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Birthing/fruiting question
    #21692624 - 05/17/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

hello all, a couple more questions for you expert shroomers:

-how should I go about misting, misting str8 on the cakes or above towards the air so the water just falls on the cakes, that being said.

-after I birth the cakes, and submerge them for 24 hours, then roll them in fresh dry verm, and then place them in the SGFC, how much should I mist them that first day, ive seen many people say many different things so im wanting yalls opinion, preferably someone whose done this method before (successfully, lol)

-And after that first day, how much should I mist and fan per day?

-and when is the perfect time to harvest the fruits of my labor so that I can reuse the cakes?

-also, after the first harvest, ive read you need to re dunk AND roll to get the next flush, whats yalls opinion/experience?

any answers are appreciated, wish me luck!

-thanks


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21692648 - 05/17/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

#1- Just mist the walls of the fruiting chamber, aswell as the perlite.

#2/3- Always just fan nd mist 3-5 times a day.

#4- I always pick as the caps are completly open so i can just print them, but the phyicin or however you spell it quits increasing after the vails break, so no more potency increase after it opens.

#5- I dunk for about an hr to 4 hrs after but dont reroll after the first flush.

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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: kushroom] * 1
    #21692726 - 05/17/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Also you want to mist the dry verm after u place the cakes in the fc
every like 15 minutes to get them nice and moist
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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: kushroom]
    #21692736 - 05/17/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

#1 - Don't mist the walls. The walls aren't trying to grow but your cakes are. Mist the cakes directly, they love it.

#2 - Begin with misting and fanning 3 times a day. Depending on where you live, etc, your cakes may need more or less. Get use to noticing when they are moist and dry. Your cakes will tell you when they need it. Here's a good link for guidance on misting.

#3 - I believe majority of people harvest right before the veil tears or as it's tearing for best taste. You can pick them after the veil has broken and the cap is flat to take good spore prints. Some people do this for looks too. This link gives good examples of when to harvest from some awesome members here

#4- You want to dunk after your first flush however it's not recommended to reroll because that increases your chance of contamination.


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: jbaby007]
    #21692867 - 05/17/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

THANK YOU FOR THAT GUIDE!
still pretty new to the forums, couldn't find anything close to that, so again, thanks.  what im getting from yall is:

mist cakes at least 3 times a day after the first day, but on the first day, they will probably need more than just 3 times.

and I was going to dunk and roll after the frst flush, but not so much now, will dunk for about 12 hrs(maybe6-8) but no roll, str8 back to the chamber for them!

by the way, how long should they take to fruit completely, about 2 weeks right?


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21692898 - 05/17/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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firstTIMER420 said:
hello all, a couple more questions for you expert shroomers:

-how should I go about misting, misting str8 on the cakes or above towards the air so the water just falls on the cakes, that being said.

-after I birth the cakes, and submerge them for 24 hours, then roll them in fresh dry verm, and then place them in the SGFC, how much should I mist them that first day, ive seen many people say many different things so im wanting yalls opinion, preferably someone whose done this method before (successfully, lol)

-And after that first day, how much should I mist and fan per day?

-and when is the perfect time to harvest the fruits of my labor so that I can reuse the cakes?

-also, after the first harvest, ive read you need to re dunk AND roll to get the next flush, whats yalls opinion/experience?

any answers are appreciated, wish me luck!

-thanks



1. If your mist correctly, you're going to spray everything anyway.  So just mist until the cake glistens with moisture.  Remist before it goes completely dry.

It does not matter if you mist cubes directly or not

2. Wait 4-8 hours after placing them in the SGFC for first mist.  Then remist every time they don't glisten.  Don't let them get bone dry.

3.Before the veil breaks.  Spores make shrooms taste even worse

4. Redunk 1 day after every flush for 12-24 hours.  NEVER re-roll.  You're just casing contams.


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21692913 - 05/17/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

firstTIMER420 said:
THANK YOU FOR THAT GUIDE!
still pretty new to the forums, couldn't find anything close to that, so again, thanks.  what im getting from yall is:

mist cakes at least 3 times a day after the first day, but on the first day, they will probably need more than just 3 times.

and I was going to dunk and roll after the frst flush, but not so much now, will dunk for about 12 hrs(maybe6-8) but no roll, str8 back to the chamber for them!

by the way, how long should they take to fruit completely, about 2 weeks right?



Yes, about 2 weeks from the day of birthing.  Sometimes you get lucky.


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21692920 - 05/17/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

#1 mist so it falls on to the cakes. If it's right the over spray will mist the perlite too. You don't need to mist the walls. It'll just evaporate off the walls and into the air.. you want it to evaporate off the cakes.

#2 mist when they look dry. Keep them glistening wet. Fan after every mist. On average people need to mist 2-5 times a day. Just keep them glistening is all you gotta do.

$3 said before

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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21692926 - 05/17/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I would assume the 4-8 hr wait is because I just soaked them for 24 hrs?

and as far as the misting, im probably going to aim the mister towards the air and start squirting away, until everything is coated and the cakes glisten.

and I agree about the taste thing, shrooms taste bad regardless, but thanks for the heads up about that, didn't really think about that tbh

-thanks!


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21692948 - 05/17/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

firstTIMER420 said:
I would assume the 4-8 hr wait is because I just soaked them for 24 hrs?

and as far as the misting, im probably going to aim the mister towards the air and start squirting away, until everything is coated and the cakes glisten.

and I agree about the taste thing, shrooms taste bad regardless, but thanks for the heads up about that, didn't really think about that tbh

-thanks!



You want to get good initial evaporation to bring the cake into pinning mode.  Evaporation is a primary pinning trigger.  So in a round about way, yes, because you just soaked them 24 hours.  You want to let the cake dry out a bit before re-saturating. 

I aim my mister at the edge of the SGFC and mist in a backward sweeping motion and repeat until the cakes are glistening well but there is no standing water on the cakes.  Then I fan for 30 seconds with the lid.


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21696064 - 05/18/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

gotcha, thanks for taking time to explain, there is a lot of info on the sight but its hard to put the individual pieces together.  the mister I got isn't that good, but ill definetly try that.  by the way, I realized I screwed up pretty bad on the last jar. I was almost out of liquid so I pulled the syringe back and pulled air into it so I could see how much was left exactly, im pretty sure that jar in contamed, imma post some pics tomorrow itll be the 4th day.

not sure what the jars are supposed to look like this early but I feel like I can see some white stuff starting to colonize. will post pics tomorrow.


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21707665 - 05/21/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

heres the pics, first are clear, rest kinda suck but you can still see the white blotches. let me know what yall think:



im also gonna post pics when I think they are ready to be birthed, and yall let me know what you think.


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21712502 - 05/22/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good so far.  One question though: why are there no burn marks on the micropore tape?  Did you flame sterilize the needle last before innoculating?


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Re: Birthing/fruiting question [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21712559 - 05/22/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

there are burn marks on most of them, but I forgot to do it between 2 of the jars.  I realized it right after and marked those 2 separate from the rest.  as far as today, NONE of the jars have contams so I guess I MAY have gotten lucky, but things can change, time will tell.  its a crappy camera, and you might not be able to see it I guess :shrug: 

if you click on one of the links in my sig I think the first one, its my grow log, not the journal one.  shows exactly what I did, if you could review and let me know if I took the correct steps thatd be great!

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