pieces I put on cardboard. So I put more cardboard to see if the little remaining mycelium might survive. Also I am going to stop watering so much as I am sure the was part of the problem. Any suggestions? The azures are not looking good. There was very little myc left. Can anyone help?
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#21699562 - 05/19/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can you elaborate further on what you did exactly? Feel free to go into detail.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: RyeJar]
#21699578 - 05/19/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rot = too wet
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: Ghatti]
#21813815 - 06/16/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ugh I thought they lived where it rains every day? I do have some bleaching of the wood in spots now and there are spots where I can see myc. It's small but it's a start. Going to reintroduce fresh mycelium and make sure I don't over water. I basically shredded a shit ton of wood and put my mycelium into the pile.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#21813833 - 06/16/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you don't have to water really until the patch is fully consolidated. put a tarp over it and let it get to where it can support itself. once fully colonized and fruiting conditions are correct (mid-late autumn) you can start worrying about watering if there is no rainfall.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: Sksoul]
#21815692 - 06/16/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sksoul said: you don't have to water really until the patch is fully consolidated. put a tarp over it and let it get to where it can support itself. once fully colonized and fruiting conditions are correct (mid-late autumn) you can start worrying about watering if there is no rainfall.
Azurescens don't really like piles of wood chips. They prefer this environment:
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#21815952 - 06/16/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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jerseyian said: Ugh I thought they lived where it rains every day?
Dirt in WA isn't the same as dirt in NJ. Different draining characteristics.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: coffeehead]
#21817471 - 06/17/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see. So died plant material. Says they like lingen rich spots.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21817475 - 06/17/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How should it be? I would think rich soil. Humus type. I didn't just throw sand on it..lol.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#21817485 - 06/17/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I forgot to ask. Are the pieces of bleaching wood however small they are is a good sign that the myc is still alive in there?
Btw...I want to shoot the rock head who told me to make sure sure my pile stayed good and wet. I'm thinking could they not have been JUST a little more specific? But. ..That said... That is how we learn.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#22014969 - 07/29/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok. I started a new azure patch. I want to keep it slightly damp and covered while colonizing correct? I way over soaked my last bunch and ro\ed them as I thought it rained quite o3 where they are from.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#22016747 - 07/29/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would have started with ps alleni instead of azure or cyans. Although they have basically the same growth parameters, the alleni is much more aggressive and adaptive to more environments. Plus, the alleni are considered more potent than cyans.
I would water which ever species you decide to grow a couple times a week when temps are over 90 degrees. Twice a week if it's less than that. Once a week once it cools off and until fall. The wood chips should not be any deeper than 3 inches. 2-3 inches seem best for me. I have seen them thrive in 10+ inches but it's rare.
Don't use too much spawn. It will die and the grain will contaminate. You want the mycelium to grow away from the grain before it does die. What type of wood chips do you use? Scotts nature scapes work really well. Do not confuse this'd with the less expensive Scotts grow mulch.
You can also call your local landscaping supply and ask them if they have Douglas fir chips. They usually do. The second runner up is the reclaimed wood chips. They are made from old pallets and building material. Which on the west coast is mostly Douglas fir.
I would really consider contacting sporeworks for an alleni print. They have them even if not shown on their site. It's the most aggressive wood lover there is.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#22018554 - 07/30/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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coffeehead said:
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Sksoul said: you don't have to water really until the patch is fully consolidated. put a tarp over it and let it get to where it can support itself. once fully colonized and fruiting conditions are correct (mid-late autumn) you can start worrying about watering if there is no rainfall.
Azurescens don't really like piles of wood chips. They prefer this environment:

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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#22020101 - 07/30/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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A tarp is a bad idea. You will cook it and suffocate it. You do have to water it if the chips are not staying moist. Mycelium will not colonize dry material.
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Re: azures and cyans failure? [Re: jerseyian]
#22020150 - 07/30/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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jerseyian said: Hey guys. I know I posted a bunch of post's on azures and cyans, the wood lovers. Well I got the mycelium t to grow fine and transferred them outside. It's been about 2 weeks and I have been watering them every day cuz it's hot here and dries out in about half a day. I pulled up the wood from the cyans and a lot of the grain with the mycelium was rotten. Some did survive but only on the pieces I put on cardboard. So I put more cardboard to see if the little remaining mycelium might survive. Also I am going to stop watering so much as I am sure the was part of the problem. Any suggestions? The azures are not looking good. There was very little myc left. Can anyone help?
give it time and what i like to do is pile tons of wet foliage on top, this cuts back the need to water while letting them breathe and keeping a good temp
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