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Crystal G



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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Magicman69]
#21695442 - 05/18/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: I don't even know my answer anymore. STAL. I choose drugs but that is because I'm feeling withdraws micro-managing my taper off Subs right meow. 
What dose are you at? I've found its easy to make big jumps until you get below 2 MG. I could jump from 12mg to 8mg, 8 to 6, 6 to 4, but once I would get to 2mg it would hurt to even go down to 1.5.
I'm down to 0.25mg a couple times a day. Every 3 days though I fuck up and start dosing high again. I'm either feeling withdrawals too intensely, or something sets my temper off (lately it's been my S/O ). And when I'm angry or not feeling well I start doing 1mg doses again just to feel that little buzz and feel normal and pleasant again. I never fucking get mad and I can't stand it. But I make sure to only do it for like a day. Then I just jump down to 0.5mg the next day, then 0.4mg the next day, and then when I'm ready back down to 0.25mg.
The only reason I'm even doing this shit (tapering real fast) is because my S/O is coming to stay at my place in like a week. I want to have a sex drive when he comes, and right around 0.25mg is when the drive starts coming back for me.  Otherwise I would be shooting massive amounts of bupe right now in an effort to prevent myself from going out and scoring roxies. I want a shot of oxy so FUCKING BAD right now. 
I have done 4-8mg doses, but only for short periods of time, usually when I was injecting bupe. I'd do it for like 2 weeks, and then do a really fast taper back down to 0.5mg again.
There is no reason to be dosing that high, even if you have the highest opiate tolerance is the max you really need is 2mg a few times a day. In the hospital when they detoxed us, they never used above 2mg subs more than 4 times a day. 8mg subs is really not necessary as a single dose by itself.
The fact that you find it easy to make big jumps from 4-12mg shows that you never needed doses that high in the first place. And dosing that high consistently for too long is what makes it that much harder to get below 2mg. I have no physiological problem getting down to 0.5mg, it's 0.25mg when things start getting sketchy.
I need to order some kratom ASAP.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: abductee]
#21695475 - 05/18/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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@Sheeckle, that's a good question. If you would hug your sister/mom/family like that then it's okay.
You can kiss. I'm sure all of you know what is considered sexual acts. You can't have the best of both worlds.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#21695476 - 05/18/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: This thread should be renamed.
Become JustForToday OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose?
You fucking beat me to it, ya bastard.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: abductee]
#21695484 - 05/18/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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so glad dont gotta make this choice
but no sex mxe is funner than sex 
I love sex though so glad dont gotta make thar choice
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21695488 - 05/18/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Honestly, I think it would be a harder choice for me to pick between masturbation and sex for the next 5 years.
Masturbation is sex.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21695632 - 05/18/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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shoulda made this into a poll
no sex hands down
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Bigfeely123
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Connoisseur]
#21695664 - 05/18/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wasn't sure how. Darnit...
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21695724 - 05/18/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you can still edit the OP if you want to add a poll. There's an add poll/preview checkbox below the dialogue box.
Try it out.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: kr0nik0]
#21695974 - 05/18/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn I think it's too late now to add a poll... just checked and I don't see that option.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21696153 - 05/18/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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no drugs. Vaginas are so much more appealing.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Bigfeely123]
#21696172 - 05/18/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are both terrible.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#21696273 - 05/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would loose my shit if I didn't have sex in 5 years. Drugs how ever are easy to kick for me. Sure it would be rough but imagine taking a nice shroom trip after 5 years of existence. The amount of new things that you would learn about yourself..
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Crystal G]
#21696441 - 05/18/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: ... I have done 4-8mg doses, but only for short periods of time, usually when I was injecting bupe. I'd do it for like 2 weeks, and then do a really fast taper back down to 0.5mg again.
There is no reason to be dosing that high, even if you have the highest opiate tolerance is the max you really need is 2mg a few times a day. In the hospital when they detoxed us, they never used above 2mg subs more than 4 times a day. 8mg subs is really not necessary as a single dose by itself. ...
I totally agree. They spout alot of reasons for why they recommend such high doses for maintenance uses, I think it all traces back to lies put out by Beckitt Wreckinser or w/e in the classes that doctors must attend to write suboxone. This is the only drug where doctors have to basically go be trained by the pharm company in order to prescribe it, and I know for a fact that many of the claims these doctors make regard suboxone are not evidence-based claims.
Like the people on 32mg/day just blow my mind. I actually start feeling like shit if I take more than 4mg at a time. Even coming off straight fent I never needed more than 4mg-8mg per day max, and I probebly could get by on much less than that.
I also agree with you magicman. 2mg is the threshold for me too. I've been straddling it for weeks. Part of me thinks it is pointless to go lower I should just stop because at this point it is torture anyway. Even if I get stable at a low dose, I want off so I will have to keep hurting anyway.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21696448 - 05/18/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sex
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#21696481 - 05/18/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmm, 5 years of marriage or 5 years of no drugs...
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: MajickMuffin]
#21696610 - 05/18/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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MajickMuffin said: Yea Def no sex. I agree with ipraytomushrooms
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: ModestMouse]
#21696681 - 05/18/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I don't even get laid that often anyways so I'm going with no sex. I'll just take enough LSD to make me think I'm getting laid by some goddesses
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21696772 - 05/18/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I just had sex and I am drunk and I can tell you if I could undo one IF I HAD TO, it certainly would not be the sex.
Ya'll have serious drug problems.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21696783 - 05/19/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I totally agree. They spout alot of reasons for why they recommend such high doses for maintenance uses, I think it all traces back to lies put out by Beckitt Wreckinser or w/e in the classes that doctors must attend to write suboxone. This is the only drug where doctors have to basically go be trained by the pharm company in order to prescribe it, and I know for a fact that many of the claims these doctors make regard suboxone are not evidence-based claims.
Like the people on 32mg/day just blow my mind. I actually start feeling like shit if I take more than 4mg at a time. Even coming off straight fent I never needed more than 4mg-8mg per day max, and I probebly could get by on much less than that.
I also agree with you magicman. 2mg is the threshold for me too. I've been straddling it for weeks. Part of me thinks it is pointless to go lower I should just stop because at this point it is torture anyway. Even if I get stable at a low dose, I want off so I will have to keep hurting anyway.
Same here. I withdrew from 40mg methadone and I was getting by with only 1mg doses of subs 3-4 times a day. I could have gone by just slowly tapering myself from that dose, but after 2 days of being on subs, I was so sick of doing opiates that I just decided to stop cold turkey and get detoxed in the hospital. I only made it 10 days before the pain was lingering too long, and I ended up getting back on subs. By then my tolerance was low enough that I only needed like 0.25mg twice a day.
Then rehab made me psycho and suicidal, and fucked all that up. I ended up doing mass amounts of subs the second I got out. I'm talking 4-8mg doses several times a day. It was the only thing preventing me from relapsing and killing myself.
Most people who have been shooting heroin for years have an average methadone dose of 60-80mg. So the fact that 1mg a few times a day was just fine for me off 40mg methadone tells you that the max you would ever need really is 2mg a few times a day.
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Re: No sex for 5 years OR no drugs for 5 years? Which would you choose. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#21696798 - 05/19/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone really cares if you're drunk or just had sex. Get off your fucking high horse man I don't have a drug problem at all actually-never have, never will. I have a lot more will than that. I could sit on something for months at a time & only do it whenever I feel like it.
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