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Mushrooms for awful addiction?
    #21696217 - 05/18/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hey everybody :smile:
Was wondering if anybody had any information or tips on how psychedelics impact on addiction?
Basically back story is have been an addict for the last 7 years having started with pot everyday then moving onto meth/ice 5 years ago smoking it everyday for a good portion off that time, finally quitting that but moving onto benzo's (Xanax, valium and clonazepam((By far the worst addiction I have ever faced)everyday for roughly 6 months with broken usage 6 months before that.
Mushroom season has just started here and found a nice patch today, have been clean 3 weeks off everything and am struggling with some serious anxiety post benzo use, and can see a relapse around the corner.

Plan is in a week or two have a trip by myself (tripped on mushrooms roughly 7ish times before and lsd about 5 so have experience) , was wondering what the recommended dosage would be? And how I should go about it? Any more information needed happy to give it.

Reason I am having the trip is because I understand and know the amazing benefits of hallucinogens in all matters off life :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21696279 - 05/18/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

its great for ocd.

i would take a heavy dose in silent darkness alone in my bed, thats how i would get the most benefits from the "reset"


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: SleepyE]
    #21696301 - 05/18/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting method, have never tripped in the darkness before but can image the "reset" you talk about, which is exactly what I am after. No ocd here just bad anxiety due to the abuse off anti anxiety meds. Do psychedelics have an impact on anxiety?


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21696309 - 05/18/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yes. for me it would completely erase my anxiety for a good few weeks.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: SleepyE]
    #21696332 - 05/18/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome defiantly a major bonus, more so focusing on the addiction aspect here though, as the anxiety will heal over time from abstinence. The life long disease of addiction is my main concern, sick and tiered of depending on substances just to make it through a day :frown:


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky] * 1
    #21696372 - 05/18/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yeah they are great for addiction, i dont use anything but weed because i just need something to take a bit of the edge off, but im a rare case.

Ive had a lot of traumatizing experiences so im kind of mentally insane now. turned me schizophrenic. but im a healthy person, do a lot of rigorous weight training so im very healthy physically. but mentally im asylum material.

but dont worry im sure it wasnt because of psychedelics just life :S

Psychedelics have taught me how to endure this with a little more maturity but its still very difficult.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: SleepyE]
    #21696385 - 05/18/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly the beauty of psychedelics, really give's you a new aspect on life, helps you look in from outside the box. So defiantly thinking about a big trip in this case, shall prep for a week and a half with exercise and meditation and cross off a few things that will surely pop up during the trip (cut some loose ends). Shall go for the dark room with the lights off route. Hard drugs are awful really ruin lives once dependence becomes an issue, seen the impacts first hand and don't need to go down that dead end road,


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21696400 - 05/18/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

sounds good :thumbup:


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: SleepyE]
    #21696408 - 05/18/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

They gave me the wisdom to quit meth 17 years ago. If you go in with an open mind and positive attitude, your answers should be revealed to you.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: HaveABeer420] * 1
    #21696422 - 05/18/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Defiantly going in with an open mind and a positive attitude (only way to do it), and see what the shrooms have to offer.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21696429 - 05/18/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

goodluck :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: SleepyE]
    #21696431 - 05/18/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I have an addictive personality and have always been addicted to something. Most of my adult life it has been Ms.MaryJ, my twenties and teens alcohol.

Your going to always be addicted to something bricky. It doesn;t have to be drugs though. Hopefully through a few good trips on shrooms you can dive into

your soul and self examine a little bit, nahh a lot! But you have to want it man, you can't just hope the mushies are going to make the cravings go away.

It's you, it can only be you! The shrooms will guide you if you let them and if they want to, but you have to be listening and willing. You have to let go.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21696460 - 05/18/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

hahahaha couldn't have put it better myself, I am the exact same have such an addictive personality, get addicted to anything that gives my pleasure. And your spot on this is so much more then just hopping to stop taking drugs, that's all up to me, im going to search for a meaning, something to strive for, something to focus my life on and what aspects I can improve, heighten my spirituality which will have a major impact on the addiction. And as long as I can keep focused, drugs will no longer rule my life.

Was also wondering what dosage I should take, how strong off a trip should I look for? Like I said have had experience with a few different levels off tripping


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21696581 - 05/18/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Understanding of addiction is changing, an interesting study recently showed that removing addicted rats from their unpleasant environment to a better place was all it took to get them off cocaine.  ( http://elitedaily.com/news/world/scientists-may-discovered-real-cause-addiction/915030/ )

Moving from one addiction to another is a sign you're running from something.  Find what that is, face it and change it and the urge to destroy yourself will be gone.  Mushrooms are great for helping us see these things, and they can biochemically alleviate the depression and imbalance caused by addiction, but you'll need to be prepared to act upon what the mushrooms show you, do some work and be committed to change if you want to get over your addictions.  Good luck.  :grin:


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21696595 - 05/18/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Have read that study before and do find it interesting, have had time off here and there before but allways seem to fall back, you are right though I am running from something and that's exactly what I am trying to find out, at the moment only have a rough idea off the roots but cant be exact :confused: ...


