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update: after 15 days the first shrooms finally started growing :)
    #21690920 - 05/17/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hello guys!

As a gift i received a 2100CC mckennai grow-kit from a close friend. originally it was meant for him but he never got around to starting it.. so after 2-3 weeks of keeping the box in his garage ( cool temps) he  gave the kit to me to start growing the mushies.


so on Thursday 7 may i soaked the kit for 8 hours, got rid of the leftover water, filled the bottom of the growing bag with 2 glasses of water and put in the kit and closed the bag. since then i have not touched the bag.

the kit is on top of my desk , outside of direct sunlight, the room temperature is always between 22 and 25 degrees ( at night it might drop in the 19-20 range)

i just don't understand what is going wrong? :frown: the first pinheads should be there after a week but all i see is 2 fluffy mycelium dots that appeared in the bottom right corner. for the rest i don't see any change at all since day 1! i can't see any changes on the middle and bottom layers of the kit because i can't see much with the water and condensation.. but shouldn't the mycelium be spreading/Growing on top? it still looks the same as when i opened the box...

could it be that the kit is dead from not using it right after it shipped? i don't see any contamination and the bag smells like a forest so that all seems fine...


here are some pictures i just took:
http://i.imgur.com/xpfo3M6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PRKGfA7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HuYCGgo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/g3ylDH9.jpg


excuses if my grammar isn't always that clear, English is not my main language

thanks in advance!

zaj


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21690996 - 05/17/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Try medicinal and edible section. This forum is for psychoactive mushrooms. Still I'd imagine it needs fresh air and water, just like our mushrooms. You can't leave it in a box and expect things to happen. It needs air and water.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21691027 - 05/17/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

mckennai are a strain of cubes, they are psychoactive.


are you guys not familiar with how grow-kits work? they are legally sold by shops to easily grow your own psilocybin  mushrooms here.

this is an instructional video of the kit i'm talking about.



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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21691050 - 05/17/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I see my bad. Not sure why I thought I read they weren't. Direct sunlight is actually great for mushrooms. I aim for around 2 hours a day of it.

You need fresh air exchange. Sitting in a bag won't cut it. It needs to be left somewhat open/fully open and you need to keep it glistening wet with misting. Keep it glistening wet by misting.

Nobody uses grow kits on this site. They're stupid and a bad way to grow. That video upset me too. Stabbing substrates with a fork?! Terrible! You're trying to mimic an outside climate with high humidity. It needs air and a little bag isn't going to do that. My advice is just take that little tray and make a shotgun fruiting chamber.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21691067 - 05/17/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yup i open the bag once every 3-4 days but the manual said i should not do that  because of contamination risks and there are multiple ventilation strips on the bag that should do the trick.  but the main question is why i don't see anything growing after 10 Days.. is it normal?


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21691075 - 05/17/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've got some trays that are in fruiting for 17 days and just saw first signs of pins. So 10 days is still fine. 1 month or more would be a problem


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21691089 - 05/17/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

also any idea what the fluffy mycelium dots are in the pictures? i hope it ain't mold :x

thanks btw!


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21691091 - 05/17/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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You need fresh air exchange. Sitting in a bag won't cut it. It needs to be left somewhat open/fully open and you need to keep it glistening wet with misting. Keep it glistening wet by misting.



The bags have filters on their sides, not sure how freely the air can get in though.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: blackout]
    #21691107 - 05/17/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I watched the video and edited it out lol. Never used a grow kit.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21691232 - 05/17/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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also any idea what the fluffy mycelium dots are in the pictures? i hope it ain't mold :x

thanks btw!




umm...  mycelium. Starting to get some knots.

I've never heard of stabbing cakes though. That will just damage and shock the mycelium and cause it to take longer yet.

Best bet for future grows would be to ditch the kits and do the PF-Tek.

Check out the RR videos from the link in my signature.
That little kit you have isn't going to produce very many mushrooms.

