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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: Suspector]
#21698967 - 05/19/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: You may be like me. I don't get high from edibles... like.. at all. I've eaten the most dankest edibles, that people say one HALF of it makes them blazed as fuck for like 10 hr straight.. I will eat THREE or FOUR and barely catch a buzz. It happens with every edible I try. Most I get is like... a very light body buzz. Doesn't really matter how dank it is or how much I eat. I talk to other people that eat the same edibles, and they get completely and utterly fried for hours and hours off the same stuff I eat. I don't understand it. But I've just determined that edibles are an utter waste of weed for me. I can smoke a bowl and get plenty high. I can eat a tray of brownies and get almost nothing. Eating it is just a waste of weed. Maybe you are a freak like me.. have my metabolism, or liver or whatever the fuck it is.
Eating is definitely a different high than smoking it.. it's more of a body high and it lasts way longer. I get a slight body high, but I've never been "fucked up" off eating it like people talk about and I've eaten a FUCKING LOT. I want to melt into the couch and not wake up for 12 hours, but that never happens when eating it ever. I get a super light buzz and can still function perfectly and it doesn't last for shit. I smoke the shit so I don't waste it.
I have eaten the brownies 10 times. Only 2 times the high was ridiculously intense. So much so I got paranoid. It just so happens my friend made the brownies the two times I got too high, off a 3 inch, by 3 inch brownie.
Trust me when I say, you did not have dank brownies and the person who put alot of dank into creating the brownies fucked up. If you had the brownies me and my cousin had, and we normally smoked a half ounce a week each, you would of felt way too stoned. Maybe I will fetch the exact recipe, or way he did things because again, the 8 other times my buddies followed 'protocol' from online intructions, the brownies sucked ass. there is a unique way to go about this.
Joe Rogan did a segment, he said he doesn't eat pot brownies from people he meets because they all think he is a warrior, he says the potency in some of these brownies is off the charts and he simply cannot handle it. He had to quit accepting edibles because of that reason.That is coming from someone who indulges in hallucinogens
Yeah you don't really know what you are talking about. I've been smoking weed for about ~18 years. I've been trying edibles for almost as long. I'm not talking about one or two incidents, I'm talking about the hundreds of times I've eaten every possible kind of edible known to man and never gotten more than a mild body buzz. I knew a grower who made the dankest brownies everyone warned about.. only eat half they said.. everyone gets completely wasted off just half of one they said.. don't have anything scheduled for the next 18 hours they said. I ate three and barely even caught a buzz. I can eat four times as much as anyone else and don't even get 1/10th of the level they do. I've eaten the all the high-grade supposedly 'ultra potent' medicinal edibles from the dispensaries.. same shit. I've eaten more 1-2g firecrackers than I want to think about that were an utter waste of weed. Ganja butter of the highest caliber... cooked in all kinds of different food. Hash oil food.. it doesn't matter. I don't have just a couple of isolated experiences from people who don't know what they are doing. I've eaten it in every different form. Literally, Every. Single. Edible. I've. Ever. Eaten. Same thing. Anyone who says they were just shitty edibles doesn't know what they are talking about. I'm talking about very experienced growers and ganja bakers making SUPER potent creations that everyone else warns against. They annihilate everyone else.. but not me Even without a tolerance, I've taken tolerance breaks in the past and still edibles don't really do much.
Like someone said, different people have different body chemistries. It effects people differently. Edibles just do not do it for me.
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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: SunnyD]
#21699007 - 05/19/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Daddyzomed said: edibles can also be 5hrs of severe panic attacks, where your whole body is violently buzzzzing numb thinking your truly dieing

I was a noob, But edibles have more relaxing and euphoric properties to me
reminds me of my sisters first time getting high.... she ate half a pot cookie i gave her and i warned her about these cause they were crazy strong. i also told her she should smoke her first time, but of course she's not gonna listen to her older pot head, poly drug abusing brother 
i go to her room to see how she's doing a while after she told me she ate half and she is all curled up in her bed with this scared look in her eyes holding a glass of orange juice. it was sooo fucking funny. she's all like "i feel like i'm gonna die" and i start laughing even harder, which apparently helped her out a bit. she probably realized i was laughing at how ridiculous that sounded. dinner was so great. she barely said a word and ate sooo much more than anyone that night, and she does not each much and is super skinny. my mom goes up to her and i see my sister get a lil scared that our mom is coming up to her, but our mom says something like "good job, you ate a lot of food! you never eat this much, you should, you need to gain weight" and walks away. my sister looked so relieved afterwards.
but yeah, she said she got really anxious and it was way too much. she handled that shit like a boss though. now she smokes a bunch and loves the edible high
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I hadn't ingested weed since 1975 & I wasn't that impressed with it then. Nowadays? Holy shit!! A grower pal of mine from out West sent me 2 dozen brownies last Christmas. I ate 2 of them & got higher, lasting about 8 hours, than I've been in a long time. Eating weed is the way to go, as long as the 1 preparing it knows what they're doing. In fact, I'd take eating weed over smoking it just because of the length of the high & the intensity of it.
