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Questions about my SGFC
#21693269 - 05/18/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So theres my SGFC the thing to the left is an aquarium air pump on a timer im thinking if i got the air hoses for it i could use it to pump in fresh air while im sleeping cool thing is that theres a filter on the intake another thing that ive added is led puck lights up top and of course my handy dandy squirt bottle so 3 questions really 1. Aquarium Air Pump yay or nay? 2. Are leds ok as a light source 3. Im having a tough time finding perlite without miracle-gro plant food in it and that just sounds wrong to me. Is it?
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21693319 - 05/18/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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1. Nay the SGFC is made to create it's own air currents that provide best evaporation, putting anything that forces the air to move ruins the entire point of a SGFC.
2. If the LED are rated at 6500k it should be OK but I have always heard to use CFK or fluorescent light source.
3. The miracle grow perlite is not the best for the SGFC because the pellets are so small and can plug up the holes. It will do the job though just make sure your cakes are sitting on a canning lid or foil so they are not touching the perlite.
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Yea you cant pump in air for FAE. The air pumps just cant do what we need.
In a SGFC the holes provide all the fresh air *exchange* you need. A lot of new growers see fanning and think that is what provides the fresh air exchange but no, fanning only stimulates evaporation after a misting.
Does it actually have miracle grow in it? I thought it was just MG brand.. either way yea I use it but like said above its not the best!
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: mushpunx]
#21693696 - 05/18/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My miracle grow perlite had fertilizer in it and I had to wash it extra well. That is a lot of holes. I had a lot of trouble keeping humidity high with half as many holes. Doesn't seem to be the consensus but just my two cents.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: ryoung0588]
#21693889 - 05/18/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The link in my signature gives a lot of good info on how the sgfc works
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Those puck lights don't have a very high output...I'd go to any store walmart etc. and get a 6500K rated bulb...they are cheap like 3-5 dollars. Other than that you're lookin good... I'd recommend a couple times a day/night opening that closet door and having a window open in that room for some fresh air.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
#21694143 - 05/18/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the input guys and yeah the miricle gro i saw said enriched with miracle gro for healthy plant development and im still gonna try my hardest to find organic i live in a big city so its gotta be out there and wow i didnt know that mushpunx thank you for explaining that =) and if 6500k bulbs are that cheap il have to get me one
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694186 - 05/18/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: ryoung0588]
#21694244 - 05/18/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ryoung0588 said: That is a lot of holes. I had a lot of trouble keeping humidity high with half as many holes. Doesn't seem to be the consensus but just my two cents.
SGFC specs: 1/4" holes placed every 2" on ALL 6 sides in a grid pattern...
It is what it is...
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
#21694394 - 05/18/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: Here's mine.. 
Damn i have those but mine are only 900 lumens
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: ryoung0588]
#21694406 - 05/18/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ryoung0588 said: My miracle grow perlite had fertilizer in it and I had to wash it extra well. That is a lot of holes. I had a lot of trouble keeping humidity high with half as many holes. Doesn't seem to be the consensus but just my two cents.
No need to keep the humidity high....that is not the point of the chamber....
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694410 - 05/18/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are soft white i have a daylight one though but its got a funky insert instead of a screw in this things got + and - posts and it doesnt say suitable for damp locations
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694423 - 05/18/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The damp part don't really matter since it's not IN your fc... but yeah like I said they are cheap and usually labeled as "daylight"
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694431 - 05/18/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I also live near a big city, and had trouble finding the right perlite. Maybe I just didn't look hard enough, I ended up ordering it online.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: E go death]
#21694447 - 05/18/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Will this work i can attatch a 9volt to it with alligator clips? It says natural daylight on the package
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694463 - 05/18/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You see the Kelvin rating on it "2700K"...your looking for 6500K minimum.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: E go death]
#21694481 - 05/18/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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E go death said: I also live near a big city, and had trouble finding the right perlite. Maybe I just didn't look hard enough, I ended up ordering it online.