For a few bucks in supplies a spore print & some mason jars you can grow 10x as many...:thumbup:


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21691279 - 05/17/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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also any idea what the fluffy mycelium dots are in the pictures? i hope it ain't mold :x

thanks btw!




umm...  mycelium. Starting to get some knots.

I've never heard of stabbing cakes though. That will just damage and shock the mycelium and cause it to take longer yet.

Best bet for future grows would be to ditch the kits and do the PF-Tek.

Check out the RR videos from the link in my signature.
That little kit you have isn't going to produce very many mushrooms.

For a few bucks in supplies a spore print & some mason jars you can grow 10x as many...:thumbup:



it should produce between 500gr and 1kg per flush . the kit is bigger than it looks in the video but yeah thats the next step :smile:


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21691446 - 05/17/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I bet you 1000 dollars you won't get 1000 wet grams lol.  Mushrooms eat shit and water and grains.  They are cheap as fuck to grow.  Ditch the grow kit after this round.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Big Bear]
    #21691964 - 05/17/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I bet you 1000 dollars you won't get 1000 wet grams lol.  Mushrooms eat shit and water and grains.  They are cheap as fuck to grow.  Ditch the grow kit after this round.




I dunno man I've seen some of the european kits put up 2-3 ounces it's possible isnt it?


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21692345 - 05/17/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

That tray is pretty small.  Maybe could put our 2 zips but 3.5?  Idk.  I'm skeptical.  Good luck op post pics


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Big Bear]
    #21693418 - 05/18/15 04:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

hehe as long as i get a portion out of this i'm happy. cause at the moment nothing is growing :p


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21693429 - 05/18/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

What I'm hearing here is "My friend bought a grow kit, realized what a mistake that was, passed that incompetent shit to me and passed off as a present" :laugh2:

Meh you might or might not see something. Even if they grow, they won't anything special. Grow kits suck and you're better off just starting your own. Look up BRF and start with that

I can assure you you'll see much more positive results :super:

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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Big Bear]
    #21694715 - 05/18/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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That tray is pretty small.



The tray in the video is 1200ml, the OP's tray is 2100ml.

The site making the kit says to it is "average yield" 800g for 2100ml, and that is not per flush.

The 1200ml in the video says 500g on it, again not per flush.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: blackout]
    #21695170 - 05/18/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ok update! the first shrooms are growing but.... on the side of my box :'( it looks like the substrate started colonizing on my pastic box instead of on the cake! >.<

http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA
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http://i.imgur.com/THhDvln.jpg


i'm really worried now the whole kit might be ruined :/


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21695312 - 05/18/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I cannot even bleeve I read this entire thread


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21695319 - 05/18/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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ok update! the first shrooms are growing but.... on the side of my box :'( it looks like the substrate started colonizing on my pastic box instead of on the cake! >.<

http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA
http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA#1
http://i.imgur.com/THhDvln.jpg


i'm really worried now the whole kit might be ruined :/



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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21696830 - 05/19/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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i'm really worried now the whole kit might be ruined :/





It was ruined from the start cause you have a grow kit. I agree what professor said, the shrooms are probably growing there cause of more nutrients. I also think that's the closest your shrooms will get to FAE. I very much doubt how much that filter patch is allowing FAE

Trust me, I speak from experience. I spent a lot of money on grow kits cause I wanted something quick and easy to grow. With those bags, all I ever managed to grow was contamination.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21698205 - 05/19/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've started fanning and misting the bags twice a day since opening this topic...

but damn some people on this forum are pretty hostile. i come here asking for advice on how to make the best of what i got and not to get shit on. these grow boxes work pretty good but aren't that well documented... so that's why i ask for some tips. the companies selling them are professional growers and sell kilo's of shrooms in smart-shops every day( even the hardest to grow ones). their reputation would go under if they don't bring up the amounts as advertised.

even if i get only  200-300 grams of shrooms for the 30€ i spent on the kit... buying fresh shrooms in a shop is here  +-1€/gram fresh. people need to start somewhere... and andswers like there is not enough nutrition in the substrate don't help at all. i looked up the tek and its literaly exactly the same....


