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Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle
    #21693349 - 05/18/15 03:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Program-offers-meth-pipes-to-drug-users-for-free-in-Seattle--304058961.html?

Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle

OSEATTLE -- Volunteers behind a needle exchange in Seattle are now handing out meth pipes to drug users for free.

The program is offered 5 days per week off an alley next to a church in Seattle's University District. It was launched by a group called The People's Harm Reduction Alliance about 2 months ago.

The demand for the free meth pipes has been growing ever since, the alliance's executive director said.

"People kept coming to our program and saying that they were getting syringes because they didn't have access to a pipe," said Shilo Murphy.

About 25-30 meth pipes are handed out each day, Murphy said.

The theory behind the program is that by handing out the pipes, some drug users will rely less on needles, Murphy said. That helps cut down on the risk of certain diseases, he added.

"Whatever the reason is why both parties don't have their own… They wind up sharing. Well, this program has prevented that because all it takes is a cut orally and you've transmitted a disease possibly," said Regg Thomas, a drug user for the past 20 years who currently works with the Urban Survivors Union.

Whether the theory for the program actually works is still up for debate. But according to state law, handing out drug paraphenalia like the pipes is illegal.

Murphy said he knows that.

"And so was syringe exchange 25 years ago. And yet we have syringe exchange and it's proven to be one of the biggest HIV prevention tools for injection drug use in the state," Murphy said.

Murphy said the program, which he claims is the first of its kind in the nation, has reduced some risky behaviors and helped get a number of users tested for Hepatitis C. Public Health of Seattle and King County could not be reached for comment Sunday about Murphy's claims.

On top of handing out meth pipes, Murphy said drug users can also pick up wound care kits and get crucial information about treatment options.

"By engaging them, we gave people self worth… Give back people's desire to live better in life and live better in society," Murphy said.

Even though it's illegal under state law to give someone certain kinds of drug paraphenalia, police said they're more concerned with what's put into the pipes and not necessarily the pipes themselves.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: motaman]
    #21693491 - 05/18/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Needles for userd seems to work so why not. Especially if it stops needle use.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #21693527 - 05/18/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ive seen folks move to the needle on that shit when smoking, snorting and eating it don't hit hard enough. If it helps people stop with the needle good news. I thought this article was a joke at first but needles aint no joke.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: joe2] * 2
    #21693626 - 05/18/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Free DMT pipes in Seattle? Hell yeah!


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: motaman]
    #21693919 - 05/18/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Harm reduction is important.

Reducing the spread of infectious diseases especially STDs.

Imagine not you or someone you love not getting or having and STD because someone was smart and kind enough to care.

This type of service should be available everywhere even in small towns and required for health centers and hospitals.

Save lives, save people, save our families, save ourselves.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: motaman]
    #21693975 - 05/18/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

At first I was like wtf, why. I get the whole needle aspect....but pipes seem pointless. However if it STOPS people from shooting up or encourages a different non infectious method of ingestion I suppose it cant hurt


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21695196 - 05/18/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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At first I was like wtf, why. I get the whole needle aspect....but pipes seem pointless. However if it STOPS people from shooting up or encourages a different non infectious method of ingestion I suppose it cant hurt



Believe it or not people get diseases from pipes too. Addicts often use cracked\broken and sharp pipes that are easy to cut yourself on. Hepatitis can live on a surface like that for days. This way at least the tweaker will have clean pipes and they'll exchange them which will keep them off the ground in our parks and streets.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: motaman]
    #21709738 - 05/22/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Harm reduction at its finest


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21712234 - 05/22/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So if you hand out free food to homeless you get fined but meth pipes are okay

http://www.king5.com/story/news/2014/08/03/13214720/


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21712255 - 05/22/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Where do you normally find "meth pipes" i never see them in headshops.
Iknow a few ghetto gas statios nearby where i cant get "glasspens" but you have to ask. They even come with some steel wool. But i know they exist i just never seen them out of all the headsops ive been in.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21717808 - 05/24/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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my3rdeye said:
So if you hand out free food to homeless you get fined but meth pipes are okay

http://www.king5.com/story/news/2014/08/03/13214720/




Contraband food could be disguised as legal drug paraphernalia.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21718725 - 05/24/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Where do you normally find "meth pipes" i never see them in headshops.
Iknow a few ghetto gas statios nearby where i cant get "glasspens" but you have to ask. They even come with some steel wool. But i know they exist i just never seen them out of all the headsops ive been in.



Alot of the gas stations where I live have them, you just call em a glass incense burner or a glass bubble. headshops got em. I have been noticing them more and more in legit glass shops- even like fancier, and colored ones. Maybe because DMT they are more visible in stores? (not that dmt is legal but is more socially acceptable, especially in the stoner world) My cousin has always smoked alot of meth - I don't know where he would get them, but he would have long glass tubes and he would blow his own meth pipes with a torch. I have done this a few times myself.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Mental Taco]
    #21720196 - 05/25/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Mental Taco said:
Where do you normally find "meth pipes" i never see them in headshops.
Iknow a few ghetto gas statios nearby where i cant get "glasspens" but you have to ask. They even come with some steel wool. But i know they exist i just never seen them out of all the headsops ive been in.




Crack pipes and meth pipes are two different things

The glass tubes that people put steel wool in are crack pipes

A glass tube with a ball on the end with a hole in the top of the ball is a meth pipe


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21720948 - 05/25/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Mental Taco said:
Where do you normally find "meth pipes" i never see them in headshops.
Iknow a few ghetto gas statios nearby where i cant get "glasspens" but you have to ask. They even come with some steel wool. But i know they exist i just never seen them out of all the headsops ive been in.




Crack pipes and meth pipes are two different things

The glass tubes that people put steel wool in are crack pipes

A glass tube with a ball on the end with a hole in the top of the ball is a meth pipe



              A crack-pipe is a meth-pipe with the bubble broken off and brillo shoved an inch or so into the end - or the other way around - you can make a meth-pipe from a crack-pipe the same way I said above by heating one end of a glass tube with a propane torch, when it is red hot and hot enough that it exhibits liquid-like behavior ou can pinch the end closed and then blow in it to blow it up like a bubble. Poke a 'carb' hole in the ball at the end of the tube and there ya go.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #21721134 - 05/25/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Most people do not break meth pipes to turn them into crack pipes nor do they turn crack pipes into meth pipes lol

Most people just buy one or the other made for the drug in question


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721200 - 05/25/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Actually it is VERY common, at least in my region of the world to break a bubble into a crack pipe, in fact I have smoked pounds of crack in the past (sober now for the most part, except the herb and psychedelics) and probably 70% of the crack-pipes I have smoked out of had been converted from a meth pipe. Some places sell straight shooters but those places are more rare in the state I live in. It is very easy to turn a crack pipe into a meth pipe, the same way you would fix a broken meth bubble, and people make the conversion every day. hell i have seen someone smoke a rock, push the brillo and clean their pipe, smoke the cav and immediately blow a meth pipe out of said crack pipe to smoke a bowl of crystal. . and the other way around.


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Fert Nitty]
    #21721213 - 05/25/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Im assuming you live somewhere towards the more western part of the US where meth is more common, where im from meth is extremely rare and in fact ive never seen it or heard about it being around once.

Explains why ive never heard of such a thing before, interesting info man!


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Re: Program offers meth pipes to drug users for free in Seattle [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721242 - 05/25/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ya Im in WA state. Meth is rampant, there is a fair share of crack too, but not like meth. I have been out of the dope game for a couple years, but if I remember correctly they had started to distribute crack pipes and brillo at some of the Seattle needle exchanges. I could be wrong on that. - brillo for sure though.


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