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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2180659 - 12/15/03 07:29 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Never seen an Azure in Arkansas! I've got access to 40 acres of prime land, would anyone send a spore or two this way?


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: lalala]
    #2180681 - 12/15/03 07:38 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

they don't grow here.

well, they don't grow in arkansas naturally:wink:


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2180705 - 12/15/03 07:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

little rock?


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: lalala]
    #2180811 - 12/15/03 08:21 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

It  might  work. But then again, it might not :tongue:.  The coast is prime for spreading azures. Mostly matters where you are if you wanna spread azures.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2181498 - 12/16/03 01:06 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I am doing very good on making spawn. I will dump large amounts in the dark wood mulch pile in garden centres. All is under way.

:sun: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 is in full effect :sun:


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2181665 - 12/16/03 03:34 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Dark woodchips is usually a sign of cedar or bark which you want to stay away from. Go lookin around for lighter colored, tan woodchips. That will more likely be a hardwood variety or at least leached well.

So, do we get to see pics of the progress?

Peace - @cro


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2189722 - 12/19/03 06:58 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Im in Australia and have already cultivated azurescens in three different locations down here.
If your using a syringe, you may as well not bother. Woodlovers require agar isolation. Not all isolates from a print will fruit - many wont perform well even if they do - you better off using a known fruiting clone to cut the hassle out of it.
Secondly, the difference between Ps.azurescens and Ps.eucalypta are pretty minimal - most of the cyanescens family are very similar - even if azurescens dissappeared (and Gartz demonstrated that patches that were not maintained in naturalised environments could not sustain themselves) there would still be other species that would be thriving.
Cyanescens is a thriving species - they will always be more cyanescens around than azurescens - so there is no way that azures will 'replace' cyanescens.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2191248 - 12/19/03 06:22 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I am using cultures.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2195011 - 12/22/03 02:32 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Since Azurescens has one of the more robust mycelia of known Psilocybes, why do you think it in particular is under threat of dissappearing due to perceived environmental changes? Ive colonised azurescens in temps at around 29-34 C which demonstrates that it is quite a hardy mushroom with plenty of phenotypes that it can express in response to variable environmental factors.
Certainly, azurescens limited range of natural habitat probably indicates that it is an introduced species - the grasses that it is frequently located with are native Baltic grasses - perhaps it was introduced with this grass.
Also, one of the three main clone lines that are being sold of azurescens - i believe it is ossip off the top of my head, was confused as cyanescens - perhaps this demonstrates some sort of speciation link with cyanescens.
Certainly subaeruginosa, azurescens, bohemica, cyanescens, eucalypta represent fairly similar mushrooms - their differences probably fairly recent expressions of sympatric speciation.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #2195141 - 12/22/03 05:09 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, I know that it will never die. Just if a freak weather change or something to that effect would kill off the azures. But the chances out a freak weather problem is low.

But yes I agree with you %100.

If azure were introduced species, where would the orgin be from?


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2198393 - 12/23/03 06:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

dude, sounds good enough of an idea and im for spreading the bitch but your worried about global warming? and you think that the weather is going to change that drastically in as little as 20 years? where is any sort of logic drawn to your ideas? i mean sure, global warming might very well exist, but even the most liberal theories on global warming still think that it will take thousands of years.  the earth has been around for billions of years and it's not going anywhere for a while so i wouldn't be too worried about that. hell there have been volcanic eruptions for billions of years and 1 volcanic eruption creates more CFC's than all of human existance could have created from the past few hundred years and for even hundred's of years into the future. never the less, i think that it's a really cool idea to grow it at garden centers, i mean how happy would you be to look out your door one morning and find yourself a couple of new friends to play with :wink: i live in knoxville TN and i would like to make an attempt at growing, i can get dried shrooms when they are in town, not really sure about the species, never checked, im fairly new at this and i have only tripped about 4 times.  my friends have been pressing me to find some way to get it done and i have read up on a few sites on how to grow using spore prints/syringes. if your going to be at it anywyas would oyu mind sending a spore print this way?  im not sure if any grow around here, i live pretty close to the smokies, but was planning to grow in a fish tank with a sonic humidifier and a plexiglass top w/ holes drilled in for air circulation. i should be getting some $$ for xmas so i was going to go invest in a few mason jars and some rye berries, vermiculite/perilte.  i have a pressure cooker so now about all i need are some prints to get started with.  please send email if your willing to help (heheh im not a cop, but i checked into legalities and so long as you dont have anything with psilosybin in it it's cool to have in tennessee [spores are cool] even so, i can understand worry in the matter so something like no return address would be cool?)  also i might need some pointers on how to do it, i would be planning to grow these inside btw, a few of my friends just moved out and i can use a room in their new house for whatever i want>>fun times
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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2198579 - 12/23/03 08:18 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

They aren't spraying fungicide in oregon and washington. If they tried it, ten thousand naked hippies would lay down in front of the equipment and block them. I picked lots of azures near astoria again this year, even getting directed by a park ranger who 'caught' us to where a better patch was. I don't think they're going away.

Good project anyway though. Don't just spawn wood chips. In nature they grow in the beach sand right along the shoreline, nestled into the dune grasses. Most azures I've found have been within 100 yards (meters) of the shoreline.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #2198844 - 12/23/03 11:36 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I am aware that azures arent being treated with fungicide down in Oregon.

They still need hardwood chips to spawn. If I could put large amounts of spawn in hardwood mulch piles, it will spread like crazy. Atleast 20 miles from shore. Scaling miles of beach is very time consuming. The best way is going to hardwood piles that get shipped for landscaping all over the area. Then the spawn would be all over the lower-main land very quickly.

Then azures will be growing like rampant throughout the area in a matter of one year.

For Europe, I suggest using a Ps. Sub isolate and use the same tek as I.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2198906 - 12/24/03 12:17 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

>For Europe, I suggest using a Ps. Sub isolate

Why?


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Anno]
    #2198917 - 12/24/03 12:26 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

More of an adaptable species for other parts of the world. I think azure would not spread in Europe. Because it would be to dry inland. Also Ps. Sub has strong hardy myc (even more then azure). I guess I could change my mind and use a sub isolate instead of azure before I get enough myc.

Maybe it could spread azures near the Baltic sea. That would be a prime place for that. The southren Baltic sea.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2198956 - 12/24/03 12:47 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Just to clear that up, you have never grown any woodlovers up till now, right?

I just want to check your experience with these things, before relaying on your advice.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Anno]
    #2199088 - 12/24/03 02:19 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I grew BC Cyans last year with my friend. Thats about my only experience.


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2199100 - 12/24/03 02:41 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

> I think azure would not spread in Europe. Because it would be to dry inland.

What I would like to see from you are some hard facts, not only wild speculations(as the above)

Saying "Europe is too dry inland" is just an ignorant uninformed claim.
Europe has a variety of climate zones as has every other large piece of landmass.
Compare:

North American Climate




European Climate



Read here for more information about climates:
http://www2.worldbook.com/students/around_climate_index.asp


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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2199110 - 12/24/03 02:55 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

i personally think you should just go crazy with cyans not azures. azures have never been found more than a mile from the coast. i dont think they would spread to well to other places. because if they did why arent in other places right now ya get what im saying.



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Re: Project "spreading Azure" 2004-2009 [Re: Anno]
    #2199125 - 12/24/03 03:16 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Only Humid oceanic zones are good for any woodlovers. So only a small part of Europe is good for Psi woodlovers. But way bigger zone compared to North America.
I think some would dhould try this in Europe. It could work to well.


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