sooo.... should i leave those 2 mushrooms there or remove them with a sterile pincet? they are doomed to fall of the outside edge of the kit if they grow i guess?

thanks for the handful of helpful replies so far.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21698236 - 05/19/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I wasn't trying to sound hostile. I was trying to help you since you asked. Grow kits just give more trouble than they're worth, as you're finding out. I recommended making a sgfc and taking the tray out of the bag and putting it in the fc :smile:

You don't HAVE to mist 2 times a day. Just mist when it isn't glistening anymore. Make sure not to over mist causing pooling water over the surface and then fan to try to get it to evaporate off the surface. Mist when it isn't glistening anymore. The fanning is to cause evaporation. The holes in the bag should do fae. Maybe poke a few more holes into the bag? I can't really say though without seeing pics of the pins and the tray


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21698247 - 05/19/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

you are one of the helpful posters :wink:

there are no pins yet appart from those 2 growing on the side of my box. i will try to get some clear pictures now.


http://i.imgur.com/Okge7m0.jpg
this is how my kit looks now after i soaked it 10 days ago

http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA
these are the only 2 pins that have showed up so far and they are on the plastic on the outside :x


but as i said before using the kit it was sitting in my friend's garage for 2-3 weeks maybe that caused the mycelium to die? i don't know... since those 2 pins showed up now


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21698571 - 05/19/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Honestly I can't really see in the bag but you should just get your fruiting conditions as optimal as possible (67ish-78ish degrees F, most FAE you can get, 12 hours of light a day with either the sun or a 6500k bulb, and a moist substrate) and then just see what happens.  I wouldn't worry too much about it climbing up the walls.  Hope you get some fruits.


Then after you can spend 50 euro and get PF TEK materials and pull down 120g a month every month until you die for pretty much free (minus cost of verm and brf).  Or you can go directly to grains and get a PC and never look back.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Big Bear]
    #21698591 - 05/19/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Idk man I can see some knots on the surface so I'd say give it a bit and you'll see more pins. It almost always starts with 1 or 2 pins. I still think you can probably poke a few more holes in the bag. Other than that it's looking good to me :shrug: maybe don't mist so often. Wait til it's looking no longer moist.

Water logging isn't good just like too dry.

It's better to mist a small amount and take 3 hours to evaporate than go over board and take 2 days.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21698673 - 05/19/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I wasn't being hostile and if I came off as that I do apologize. I honestly didn't want to be mean.

I've spent my fair share on mushroom kits and whenever I see stories like these I try to encourage to just move to bulk grow. It's a lot less trouble and grow kits for me have been a lot more trouble. Only years later did I finally make the investment in knowledge and materials to get into bulk grow and I don't regret it.

I can bet you that the kilos of mushrooms those shops are selling are not grown in small kits. My question is what's the hold up?

If there is pinning then the mycelium is not dead yet.

Your best bet would be to just construct an SGFC like Mad said and put the tray in there. That bag and it's filter patch are probably not allowing enough FAE that causes the myc to pin and thusly has likely stalled development which eventually will lead to contam. The small pins growing on the edge is probably good evidence of this as they might be growing towards where is the most of FAE.

If you want to see some fruits, I highly suggest you make an SGFC and move the tray in there.

You don't need sterility. The myc is supposedly establish and it will be very resistant to contam. Just use a pair of gloves to reduce risk and move it to an SGFC

Mist enough to allow small glistening globes to appear on the surface of the colonized mycelium. It's better to have a sub which is on the drier side rather than a water logged tray.

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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21698693 - 05/19/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Revok]
    #21701233 - 05/20/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Try uploading pictures instead of links.



can't do that. if i do that  1/10th of the picture fills ur whole screen and this thread is unreadable. clicking a link ain't that hard?


