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zaj
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update: after 15 days the first shrooms finally started growing :)
#21690920 - 05/17/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello guys!
As a gift i received a 2100CC mckennai grow-kit from a close friend. originally it was meant for him but he never got around to starting it.. so after 2-3 weeks of keeping the box in his garage ( cool temps) he gave the kit to me to start growing the mushies.
so on Thursday 7 may i soaked the kit for 8 hours, got rid of the leftover water, filled the bottom of the growing bag with 2 glasses of water and put in the kit and closed the bag. since then i have not touched the bag.
the kit is on top of my desk , outside of direct sunlight, the room temperature is always between 22 and 25 degrees ( at night it might drop in the 19-20 range)
i just don't understand what is going wrong? the first pinheads should be there after a week but all i see is 2 fluffy mycelium dots that appeared in the bottom right corner. for the rest i don't see any change at all since day 1! i can't see any changes on the middle and bottom layers of the kit because i can't see much with the water and condensation.. but shouldn't the mycelium be spreading/Growing on top? it still looks the same as when i opened the box...
could it be that the kit is dead from not using it right after it shipped? i don't see any contamination and the bag smells like a forest so that all seems fine...
here are some pictures i just took: http://i.imgur.com/xpfo3M6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PRKGfA7.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HuYCGgo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/g3ylDH9.jpg
excuses if my grammar isn't always that clear, English is not my main language
thanks in advance!
zaj
Edited by zaj (05/23/15 05:56 PM)
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21690996 - 05/17/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Try medicinal and edible section. This forum is for psychoactive mushrooms. Still I'd imagine it needs fresh air and water, just like our mushrooms. You can't leave it in a box and expect things to happen. It needs air and water.
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
#21691027 - 05/17/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mckennai are a strain of cubes, they are psychoactive.
are you guys not familiar with how grow-kits work? they are legally sold by shops to easily grow your own psilocybin mushrooms here.
this is an instructional video of the kit i'm talking about.
Edited by zaj (05/17/15 03:43 PM)
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21691050 - 05/17/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I see my bad. Not sure why I thought I read they weren't. Direct sunlight is actually great for mushrooms. I aim for around 2 hours a day of it.
You need fresh air exchange. Sitting in a bag won't cut it. It needs to be left somewhat open/fully open and you need to keep it glistening wet with misting. Keep it glistening wet by misting.
Nobody uses grow kits on this site. They're stupid and a bad way to grow. That video upset me too. Stabbing substrates with a fork?! Terrible! You're trying to mimic an outside climate with high humidity. It needs air and a little bag isn't going to do that. My advice is just take that little tray and make a shotgun fruiting chamber.
Edited by Mad Season (05/17/15 03:49 PM)
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
#21691067 - 05/17/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yup i open the bag once every 3-4 days but the manual said i should not do that because of contamination risks and there are multiple ventilation strips on the bag that should do the trick. but the main question is why i don't see anything growing after 10 Days.. is it normal?
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21691075 - 05/17/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've got some trays that are in fruiting for 17 days and just saw first signs of pins. So 10 days is still fine. 1 month or more would be a problem
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
#21691089 - 05/17/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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also any idea what the fluffy mycelium dots are in the pictures? i hope it ain't mold :x
thanks btw!
Edited by zaj (05/17/15 03:55 PM)
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Mad Season]
#21691091 - 05/17/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: You need fresh air exchange. Sitting in a bag won't cut it. It needs to be left somewhat open/fully open and you need to keep it glistening wet with misting. Keep it glistening wet by misting.
The bags have filters on their sides, not sure how freely the air can get in though.
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: blackout]
#21691107 - 05/17/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I watched the video and edited it out lol. Never used a grow kit.
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21691232 - 05/17/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zaj said: also any idea what the fluffy mycelium dots are in the pictures? i hope it ain't mold :x
thanks btw!
umm... mycelium. Starting to get some knots.
I've never heard of stabbing cakes though. That will just damage and shock the mycelium and cause it to take longer yet.
Best bet for future grows would be to ditch the kits and do the PF-Tek.
Check out the RR videos from the link in my signature. That little kit you have isn't going to produce very many mushrooms.
For a few bucks in supplies a spore print & some mason jars you can grow 10x as many...
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#21691279 - 05/17/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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FreeWorldOrder said:
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zaj said: also any idea what the fluffy mycelium dots are in the pictures? i hope it ain't mold :x
thanks btw!
umm... mycelium. Starting to get some knots.
I've never heard of stabbing cakes though. That will just damage and shock the mycelium and cause it to take longer yet.
Best bet for future grows would be to ditch the kits and do the PF-Tek.
Check out the RR videos from the link in my signature. That little kit you have isn't going to produce very many mushrooms.
For a few bucks in supplies a spore print & some mason jars you can grow 10x as many...
it should produce between 500gr and 1kg per flush . the kit is bigger than it looks in the video but yeah thats the next step
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21691446 - 05/17/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I bet you 1000 dollars you won't get 1000 wet grams lol. Mushrooms eat shit and water and grains. They are cheap as fuck to grow. Ditch the grow kit after this round.
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Big Bear]
#21691964 - 05/17/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Big Bear said: I bet you 1000 dollars you won't get 1000 wet grams lol. Mushrooms eat shit and water and grains. They are cheap as fuck to grow. Ditch the grow kit after this round.
I dunno man I've seen some of the european kits put up 2-3 ounces it's possible isnt it?
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21692345 - 05/17/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That tray is pretty small. Maybe could put our 2 zips but 3.5? Idk. I'm skeptical. Good luck op post pics
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Big Bear]
#21693418 - 05/18/15 04:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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hehe as long as i get a portion out of this i'm happy. cause at the moment nothing is growing :p
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21693429 - 05/18/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I'm hearing here is "My friend bought a grow kit, realized what a mistake that was, passed that incompetent shit to me and passed off as a present" 
Meh you might or might not see something. Even if they grow, they won't anything special. Grow kits suck and you're better off just starting your own. Look up BRF and start with that
I can assure you you'll see much more positive results 
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: Big Bear]
#21694715 - 05/18/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Big Bear said: That tray is pretty small.
The tray in the video is 1200ml, the OP's tray is 2100ml.
The site making the kit says to it is "average yield" 800g for 2100ml, and that is not per flush.
The 1200ml in the video says 500g on it, again not per flush.
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: blackout]
#21695170 - 05/18/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok update! the first shrooms are growing but.... on the side of my box :'( it looks like the substrate started colonizing on my pastic box instead of on the cake! >.<
http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA#1 http://i.imgur.com/THhDvln.jpg
i'm really worried now the whole kit might be ruined :/
Edited by zaj (05/18/15 04:48 PM)
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21695312 - 05/18/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I cannot even bleeve I read this entire thread
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Re: day 10 since soaking growkit, nothing yet :( (first time grower) [Re: zaj]
#21695319 - 05/18/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zaj said: ok update! the first shrooms are growing but.... on the side of my box :'( it looks like the substrate started colonizing on my pastic box instead of on the cake! >.<
http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA http://imgur.com/5zVLyhr,2zepPuA#1 http://i.imgur.com/THhDvln.jpg
i'm really worried now the whole kit might be ruined :/
probly bcuz the plastic box is more nutrient rich than the substrate
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