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encrypting hard drives
    #21693414 - 05/18/15 04:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

so what happens if mid encryption your computer crashes?  all data lost?


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21693454 - 05/18/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You should be fine.

If anything suffered slight corruption to your diskk, nothing more, nothing less.


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21703679 - 05/20/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ideally, you would turn on full disk encryption before you put any of your stuff on the system.


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #21709540 - 05/22/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If you want to learn more about encryption, I suggest reading these pages, the programs used might be different in your case, but the implications are probably at least similar.

http://www.jveweb.net/en/archives/2010/10/installing-slackware-in-an-encrypted-lvm.html
http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2014/07/27/1/


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: Byrain]
    #21710268 - 05/22/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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The steep learning curve with Slackware (or Arch, Parabola and frankly as far as the average non-tech person is concerned any flavour of GNU/Linux) probably makes it a less than ideal distro to recommend to people when you're not sure about their level of technical expertise and willingness to bone up. Besides, advice on ways to encrypt one's system is best kept separate from OS recommendations. Unless of course one is the most wanted person on earth, in that case it's safe to say that that person shouldn't be using any OS that contains non-free software.

For a good explanation of full disk encryption software aimed at a general audience, read the Electronic Frontier Foundation's excellent write-up. In addition the Arch Linux Wiki contains a characteristically thorough article specifically dealing with how full disk encryption works on GNU/Linux.
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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21711201 - 05/22/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Actually slackware has a really gentle learning curve and even provides most everything a new user would use in the full install (Including both xfce and kde).  The main difference with generally regarded easy linux distros as ubuntu or mint is that the roof is a lot higher and it doesn't obfuscate the learning process with unnecessary plastic wrap although it does take some quick looks at the online documentation time to time.


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: Byrain]
    #21718647 - 05/24/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Byrain said:
Actually slackware has a really gentle learning curve and even provides most everything a new user would use in the full install (Including both xfce and kde).  The main difference with generally regarded easy linux distros as ubuntu or mint is that the roof is a lot higher and it doesn't obfuscate the learning process with unnecessary plastic wrap although it does take some quick looks at the online documentation time to time.




Yes, I understand the Slackware philosophy. I still don't perceive the wisdom of recommending whatever is purest from a Unix philosophy and KISS principles standpoint to people who, for lack of clues as to their abilities, must be assumed to be average users with average abilities and an average motivation to learn - and those averages are pretty low. 9 out of 10 who are not already GNU/Linux users are only going to complain when they find out their iPad and other gizmos chockablock full of DRM and closed source technologies don't "just work" out of the box with their new, theoretically superior operating system, or that it doesn't have Skype, Netflix, MS Office and all the rest. I might be wrong about some of those but you get the idea. Not that I would recommend Ubuntu or Linux Mint to anyone, but Slackware, Arch, Gentoo, LFS demand a level of commitment that the general public cannot and will never be able to muster.
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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21719483 - 05/25/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Xfce is about as user friendly as the Unity she'll of Ubuntu though. It's just a little less bloated. And installing apps is about as easy as on an Android device.


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: koraks]
    #21719666 - 05/25/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm not arguing that there is anything bad about any specific GNU/Linux distro or desktop environment. Just that the overwhelming majority of users prefers things to "just work", however flawed that notion may be, over familiarizing themselves with all the People Front of Judea versus Judean People's Front battles in the free software and open source communities. When they plug their iPhone into their GNU/Linux PC, be it Slackware or Ubuntu, it's not going to sync and backup all their music, videos, play counts, ratings, photos, settings, edits and apps. At best there are very cumbersome hacks available to allow you to do some of that, which will break every time Apple updates the firmware. You're not going to open that .docx file that Jane Q. proprietary OS user sent you with all the latest MS Office-specific fancy formatting in LibreOffice, see it exactly the way its creator intended to and edit it in a way that guarantees the next person opening it MS Office will see exactly what you saw when saving it.

Of course most of these problems are not problems of GNU/Linux. If the masses were more enlightened as to the benefits of free software than none of this would be a problem. But that isn't the world we live in.
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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21747158 - 06/01/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1. There are many distros that just work, not all of them are something like gentoo or sourcemage.  See pclinuxos or mint for obvious examples.
2. Ubuntu contains spyware, sucks and is not even the most user friendly distro out there.  The only good thing ubuntu has are the ppas, but they are in no way essential.
3. Wtf are you talking about?
4. libimobiledevice
5. Libreoffice, abiword, and many others.
6. Your signature is ridiculous in a forum setting.


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: Byrain]
    #21747392 - 06/01/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Byrain said:
1. There are many distros that just work, not all of them are something like gentoo or sourcemage.  See pclinuxos or mint for obvious examples.
2. Ubuntu contains spyware, sucks and is not even the most user friendly distro out there.  The only good thing ubuntu has are the ppas, but they are in no way essential.
3. Wtf are you talking about?
4. libimobiledevice
5. Libreoffice, abiword, and many others.
6. Your signature is ridiculous in a forum setting.




Points 1 and 2 are responses to or rebuttals of things I never claimed. 4 and 5 are besides the point, which shouldn't come as a surprise because you've admitted not understanding my argument (your 3rd point).
So, instead of continuing to beat a dead horse, here's a picture to soothe any feather I may have ruffled.

Re your 6th point, how does it affect you whether I choose to sign my posts?
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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21748156 - 06/01/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I never really cared for Monty Python and didn't get the reference at first.  I did not claim you made those points, just I was adding to the topics you at least raised.


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Re: encrypting hard drives [Re: Byrain]
    #21754732 - 06/02/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Op, I'm sorry this thread turned into an argument over Linux. First thing's first, did you back your data up?

If not, it is more than possible that you may lose data if something were to go wrong halfway through. It all depends on how you encrypted your hard drive.


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