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pan subs in colorado
    #21693695 - 05/18/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Do the Panaeolus cinctulus ( subbalteatus) that grow in colorado contain reasonable ammounts of desired indoles? Some sources say yes, others say no.

These come up in mass every season near my house, ive always picked and saved some every season, and though I have had a confirmed positive ID on the species, I have never even thought of consuming them.

I read somewhere that the pan subs from Colorado could be used as an active psilocybe species, or could be used to extract psilocin from, I just wanted to hear the community's thoughts on wild pan subs found near Denver...

-E. Borodin


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21693996 - 05/18/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If you're sure of what they are, eat some and see.


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21697540 - 05/19/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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36fuckin5 said:
If you're sure of what they are, eat some and see.





...I don't know about all that....how many do you even eat? I have no way of knowing the potential alkaloid content of individual cataphores, so it makes dosing in any responsible fashion quite difficult,  plus there are cubes available, I only collect them (pan. Subs) as mycological specimens for my collection.
(I have a dry sample of near every entheogenic plant and fungi)


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21698048 - 05/19/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Eat a handful. They won't kill you.


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21701487 - 05/20/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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36fuckin5 said:
Eat a handful. They won't kill you.




...my better judgement tells me that that may not be the best idea....

I was thinking a total alkaloid EtOH extract....

-E. Borodin


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21702192 - 05/20/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Idk what to tell you. Don't be a pussy.


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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21704150 - 05/20/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Pans that print black won't kill you. And pan cincts print jet ass black with pretty meaty stems. Blacker than a sharpie. Just don't eat anything that isn't printed black.


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Mad Season]
    #21705566 - 05/21/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Pans that print black won't kill you. And pan cincts print jet ass black with pretty meaty stems. Blacker than a sharpie. Just don't eat anything that isn't printed black.




I brought a spore-print and dried samples to the telluride mushroom festival, and a professional mycologists gave me his word that they were in fact pan-subs.
(Ive also put the spores under a microscope and compared them with known pan-sub spores, I'm 100% on their ID)

....but consuming them was never my intention, a have a dried sample of nearly every entheogenic plant on earth.

Why would I eat mushrooms from my yard when nice, sterile grown, stropharia cubensis cataphores are grown in basements and attics of every psychedelico in the state? If I wanted to trip access to mushrooms is not an issue, my fascination here lies within learning and catagorizing this species and its local traits, I'm a chemistry student as well as a basement-shaman, and ive heard rumors that the pan-subs (which grow on the grass in mass behind my home, but which have not even come up yet,(I do have a surplus of from last season though) contain higher ammounts of psilocin than pan-subs from else-where....is this true? If so why?

-E. Borodin


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21705732 - 05/21/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sorry you're just going to limit yourself to cultivated cubensis? Personally I'd rather have a plant cultivated by mother nature over a guy named Keith but hey that's just me. It's always been my dream to try all different psilocybes and pans to experience their unique trips. Every mushroom species is different. I wouldn't limit myself to cubes. As a person interested in plants you'd think you'd be interested in what each of their unique effects do too?


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Mad Season]
    #21709698 - 05/22/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm sorry you're just going to limit yourself to cultivated cubensis? Personally I'd rather have a plant cultivated by mother nature over a guy named Keith but hey that's just me. It's always been my dream to try all different psilocybes and pans to experience their unique trips. Every mushroom species is different. I wouldn't limit myself to cubes. As a person interested in plants you'd think you'd be interested in what each of their unique effects do too?




I don't limit myself to just cubes, I have tried a good deal of the active psilocybes. Though I prefer cultivated mushrooms, I prefer to cultivate them myself as well, though I was really trying to not have to say that.

Mushrooms from nature can be fine, but they can also have molds and bacteria living in them, as well as insects, and all kinds of other things I would rather not consume.

Though cubes are the most common, ive seen many other varieties of psilocybe mushrooms in cultivation, it just takes a bit more work.

I was trying to get at the point that my interest in these things has very little to do with actually consuming them, and were I simply looking to just consume mushrooms, there are many ways that don't require the time and effort and risks of finding, identifying, and consuming mushrooms in the wild.

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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21709734 - 05/22/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:rockon: all good :smile: it was just misunderstood then. I was just shocked you'd only want 1 type of mushroom haha


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Re: pan subs in colorado [Re: Mad Season]
    #21713180 - 05/23/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

For sure, looking back I can understand, I should have been more clear.

Pan sub is listed as having 1.5mg/gram to 6mg/gram psilocybin (per dry gram) in "psychedelics Encyclopedia"

What would set the Colorado pan subs appart from pan subs grown else where? Are these only rumors?

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