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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: squidhead]
#21699152 - 05/19/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are some awesome stories in this thread!
Thanks for sharing everyone 
Here is my contribution:
One time when I was younger after reading about the psychedelic and entheogenic properties of cannabis that I had never really sought I decided to have a sort of "canna ritual" which absicaly consisted of me and 3 friends ingesting as many cannabinoids as we possibly could.
I am talking edibles with butter/has and oil in them, ganja tea with tincture and butter it was straight up green, and we smoked copious amounts all night.
By the end I was straight up seeing mandalas, I looked at one of my friends and said something/ asked if he was seeing stuff and he gave me a nod. It ended with all 4 of us falling asleep on the same couch sitting up next to each other, all with our shoes still on

Most of us couldn't move much for the last couple hours of the night.
The best part? One of my friends decided to meet up with these 2 girls one of which he started dating. So as we are coming up on some edibles he leads us on a couple mile walk to this chicks house so we can walk them back to my house they smoked with us a bit but wouldn't eat anything, which may have been smart becouse I have seen girls flip. I had one girls mom confront me about doing "heroin" with her daughter, but when I explained it was just ganja brownies she actually took one when I offered! anyways thats a different story.
So we get back to my house with the girls and proceed to start ingesting more while they smoke little bits with us and chat. At that point I personally could't talk much so it was a pretty funny/ awkward time. At one point the friend who brought them over spilled a big full jar of bright green ganja tea all over one of the girls and her school bag/ books. It was hilarious, they started dating eventually too which I always thought made it even funnier.
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UPDATE:
The night before last, I did a little experiment. Like I said earlier in this here thread, edibles have little to no effect on me. So, I get an 1/8 of freshly ground Green Dream and put it in an aluminum pie pan and sealed the top with aluminum foil and sealed the edges down as air tight as I could get it. With oven preheated to 230 degrees, I placed the pie pan on the center rack and let bake for one hour and fifty minutes. The pan was then removed from the oven and cooled for 30 minutes, leaving the foil lid on. After cooling, I melted 1/12 a stick of butter in a pan and added the herbage and proceeded to make cannibutter. I then added the butter to a small amount of blonde brownie mixture I had whipped up, which I put onto a cookie sheet and ended up with a cookie about 10 inches in diameter.
When the cookie was done, I consumed a 1/4 of it and in 30 minutes I was higher than Cooter Brown.
Edited by Dilsnique (05/21/15 12:58 PM)
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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: Dilsnique]
#21706816 - 05/21/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I make edibles a brownie with about 0.3 gram of good biohaze gets me super stoned, like semi tripping. I usually have zero tolerance.
A while ago my friend who took the same brownie did not really get stoned at all. He said he lay awake for hours with great ideas for some kinda project pissing off his gf cause he wouldn't shut up about it 
I do have to say that I usually get highest on the nights that I bake them cause I am licking out the pots and pans. If I take edibles a couple of nights in a row the high quickly diminishes and I turn into some kinda zombie during the day.
-------------------- Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros... A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.

Edited by Tripsurfer (05/21/15 03:24 PM)
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Godfather1376 said: no one really mention's decarb'ing oil or bud before infusing in fats. there are quite a few studies on it now.
http://www.hightimes.com/read/edibles-scoop-decarboxylation
http://www.thestonerscookbook.com/article/2014/06/27/decarboxylate-your-weed-for-the-full-psychoactive-effect/
if you don't decarb the oil/bud, the inactive form of THC doesn't turn into active THC. When you smoke or vape, you turn it all into active THC once it gets hit with heat. But with making edibles you need to pre-heat the material BEFORE you put it in butter or coconut oil. The high times one says researchers found it best to decarb at "230F for 110 minutes" to get it all evenly heated, and the stonerscookbook article has almost too detailed of a chart.
This.
You have to decarb the bud. It works best as a separate step, aside from food preparation because you can be certain of exactly how hot the weed got and how long it stayed there.