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Your best bet would be to just construct an SGFC like Mad said and put the tray in there. That bag and it's filter patch are probably not allowing enough FAE that causes the myc to pin and thusly has likely stalled development which eventually will lead to contam. The small pins growing on the edge is probably good evidence of this as they might be growing towards where is the most of FAE.
I hope this was more helpful



thank you :smile: maybe i should have just more patience... a 3 more pins showed up but also on the damn plastic >.< ( atleast those are growing inward now) how many times a day should i fan the whole thing?

but building a big chamber is out of the question for now. i still live at home and my parent's weren't already exactly happy that i came home with this small portable kit... if i start with those big homemade constructions they might get it in their heads i'm trying to become a drug dealer or w/e.


http://i.imgur.com/t68t7rm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IQht9Wn.jpg

here are some sharper images of the substrate. it looks healty but shouldn't it be fully white on top from colonisation ? i mean if there are pins showing up on the plastic, shouldn't there atleast be some on my substrate too? its been 11 days now since i started the  fruiting stage.


i think only 20% of my top layer of substrate has been colonized


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21701776 - 05/20/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need anything huge or big. It's just one tray. Go buy a 20L tote box and drill 1/4" inch holes in a grid like fashion on all six sides of the enclosure about 2" apart. Buy a bag of perlite and hydrate it and create about a 4inch layer of perlite and sit the tray on top.

I believe you should be fanning it at least 4 times a day

I think if the substrate isn't 100% colonized there won't be any pinning. However I would let some one with more experience chime in on this one


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #21702625 - 05/20/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Grow kits often come with poor simplistic instructions. Same with homebrew beer kits. If you look on a homebrew forum they will advise you to ignore the manufacturers instructions and to follow their more detailed advice, which usually ends up taking longer to prepare and longer to brew -but worth it.

Often they want it to seem easier than it is, or give information that will give you something but it will be suboptimal. Same happens with microwave meals, more and more I see them telling you to do extra steps like take it out and add water and stir, let sit for 2mins and microwave again for 3mins etc. A good grow kit should tell you the minimum work needed and the optimal, to suit both types of buyers, though a lazy grower is more suited to sclerotia / stones . Fanning is well recommended if growing in a bag like this.


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    #21703111 - 05/20/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Seriously? Stones are much easier to cultivate than cubes?

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    #21703128 - 05/20/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

No need lol. Inject spores into jar like you would with cubes and let it sit 3-6 months. No fruiting chambers or anything. All the sclerotia will form in the colonizing jars. Harvest whenever you want to trip.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21705538 - 05/21/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

the first pin on the substrate has appeared ! i'm so happy now ^^. the fanning seemed to help alot!


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    #21705681 - 05/21/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:rockon: evaporation off the surface is the pinning trigger so good job mate :smile:. Keep up with it and you'll see a lot more follow suit. It always just starts with 1 or 2 pins :wink:


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    #21706119 - 05/21/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Damn I should have started with those! I know what I'll be growing for the winter season :solidnod:

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    #21715025 - 05/23/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

here with an update. does everything look fine ?




pretty dissapointed with the amounts of pins that have showed up :frown: it's been 15 days since fruiting now . theres also 1 big mushroom growing upside down in the side of the box..  but really? 5 mushrooms from a kit that is supossed to bring forth 500-800 grams a flush is a bit sad :x


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    #21715035 - 05/23/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

They're starving :frown: they need air badly! Have you punched more holes into the bag or not? Why haven't you made a shotgun fc? Evaporation is the pinning trigger and it needs fae to evaporate :frown:


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21715065 - 05/23/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

how are they starving? i'm fanning every 3 hours and misting once a day + there are 6 air strips on the bag. won't i get contamination if i cut a hole in the bag? i really don't get it.. my friend used the same kit and he got 600 Gram his first flush and he literaly did nothing! he just put a liter of water in the bag, put the kit in and left it there for 4 weeks..

and a sgfc is out of the question for now. this is is a one time thing until i get my own place to live :x


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    #21715111 - 05/23/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Fanning isn't for fae it's for evaporation. If you want to fan for fae do it every 20 minutes because it's supposed to be constantly exchanged of co2.

