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Ice House Shaman
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: lalala]
#2211000 - 12/31/03 12:33 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Count me in. I would love 2 help. I have a few large projects going on myself. What harm would it do attempting this. I have to believe that just through natural selection and adaptation.... over time these particular species of fungus will travel eastward in WA, OR, CANADA at least to the foot hills of the cascades. The key to success is spreading the love as far and as wide as possible.
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Zen Peddler


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Id suggest you use a spawning meduium rather than simply slapping a piece of agar onot some wood. Why not follow one of the tried and true methods - spawn with corn flour and wood chips and then use this to spawn a large bag of wood chips.
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theshiftingwalls
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
#2214908 - 01/02/04 10:23 AM (20 years, 30 days ago) |
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This is just my side projects, I have myco bags going also for the main project.
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nubus
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with these guys a little cardboard spawn can go a long way... just a thought... it's easier than agar for many people
best of luck-
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Erik006
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: nubus]
#2220833 - 01/05/04 02:51 PM (20 years, 27 days ago) |
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>with these guys a little cardboard spawn can go a long way... just a thought... it's easier than agar for many people
Isn't agar > grain > cardboard > woodchips the way it goes?
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KreeprCeepr
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I think that introducing a species is the same as killing one (wild boars into Hawaii, Midgees in Klamath Lake, Humans into Australia...ect). i would like to see azures all over canada, but at the same time you have not studied its effect on other species at the mass introducing you are talking about. Im no Mycologist but it seems that no reputable studies have been done to support any reason for trying to introduce azures into Canada. You talked about Azures "replacing" Cyans, well i happen to love cyans, and for them to be replaced by azures, i would be pretty disapointed. so maybe you should think about trying to introduce a species that is already there NATURALLY. It is just my 2 cents for nature.
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Yarry
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: KreeprCeepr]
#2239487 - 01/13/04 02:17 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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Im living in canada in the great lakes area, where azures whill grow, alas there almsot impossible to find around here. Id like to start various mycelial cultures around myself, but id need a print or syringe, can anyone help me?
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Anno
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Any results?
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4hodmt
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Re: Project "saving Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Anno]
#3260974 - 10/21/04 03:49 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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if u hav unlimited access, u should m ix up garbage can fulls of spawn and wood, then make a hugeeeeee pile in a giant hole. let it colonize, then make liek 10 more huge underground piles. that should give u PLENTY of spawn to go around urself and throw sum flakes in ppl's mulch beds. hehehe
you will be like johnny azure seed/spore
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Gr0wer
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: 4hodmt]
#3264522 - 10/22/04 12:03 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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It will never be extinct and they can grow in a wide variety of climates. If you want some feel free to buy a truckload of chips and make patches locally and maintain them annually. Put tehm in places where they can spread by spores naturally. I wouldnt bother/risk sneaking in spawn to nurserys. It sure would suck if some other guy buys chips for a cyan grow and gets azures in his patch too. Then again it would be cool to be the guy who gets the fruit of your labor and realizes there azures.
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Silven


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Gr0wer]
#3274600 - 10/25/04 08:24 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is it possible for azures to be growing up around the great lakes, Lake Erie in specific? I live relatively close to there, and our climate is humid oceanic. The east coast isn't very far from me either in all actuality. If I were a wood cultivator I would most definately help out in this ordeal. Infact I should probably go read up on some teks, because there's nothing I would love more than to have atleast my own personal bed of azures each summer 
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Anno
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Silven]
#5032985 - 12/08/05 06:37 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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>is it possible for azures to be growing up around the great lakes, Lake Erie in >specific?
The south of the lake is in the plant hardiness zone of ~6, so the answer is yes, for the south of the lake.

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Psychoslut
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Anno]
#5033036 - 12/08/05 07:13 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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im on the border line of 5a and 5b any chance azures will come back every year in that climate?
it is cold and rainy in the fall
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Anno
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Psychoslut]
#5033080 - 12/08/05 07:38 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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You might want to cover the beds before the really cold temperatures with a new layer of wood chips(4, 5 inches) or a few layers of cardboard to protect the beds.
Edited by Anno (12/08/05 08:49 AM)
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Psychoslut
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Anno]
#5033093 - 12/08/05 07:46 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds good. A guy would think that it gets allot colder near lake Erie, than it does here. Lake Erie is allot more north than me.
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LynxRufus
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Psychoslut]
#5035835 - 12/08/05 07:49 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The "lake effect" ups the temp to a usda zone 6 directly around the lake. Like a big ol' heat sink.
Some have said that there isn't substantial evidence for global warming or that it isn't expected by scientists to effect us in the next 20 years.... You should look at the evidence/theories again. The ones put out by scientists, not the government.
The man on a mission really needs to read Mycelium Running by stamets for cool ideas to help him out.
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starseed1066
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theshiftingwalls said: It will get sooo hot in 20 years that Vancouver would be likes southren Washington. Seattle would be more like northren Oregon.
hate to burst your bubble, but i've lived in both northern oregon and seattle. and aside from the fact that there are less thunderstorms in seattle, the weather is identical. also, many scientists dont belive in global warming as anything other than natural trend changes in the earth's climate. some speculate that this "warming period" is actually preceeding an ice age. so yeah. might want to start spreading that spawn southward.
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LynxRufus
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Re: Project "saving Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: starseed1066]
#5037869 - 12/09/05 05:11 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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The vast majority of credible scientists do believe in it, however. The argument is no longer if it exists, but to what extent humans have altered it. The greenhouse effect is a natural phenomenon that plays a central role in all things weather / climate. Humans have effected this with our output of CO2 and other gasses. Even the most conservative sources have admitted that much:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html#Q11
Several scientific factions predict an ice age as a result of global warming. The warmth melts the glaciers, the seas ability to regulate the current temps decrease, the seas rise causing tectonic changes, geological events occur that may cloud the skies, and then the heat wave is over.
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LynxRufus
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Re: Project "saving Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: LynxRufus]
#5037882 - 12/09/05 05:19 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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If nothing else this guy has a great idea just for the simple fact that there are so many people out their picking mushrooms. I've read at a couple different sites that scientists are seeing less and less of certain "highly valued" mushrooms cause we're picking the hell out them.
Maybe it's time we all make an effort to put some back! At least us mushroom pickers, anyway.
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Anno
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Re: Project "saving Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: LynxRufus]
#5037908 - 12/09/05 05:48 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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> I've read at a couple different sites that scientists are seeing less and less >of certain "highly valued" mushrooms cause we're picking the hell out them.
And I have read a paper on a Swiss study thatt went over 30 years on whether picking mushrooims has any effect on the fungal population, and the answer was cleary: NO, picking mushroom fruit bodies does not harm the fungal population.
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