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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2199128 - 12/24/03 03:19 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Oh really?

So all the woodlovers that grow in central Europe(South Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Hungary...) are only fictitious products of our mind?


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Re: Project "Spreading wood loving actives" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2199141 - 12/24/03 03:48 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Variety is the spice of life, the more species you spread, the better
chance of success, I've mixed spawn from a few species into a few
large woodchip piles around my area(zone 8), including the local council
tree yards piles, and 3 private tree surgons wood chip piles.
I've also sold spawn to people who told me they were going to
do the same in other parts of the country.

These large piles are the best place to start the spread, as the chips are
sold to gardeners all over the place, so this aids the spread, and saves
foot work. Just be sure not to spawn too deep into the piles, as the heat
produced can kill your spawn, better to spawn many different areas of
the top layer.


So, I know you have a few species :wink:, spread them all :cool:
Just remeber to lable :tongue:


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2200280 - 12/24/03 10:58 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Why don't you show pictures of your progress? I know you have a camera. Sorry to rain on your parade but this whole thread smells of bullshit, though a great idea I don't think you intentions go further than trying to impress people on a website, I've never seen you post anything about cultivation before and all the sudden you act as if your an expert in growing woodlovers. I think you found a new website to copy ideas off of like just about everyone of your other posts. To the people unfamilar with this guys post I know I might be coming off as an asshole but I have good reason, I would hold off on the praise and sending donations until he actually proved himself, if I'm wrong I apoligize now.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Anno]
    #2200836 - 12/25/03 10:41 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, you hallucinated them.

Mushrooms don't cause hallucinations.

Hallucinations cause mushrooms.


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Re: Project "Spreading wood loving actives" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2200942 - 12/25/03 01:04 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I dont think psilocybe azurenscens are native to canada, so I wouldnt try to introduce this alien specie here.
Ever heard of bio-invasion? (yes, bio-invasion is bad)
It seems that you have no idea what you are doing.
Do you, or anybody else have any idea of what this might result in 5,10,15 years?
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: John]
    #2200961 - 12/25/03 01:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

honestly i dont know what i think about all this. i am not claiming to know everything about active LBMs, and therefore i am not attempting something like this project. i sure hope shiftingwalls knows alot about what he's doing or else this could be a big failure and waste. it has good intentions but it might be alot of wasted effort and spores, for all the reasons all the skeptics have already posted.

i know he PMs me alot about getting cyan prints, apparantly he's intending to start a spore business. that's all i know about this guy.

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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2206400 - 12/28/03 08:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

'Only Humid oceanic zones are good for any woodlovers. So only a small part of Europe is good for Psi woodlovers. But way bigger zone compared to North America. '

I have the following points to make in response to this post.
1. Psilocybe subaeruginosa and Psilocybe cyanescens fruit in areas that have around 400kms distances from the coast. Ive also fruit azurescens in areas around 253kms from the ocean on staight beech woodchips. The humidity requirements have sweat FA to do with the distance from the ocean - it has to do with the climate in the area (rain and cold requirements)  , availability of lignious substrates and thats about it.  You could fruit any woodlover anywhere that has cold snaps, wood chips and pelnty of rain. Sounds like most of europe to me, and ive read countless articles of lignious psilocybes all through europe and parts of the United States and South America that demonstrate your 'theory' (which is based on nothing but your own preconceptions and has no basis in any study i am aware of) to be quite incorrect.
The best way to learn about any topic is to ask questions or research rather than just presume. This avoids misconceptions. :smile:
2. Psilocybe azurescens mycelia is more competitive and hardier than subaeruginosa - this i know for sure. The similiarities between subaeruginosa and cyanescens suggest that its a little pointless suggesting one will thrive in an area that another will not. Ive demonstrated that cyanescens from europe (?) will fruit on all the same substrates as subaeruginosa and is almost macroscopically impossible to differentiate between certain subaeruginosa variants. (whiter stem and lacks inrolled margins).
Im sure Anno would agree that azurescens, cyanescens, and subaeruginosa will thrive in quite similar invitro conditions - surprising when you consider the large distances between their natural but similar habitats.
I have read a theory that azurescens may have originated from the baltic - but its only a theory.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2206475 - 12/28/03 10:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

UPDATE : I got 6 pounds of azure spawn going good. But I dont know how to upload pics. When I can, I will update with pics.

Everything is working out great :smile:.

(note : please stop the negativity in this thread people, its pretty hurt)


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2206587 - 12/28/03 11:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

FAQ's: posting pics

I wanna see thes pics.

Peace - @cro


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2207160 - 12/29/03 06:17 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Im not being negative - unless ofcourse being negative is the same as pointing out factually incorrect statements. It is important to correct misinformed statements so that others who read these posts are able to formulate an informed concept of the realities of these issues.
If i was flaming anyone, then sure im being a wanker, but when im correcting factually incorrect statements that people choose to make then im only doing it for everyone's good.
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2207172 - 12/29/03 06:33 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2207258 - 12/29/03 07:58 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

unless of course being negative is the same as pointing out factually incorrect statements. It is important to correct misinformed statements so that others who read these posts are able to formulate an informed concept of the realities of these issues.[...] when im correcting factually incorrect statements that people choose to make then im only doing it for everyone's good.



Exactly!
Here is an interesting article I recently read on this topic.





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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2207343 - 12/29/03 09:02 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I am not meaning you bluemeanie... I am meaning others in this thread. Sorry for the confusion.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2207351 - 12/29/03 09:05 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

God what a day... Just trying to be cool.. I did not mean you bluemeanie.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2208895 - 12/29/03 11:47 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

No problem - good luck with it all mate!


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2208926 - 12/30/03 12:05 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Some dishes and some agar to maple (cyan) myc :





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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2208936 - 12/30/03 12:10 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

? about those last two pics.
is that an agar disc slapped onto a piece of wood?


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2208945 - 12/30/03 12:13 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Yes :lol:. Its a pretty ghetto tek. I used a microwave on the maple before I put the agar on also. Bare with me, I am new at this.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2208960 - 12/30/03 12:17 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

:oogle:

i think you would greatly benefit from reading the mushroom cultivator by paul stamets.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2208974 - 12/30/03 12:24 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, atleast its working good.


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