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21696709 - 05/18/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Then mushrooms could be very helpful for you.  I suggest sitting down beforehand and writing a statement of intent, asking the mushrooms for direction and stating what it is you are trying to find out, then after the experience, write as detailed an account of your trip as possible, for your own records.  Journaling can be helpful in these kind of therapeutic situations to help solidify and elaborate the lessons you learn and help you remember.  Doing 3.5-5g alone in a dark, safe bedroom while comfortable in bed with some light, uplifting but not too distracting music or perfect silence is a great way to approach the shamanic side of mushrooms.  Safe travels and best of luck with recovery from your addictions.  Report back if you find out anything interesting. 
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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21696739 - 05/18/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The statement off intent sounds perfect, will go for roughly 3g (5star trip)although never taken this much so might go for 2.5 (or should I go for the Terence McKenna and go for the massive trip?)which in your opinion would be more beneficial? , taking p. subaeruginosa which are extremely potent, really enjoy my music so will try with both music and non music. Going to wait a couple weeks a thoroughly prepare myself both mentally and physically and will defiantly report back.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21697766 - 05/19/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

2.5g subaeruginosa will be a powerful and moving experience and ought to be sufficient.  3g might just be adding more bodyload and mindfuck.  Best of luck.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21697854 - 05/19/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Defiantly going in with an open mind and a positive attitude (only way to do it), and see what the shrooms have to offer.




.....that's how u do it!.....focus strongly and meditate on your intent which I assume is overcoming your addiction. I mean really really focus your intent pray and meditate and say the words aloud describe in words aloud exactly what you want to gain from your experience and ask the mushroom gods to bless you and help you.

  Be extremely humble and vulnerable truly truly open your mind and heart! :-) ask the mushroom gods to do their work and prepare yourself for said work.....best wishes...


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21697882 - 05/19/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Then mushrooms could be very helpful for you.  I suggest sitting down beforehand and writing a statement of intent, asking the mushrooms for direction and stating what it is you are trying to find out, then after the experience
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Shrooms helped me with a 15 year plus amphetamine addiction. For the first time realised the gravity of my addiction and how it effected those close to me. After two rehabs it was the shrooms who finnaly helped me it for what it was.

Recommend a 3g trip, for a trip with intent. Good trip vibes and luck with the recovery.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: Jeff Vader]
    #21698460 - 05/19/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the reply's, got out off rehab a couple months ago without much luck from it. So going for a different approach, as personally I believe spiritualty has the biggest impact on addiction. Sick off the impact it has, could write a book on the devastating effects drugs have. Actually really looking forward to the trip although anxious at the same time. Shall let you all know how it goes :smile:


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21698498 - 05/19/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If going the silent route use earplugs they help block out the little sounds your house makes or a car door which causes anxiety (it does for me)


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    #21698512 - 05/19/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Very nice tip earplugs sound perfect, can imagine the impact small noises would have, have never tripped in silence before so willing to give it a go.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: bricky]
    #21698570 - 05/19/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: HaveABeer420]
    #21698610 - 05/19/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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They gave me the wisdom to quit meth 17 years ago. If you go in with an open mind and positive attitude, your answers should be revealed to you.




Yea stopped meth too with shrooms , and a little more organisation in my life . at some point you get sick of it and the shrooms helps you to change that old mindset

the mushroom definitely have some good things to say to you but only if you really want to listen :strokebeard2:


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21700624 - 05/19/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Be warned bro, stop expecting/ or don't expect anything from the trip. Don't be excited, don't be worried. Just do it and go with the flow. The more you hype

it up to yourself, the more you think about it (the trip), the more of an expectation you are putting onto it. I have done this several times and just

been devastated when I didn't have any sort of spiritual or whatever you want to call it, kind of trip.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21700696 - 05/20/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Good advice.  Dose high, meditate through the trip in the dark and I don't think there's much to be disappointed in.  Remember to submit entirely to the mushrooms, let them show you and teach you, remember that you are a passive vessel receiving wisdom and your only job is to accept and experience everything that unfolds, as it unfolds.  Do not try to guide or control the experience, just passively submit to it and let everything flow through your relaxed body.  If they show you something unpleasant remember this:

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

I highly recommend meditating beforehand, if you're even moderately experienced at meditating, psychedelics are a lot more reliable in terms of delivering the goods.  If you've never meditated, try just focusing on taking slow, deep, calming breaths, breathing in positive energy and exhaling the negative.


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Re: Mushrooms for awful addiction? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21700718 - 05/20/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes for sure


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