Long skinny pins are always because they're reaching out for air. Mycelium is strong enough to fight off contamination spores. I basically fruit in open air. So it's fine to punch more holes.


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    #21715127 - 05/23/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i will make some holes in the bag then, is it a problem for my second flush ? and what about the humidity? if theres a constant exchange of air wouldn't the humidity go down?


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    #21715142 - 05/23/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes. Is it 99% humid in Florida all the time? No. They can fruit in low humidity. I aim for 85-95%. What your goal is is 99% surface humidity done with misting, then the overall humidity being lower so the surface humidity can evaporate. That's the best way to get a great flush.


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    #21715172 - 05/23/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

so i took a knife and punched 2 5 mm holes in the bag.. i hope thats enough to get started?


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    #21715176 - 05/23/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

A lot more will follow suit if you can get more fae and a few more flushes too fingers crossed :P

Just keep it glistening wet by misting and it will go wild


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    #21717623 - 05/24/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

counting 24 pins so far =)


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
    #21717727 - 05/24/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Congrats on getting some air to those puppies and finally getting some pins. In regards to your post about how your friends got around 600g, IMO freak strike of luck as it's always with these grow kits. Its a hit and miss.:shrug:

I believe it was big bear who said you won't get as much as you think and with the lack of proper FAE you are not helping the situation either.

You know how plants stretch and become long, white and whispy when they don't have proper amounts of light? Same concept, only the culprit is fresh air. Mushrooms will stretch in an attempt to reach for fresher air. I had also suggested that the pins growing on the plastic was because of lack of FAE. The culprit is lack of FAE.

Hopefully now, with some punctured holes, you may get a decent yield :super: at least it was free right? :biggrin:


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    #21717803 - 05/24/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:rockon: I bet you'll see even more too :]


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21717816 - 05/24/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

That actually makes me wonder.

OP left a good amount of CO2 build up, to the point where it was extremely starved of fresh air.

Now fresh new air suddenly came in.... I'm willing to bet it will now explode and start popping like syphilis :laugh2:


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It always does lol. At least for me :smile:


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    #21721170 - 05/25/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)




growing progress. there are 2 blue-greenish colored one i guess they are aborts ? i hope they aren't contaminated. is the sideway growing because of still not having enough air? or because they grow toward the light


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Hard to say. Some say light some say air. Personally I think both are to play as well as genetics/where it pinned


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    #21722414 - 05/25/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

and what about the weird shrooms? i guess those are aborts.. should i remove them?


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    #21722466 - 05/25/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think they are. My first mushrooms had green caps like that and blew me through the roof. It was an amazing trip so I'd just keep them around.


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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21723282 - 05/26/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think he's experiencing side pinning due to the cake shrinking due to FAE and since it's not on any kind of liner it left space where the mushrooms are growing. Mushrooms grow towards the light, as most of us already know and again since no liner they are just growing where there is space, light and good FAE ? :shrug:

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    #21731211 - 05/28/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)




these looking good? anything i could do better? this is day 21 now after fruiting


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more fresh air. build a sgfc :super:


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    #21732729 - 05/28/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

is it actually normal that pins keep popping up? theres already some shrooms that are 3+ inches tall.


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    #21732853 - 05/28/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yea its fine, start picking them when the veils are breaking. You don't want them to dump spores on your mycelium while the others are still growing.


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    #21732978 - 05/28/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

if i dunk for the second flush should i pick the pins that haven't grown too? the ones that are like half an inch big? or just pick the big ones and extend the first flush


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    #21733570 - 05/28/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Leave the pins. With MS you tend to get random growth like this, so we pick them when they are ready. It's possible to have one long continuous flush. When people have distinct separate flushes it is usually a from a clone, so the genetics in the sub are similar or the same throughout. You could have thousands of different varieties growing off of your sub so they can look pretty different and grow differently as well.


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