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twotoejoe
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ACRB Goo
#21698934 - 05/19/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hope all is well with everyone. enjoy the pic!

An extraction was done following thick light's tek. Experimenting with each pull. One so far is recrystallizing, another after pulling was redissolved into fresh naptha (more yellowish), the last little bit was just what came out of the room temp drop out which cooled about 25min (brownish orange). Only been experimenting with half of my ACRB concentrate. Can never get crystals to stay crystals though even though that's what the Tek always describes(just not fast enough?), but one does realize that one is not removing all the impurities that can be with a wash. No matter its the goo that's the goal! Might do a wash on the second half of the concentrate.
Does anyone elses goo ever come out brown like that? had it before smokes great just a huge body load.
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Yea I've gotten it. I would think about cutting that up and letting it dry out further if possible.
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twotoejoe
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Thanks for the tip. How do you cut up goo though? Its a bitch to manage. Freeze it then chop?
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TheGreenArrow
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I'd chop it up on piece of glass and let the air get to it. Missing it up and chopping more each time. Either that or go with a straight up recrystallization.
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I recommend doing a mini A/B on the naptha you pulled from the initial basic solution. ACRB has some plant fats and impurities that are soluble in warm naptha. I found that the naptha from my initial pulls to be very yellow. Looks like cloudy piss. For this reason you do a mini A/B on the yellow naptha. The DMT goes back into the acidified solution, then you suck the yellow naptha back off the top. Basify and pull 5 more times like you did the first time around.
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twotoejoe
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Thank you both for your shared wisdom. Yea I more than likely will end up doing the mini A/B!
Quick question why is it that whenever one dries the precipitate it is always in a cool area? Like why not next to an open window where naptha evaporate more easily? Or would sunlight have a negative effect? Or is it just the amount of time for the precipitate to consolidate?
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Hmm doesn't look too good tbh, I would be afraid to smoke that goo. And it looks really thick, like it's not going to crystallize anytime soon even with scraping around. I see a third patch of slightly yellow-clear goo in the picture, on the right side of the blade, below the yellow goo. That's the only kind of goo I like to see, a honey color.
Sorry I can't be more helpful.
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Re: ACRB Goo [Re: Icon]
#21699970 - 05/19/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did some experimenting and just freeze precipitated the yellow naptha. I had similar looking goo. I evaporated the naptha in an hour or two and sampled the goo through a rig. It was great. Didn't taste or smell the best compared to the crystal, but it certainly worked! Had a different effect than the crystal, but still very pleasant.
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get a metal pan or just a pot. Fill with water and put it on the stove..on low heat.
get a glass cup. Put a little bit of naptha in the cup and put the goo in the cup as well. put the cup in the pot of water and wait for it to warm up.
the naptha will warm up and then you mix around the goo. When the goo is dissolved, take everything off the stove and out the naptha in the freezer to get crystals.
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That's not going to guarantee crystals at all. If you freeze precipitate naptha with loads of oils and plant fats you aren't going to get very much crystal formation at all, and there is a good chance the crystals melt at room temp back into goo. Naptha pulls a full spectrum extract from ACRB, which is why the mini A/B is so critical to success.
Both extractions were done with 50g of ACRB from the same batch using the same process, except one without the mini A/B for cleanup.
1. Freeze precipitating naptha before the mini A/B:
200mg crystal

800mg goo

2. Clean up using the mini A/B. The little tint of yellow you see was the goo was scraped from the bottom of the pan. I could easily re-x this with hexane to clean that up even further but it's not worth the effort IMO.
Yield was a little over 1g, 2% yield.

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I prefer the yellow crystals actually.
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I tried them both. The goo was definitely awesome and took me to space just the same except the body load was much heavier. Crystals are fun though and really cool to look at. I felt much more accomplished when making crystal vs. goo.
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Quote:
TheGreenArrow said: I prefer the yellow crystals actually.
Same here.
The high seems to have more substance and quality to it.
White DMT Is very "light" and colorless.
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daytripper05 said: That's not going to guarantee crystals at all.
it works for me 
the idea is leaving the goo behind in the cup.
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Your yield is going to suffer quite a bit. That goo still has DMT in it along with other actives. By doing the mini A/B you get much more crystal without losing the precious yield and literally throw away the oils and fats. I saw in another thread you mentioning having lower yields. If it's not the bark, then that's definitely the issue.
But anyways, the guy was asking why he wasn't getting crystals and how to get more. I posted why along with some visible results of the differences in the process. Wasn't trying to get into whether or not the yellow crystals was better, but just how to get more crystal and better yields. 
FWIW, it's nice to be able to have a process to have a choice to get goo or crystal, depending on what you want it for. I think I'll make more goo for changa and vaporize the crystal. Another cool thing you can do with the crystal is convert is to DMT fumerate and have an oral version for pharmahuasca. OP, if you want the goo then more power to you. I love the goo as well. Love the auditory hallucinations and body load on the goo. Literally feels like death.
Edited by daytripper05 (05/19/15 10:36 PM)
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twotoejoe
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thank you all for your responses! Decided to put all the goo into a little bit of naptha dissolve it and do the mini A/B bath. I did smoke some of the brown goo before that. Again very pleasant just super body load.
daytripper05 thanks for the visuals those are excellent references.
Will post final product when I get to it in the morning or tomorrow morning depending on schedule!
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twotoejoe
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Re: ACRB Goo [Re: Icon]
#21700433 - 05/19/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icon said: Hmm doesn't look too good tbh, I would be afraid to smoke that goo. And it looks really thick, like it's not going to crystallize anytime soon even with scraping around. I see a third patch of slightly yellow-clear goo in the picture, on the right side of the blade, below the yellow goo. That's the only kind of goo I like to see, a honey color.
Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Yea I tried the honey colored too. That big yellow part is just a blob of yellow cooled down. Same stuff just ws colder than that goop your referring too.
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daytripper05 said: Your yield is going to suffer quite a bit. That goo still has DMT in it along with other actives. By doing the mini A/B you get much more crystal without losing the precious yield and literally throw away the oils and fats. I saw in another thread you mentioning having lower yields. If it's not the bark, then that's definitely the issue.
But anyways, the guy was asking why he wasn't getting crystals and how to get more. I posted why along with some visible results of the differences in the process. Wasn't trying to get into whether or not the yellow crystals was better, but just how to get more crystal and better yields. 
FWIW, it's nice to be able to have a process to have a choice to get goo or crystal, depending on what you want it for. I think I'll make more goo for changa and vaporize the crystal. Another cool thing you can do with the crystal is convert is to DMT fumerate and have an oral version for pharmahuasca. OP, if you want the goo then more power to you. I love the goo as well. Love the auditory hallucinations and body load on the goo. Literally feels like death.
my low-ish yields had nothing to do with my process of turning goo into crystal. I have since fixed my issue.
I don't know anybody that would WANT the goo. bt hey if you like the heavy bodyload and feeling like death then more power to ya 
the goo is as good as garbage, IMO.
and why would you need fumerate for pharmahuasca?
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there is nothing wrong with goo,I have no idea why the obsession with pretty looking crystals,
just dissolve the goo in IPA,add caapi/harmalas/ and you have changa
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Re: ACRB Goo [Re: Elff]
#21701424 - 05/20/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Considering you used used acacia, it has more fats and oils than mimosa which results in more goo.
You also keep mentioning a strong body load, that is also probably attributed to the accacia because acacia also has NMT which adds a little twist of its own as well as the body load.
Re-x as most people are telling you to get more pure crystals.
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