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 Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus 
#21690919 - 05/17/15 05:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi all so I was wondering how exactly one would determine which is a trich and which is a cereus. I found this cactus at the grocery store and I remembered seeing pictures of a Peruvian torch...the people at the plant section didn't know what it was so I figured I would do some research first and I found that it looks a lot like a cereus Peruvianus except that the spines aren't exactly white. So if anyone can help me to identify this cactus I would appreciate it very much. Much thanks!
 
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: Mtndrew]
#21690934 - 05/17/15 05:10 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: ferrel_human]
#21690965 - 05/17/15 05:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you! Also how can you tell?
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: Mtndrew]
#21691019 - 05/17/15 05:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thin ribs
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: ferrel_human]
#21691046 - 05/17/15 05:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea your not gonna find trichs like that at walmart. I almost bought one of those to work with this season but decided the price was to high for a cereus
Also if you look real low "near the bottom" on the pot at one side there is a small sticker with an abbreviation of the plant name on it.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: spaceman101]
#21691081 - 05/17/15 05:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you very much! And yeah it was at h-e-b and I figured it be more legit here in texas but all we really have growing here is opuntia lol oh well it still looks pretty nice for 15$
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: Mtndrew]
#21691110 - 05/17/15 05:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Never heard of h-e-b? same ones they have at HellMart though so I would figure the lil label would still be there.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: spaceman101]
#21691292 - 05/17/15 06:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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See how the ribs are perfectly flat? Pedro will be rounded. Still a cool cactus though and if it's a peruvian apple cereus then someday it will give you edible fruits that are supposed to be really good.
If you want trichocereus your best bet is to go online and order cuttings, there are some vendors that support this site who sell them, and also ebay.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: Mtndrew]
#21691786 - 05/17/15 08:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: spaceman101]
#21692319 - 05/17/15 10:53 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Never heard of h-e-b? same ones they have at HellMart though so I would figure the lil label would still be there.
HEB is like walmart, but it doesn't come with the standard issue walmart people. Also they're cheaper. Also they're nicer. Also I love HEB and I wish it was available here in the North East.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: Oggy]
#21692347 - 05/17/15 10:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Heb is only in Texas and Mexico at this time.
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Enough off topic people. Here every town within a 30 mile radius has an heb. Nuff said. People are gonna start getting into trouble.
I love the cereus. When it flowers and has been pollinated, the damn thing looks like a Xmas tree with red ball ornaments. I wen to this party once and the house in the front had one with a base as thick as a red wood. Well maybe it's an exaggeration but it's a site to behold when a cactus is bigger than am oak tree.
My suggestion is plant it in the ground. Preferably somewhere where it can grow to immense size. Seeing as you are in Texas the thing can stay out year round.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: ferrel_human]
#21692424 - 05/17/15 11:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do people get bases on columnar cactus that big?
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: spaceman101]
#21692436 - 05/17/15 11:26 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do people get bases on columnar cactus that big?
Start with one cutting. Them just let it go without ever cutting it. That's what I think. Columnar cacti are different though. Cereus grows side branches. Not really frm the base like columnars. On the way to my uncles house there are 2 big cereus. Next time I go I'm gonna snap a shot or 2. Big tree size trunks on them. Beautiful.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: ferrel_human]
#21692650 - 05/18/15 12:29 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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please do. I've always wandered this like along the line of is it in the genetics of that particular clone mixed with ideal conditions? IMU once a cutting grows past a certain point "with trichs especially" that area will stay the same width no matter what you do right?
If so how far would you have to push a trich to get that huge in that short amount of time?
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: spaceman101]
#21692723 - 05/18/15 12:48 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Time is what causes the thick trunks on columnar cactus. Nothing but time will achieve this. The bases get thick as a result of having to hold up so much weight. The cells thicken over time, more cholla wood is formed in the base to support all the top growth. I'm talking about in ground specimens. You will never achieve this in pots, which can never grow to their true potential.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: karode13]
#21692772 - 05/18/15 01:01 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So as the growth point moves ahead on an in ground specimine the lower old growth areas can continue to swell but not due to the actual growth of the cactus but instead just swelling of the cells right?
I've always tried to wrap my mind around this.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: karode13]
#21692836 - 05/18/15 01:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Time is what causes the thick trunks on columnar cactus. Nothing but time will achieve this. The bases get thick as a result of having to hold up so much weight. The cells thicken over time, more cholla wood is formed in the base to support all the top growth. I'm talking about in ground specimens. You will never achieve this in pots, which can never grow to their true potential.
I make a disservice to my trichs. I'm gonna start growing more in ground. I got a nice little trich garden. Very small patch though but I got start going  with my trichs so they show up where people don't expect.
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: ferrel_human]
#21702574 - 05/20/15 04:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the help everyone!    
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Re: Need help identifying t. Peruvianus/cereus [Re: Mtndrew]
#21703612 - 05/20/15 09:08 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So as the growth point moves ahead on an in ground specimine the lower old growth areas can continue to swell but not due to the actual growth of the cactus but instead just swelling of the cells right?
Not really swelling of the cells, I used the wrong term there, although I'm sure some non-woody parts do become thicker as well. The woody parts inside the column, that form the skeleton of the cactus and what keeps them from falling over, will become thicker in time in response to all the top weight that is produced. The base becomes gnarled and deformed. Like this:
The size of this plant:
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