Damn i just called Flower Pharms its a local weed growing shop they said they have 18 quart bags of all organic "Hoffman" perlite for 20 bucks and the dude asked if im doing hydroponics and i said no im growing edible mushrooms and he said they have a whole section dedicated to growing all kinds of edible and mushrooms there was a wink in his voice when he said edible... i love washington lol
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
#21694489 - 05/18/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: You see the Kelvin rating on it "2700K"...your looking for 6500K minimum.
True faqs maybe flower pharms will have one if not lowes is right across the street
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694515 - 05/18/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Flower Pharms... I googled it but the location didn't come up. What city are they in?
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694558 - 05/18/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Zuto18 said: Will this work i can attatch a 9volt to it with alligator clips? It says natural daylight on the package

That bulb requires 120v of AC, not 9v DC.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: PussyFart]
#21694667 - 05/18/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont think i should post directly what city its in but i mispelled the ph at the farms its just flower farms
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21694670 - 05/18/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just google Hydroponics shop and you should get a local result or 2 =)
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21700109 - 05/19/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So here it is =D in all of its final glory i didnt end up getting a light for it its just gonna sit under my window and let natural daylight do its thang sorry bout the orientation i tried checking and unchecking the box
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21701059 - 05/20/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks good, an extra light would be beneficial in addition to natural light. Also you may want to add more perlite I like 5 inches.
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It does look good! I would throw another inch or two of perlite in and just get a 6500K CFL bulb from the drug store and put it in an old lamp next to the FC. Also, raise it up on like a table or a dresser or something its too close to the ground!
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: mushpunx]
#21702079 - 05/20/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I agree I would definitely put another inch or two maybe even 3 of perlite and lift it up some more...rule of thumb is 6 inches on all sides for proper air flow.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
#21702210 - 05/20/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looking good. Just add a couple more inches of perlite and you should be good.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zephen]
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
#21706892 - 05/21/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: You see the Kelvin rating on it "2700K"...your looking for 6500K minimum.
That is correct...
Since I am into horticulture as well I have various styles of vegging & fowering lights. For mycology purposes I have used both 5000K CFL's as well as 4' 8000K tube style flouros that I use to veg plants with.
Each of these work fine. With 6500K bulbs being the suggested optimum.
But anything bewtween 5000K - 8000K will work just fine.
I just wouldn't recommend going under 5000K personally....
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Wow guys thanks for all your input i actually bought way more perlite than i had any buisness buying (4 cubic feet) the bags huge and all for 15$
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
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So i will add more lol and maybe i could add more pvc to the bottom to bring the ground clearence up ill look for a light but if im buyin a light this things going in the closet lol
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21707605 - 05/21/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My sgfc is in a closet. Just make sure you don't stick it up against any walls. You want lots of airflow around all 6 sides.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zephen]
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Yeah its gonna have at least 5in of space in any direction (exept the bottom but il fix that)
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zuto18]
#21707986 - 05/21/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you can manage to get more space that would be awesome!
 This is my closet! It's working pretty awesome.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zephen]
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Nice closet bro...
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
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I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Lol
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zephen]
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I think it's legit but how are you going to watch those dvds? Lol
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zephen]
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Zephen said: I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Lol
No sarcasm... I've seen some horrible closets on here...
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
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Mad Season said: I think it's legit but how are you going to watch those dvds? Lol
I barely watch them and it's a whole fucking wall of DVDs lol. I watch a lot of Netflix!
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Zephen said: I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. Lol
No sarcasm... I've seen some horrible closets on here...
Lol thanks man! I appreciate the positive feed back. I can't keep the sgfc out in a room cause my bastard cats will try sleeping on top of it!
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: Zephen]
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Lol...my cats tried that same thing... I sat there one day and squirted them with my misting bottle any time they got near it...they leave it alone now.
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Re: Questions about my SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
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Yeah my cats are assholes. Water doesn't bother two of them.
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