I crumble my stuff, wrap in a piece of foil, and bake in a preheated oven. 250F for 30 minutes does the trick.
So the first part is decarb. You better understand the process or you are just wasting marijuana.
The second part of making good edibles is absorbtion. You have to get the fat soluble THC into something that will allow it to be efficiently absorbed. This includes diffusing it into butter/oil, or high proof alcohol.
I just put my decarbed bud into 150 proof Everclear. 1 fluid oz (30 ml) of Everclear per gram of bud. Then I use a 10 ml spore syringe to measure it. Each 10ml is equivalent to 1/3 of a gram of bud. That 1/3 gram dose gets me pretty damned high and around or above 1/2 gram (15ml) will have me practically incapacitated for like 8 hours.
The good thing about making a solution is that you can have it already prepared and just squirt some into a drink or coffee or tea or whatever if you decide you want some.
But seriously, you cannot just throw a bunch of weed in some recipe and expect it to work. You have to understand both decarboxylation and how to make THC absorb well in order to make a good edible.
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Also, edibles are so strong because the THC gets converted to some super strong metabolite, Delta-11-THC or something like that. This occurs immediately upon absorption in the liver if I recall. This metabolite is something like 7 to 10 times stronger than even active THC. That is why you can be stoned all day off of so little herb.
I'm sure I botched the details as it has been a while since I looked at the information, but the point is that some people may not efficiently metabolize THC into this much more potent form. Perhaps they have slightly different enzymes of something. This could be why some people get high as hell and other don't from the exact same edibles.
Edit: The conversion to the potent metabolite doesn't occur in the same way when smoking, so as long as your body has the proper enzymes and you know how to make them, edibles can be much more efficient than smoking. Again, straight up baked for 6 to 8 hrs from 1/3 gram.
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AllGreyThumbs said:
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Godfather1376 said: no one really mention's decarb'ing oil or bud before infusing in fats. there are quite a few studies on it now.
http://www.hightimes.com/read/edibles-scoop-decarboxylation
http://www.thestonerscookbook.com/article/2014/06/27/decarboxylate-your-weed-for-the-full-psychoactive-effect/
if you don't decarb the oil/bud, the inactive form of THC doesn't turn into active THC. When you smoke or vape, you turn it all into active THC once it gets hit with heat. But with making edibles you need to pre-heat the material BEFORE you put it in butter or coconut oil. The high times one says researchers found it best to decarb at "230F for 110 minutes" to get it all evenly heated, and the stonerscookbook article has almost too detailed of a chart.
This.
You have to decarb the bud.
You really do...
My edibles were always weak before I discovered decarbing. If you ate a gram worth of my edibles with low tolerance you'd probably OD. It takes me 100mg for a strong buzz. All I do is decarb, crumble into powder, mix with peanut butter (around a level tablespoon per gram) and enough veg oil to turn it into a mayo like consistency, then pour it onto a casserole dish to make a thin half cm layer then bake normally. Quarter ounce lasts me a month dosing every day.
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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: Hobozen]
#21709097 - 05/22/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm saving reclaim from my BHO rig, once I get 6 grams of it, I'm making a dozen of something. That'll be .5g of activated oil in every edible.
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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: 28064212]
#21709176 - 05/22/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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28064212 said: Vaporizer has always been my preffered ROA for cannabis
hell yeah me too! 
IMO though smoking weed is the overrated ROA. Like shroomopotumus said we should all eat ganja edibles every days all the time.
The key is to have trim and not use bud, use a ton of it and heat it into the butter nice and slow and for a looooooonnngggggg time. 3-8 hours. The second key is to use 2-3x as much budder as you are supposed to (This applies to cake,pie,cookies, and rice crispies all of which i've tried this with and the extra budder doesn't fuck up the recipe).
IF you have kief. kief. is literally BEST used in butter, not smoking. Its not refined enough to smoke like hash but its also extremely pure and flavorful without all the plant vegatable stuff.
Although i bet eating the plant is healthy everyone strains the butter and throws out the trim.
Edited by Everything (05/22/15 05:21 AM)
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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: Everything]
#21709188 - 05/22/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just crumble about 5 grams of good quality bud into about 100 grams coconut oil and heat that au-bain-marie for about an hour. I often just let it sit for a day and use it the next night in a standard brownie mix.
About 0.3 grams pretty much incapacitates me for hours
-------------------- Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros... A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.

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Re: Eating Pot Overrated? [Re: Tripsurfer]
#21709216 - 05/22/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The other day i was a bout to buy a brownie with 1,000mg,it would kick even a season toner/danger out imo.
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