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Supachopped719
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VivaLaMushie
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: Zombi3]
#21720349 - 05/25/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Feel better soon, buddy.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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We also live longer, have lower infant and child mortality rates. Out perform the states on recovery rates from a broad spectrum of diseases, and nobody dies from being uninsured. Of which 44,000 people do in the states annually. Privatized healthcare sucks.
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zappaisgod
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: VivaLaMushie] 2
#21720369 - 05/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: Feel better soon, buddy.
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zappaisgod
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Bodhi of Ankou said: We also live longer, have lower infant and child mortality rates. Out perform the states on recovery rates from a broad spectrum of diseases, and nobody dies from being uninsured. Of which 44,000 people do in the states annually. Privatized healthcare sucks.
Nobody dies from being uninsured and our infant mortality rates are unrelated to our health care system. It is our population that does that.
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#21720405 - 05/25/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol at nobody dies from being uninsured!!!!
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larry.fisherman
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720410 - 05/25/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Most Canadians do not pay enough in taxes to cover their health costs. They are freeloaders. They are being covered by the few. And a huge number of Americans get health costs paid by the government either through medicare or medicaid or they have health insurance paid by their employer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_in_the_United_States
"According to the United States Census Bureau, roughly 55% obtain insurance through an employer, while about 10% purchase it directly."
Most Canadians? What? What exactly do you think the average use for a hospital is? If anything the majority pay more than needed. You sound like you just like to complain because you don't like the taxes and the current federal budgets.
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720416 - 05/25/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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People die from being uninsured all the time http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
Heres a prime example of people literally being left to die over insurance
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/-man-denied-life-saving-surgery-over-26-cent-insurance-dispute--212103627.html
I could even pull up incidents where people who are in critical need of care literally get carted out of the hospital cause they dont have any insurance. Its sickening. Theres simply no need, our government even pays less per person then the states, and no ones being to told to go curl up in a corner and die because they dont make a lot of money.
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Supachopped719 said: Lol at nobody dies from being uninsured!!!!
People who aint insured generally dont go to the hospital or docs for weird pains or symtoms and refuse to go unless it gets really serious and urgent
I dont go to the doctor much cause my insurance sucks barely pays for shit
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VivaLaMushie
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He's an old man. He has nothing else to do BUT complain
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zappaisgod
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Bodhi of Ankou said: People die from being uninsured all the time http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/
"Associated with" does not mean "caused by"Quote:
Heres a prime example of people literally being left to die over insurance "Associated with"
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/-man-denied-life-saving-surgery-over-26-cent-insurance-dispute--212103627.html
He has insurance. He didn't die from thisQuote:
I could even pull up incidents where people who are in critical need of care literally get carted out of the hospital cause they dont have any insurance. Its sickening. Theres simply no need, our government even pays less per person then the states, and no ones being to told to go curl up in a corner and die because they dont make a lot of money.
Our hospitals cannot turn anybody out because they can't pay. You pay less for a host of reasons, one of which is that full paying Americans subsidize the cost of your drugs. Another huge factor is demographics.
Nice job killing people
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wait times for medically necessary care in Canada between 1993 and 2009 may have resulted in between 25,456 and 63,090
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720490 - 05/25/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Look at what the VA centers are doing.
To our own fucking veterans.
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zappaisgod
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XLCaps said:
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zappaisgod said: Most Canadians do not pay enough in taxes to cover their health costs. They are freeloaders. They are being covered by the few. And a huge number of Americans get health costs paid by the government either through medicare or medicaid or they have health insurance paid by their employer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_in_the_United_States
"According to the United States Census Bureau, roughly 55% obtain insurance through an employer, while about 10% purchase it directly."
Most Canadians? What? What exactly do you think the average use for a hospital is? If anything the majority pay more than needed. You sound like you just like to complain because you don't like the taxes and the current federal budgets.
I don't think the government should be involved. Look at the VA. And you are right. I want to pay for my health care, not some jerkoff who takes way too many specious drugs or some other asshole who freeclimbs and falls off a rock. Why should I subsidize their risky behavior? I don't do that shit and I think the people who do make such choioces should be stuck with the bill. If they know that they will get fucked that way maybe they will get their heads out of their asses.
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: AcidBath]
#21720506 - 05/25/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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AcidBath said: Right on Canada's health care system sucks dick compared to the states. Why do you think the states have so many Canadian doctors? Most of Canada's doctors aren't even educated in the west. I am not biased, I have lived in both countries, and seen up close the workings and going ons in each countries health care systems. The us military has socialized health care, how's that working out? Have you been to a US Dr recently? If you pay for your own healthcare, you would have noticed like I have, the price has almost tripled since the new healthcare system was in initiated. Yet, My 78 year old aunt on a fixed income can't afford to get proper treatment because her Medicines are under patent with no generics. The problem is not the doctors and surgeons... Its the companies that charge ridiculous prices for their products. If I were president I'd scrap the socialized Medicine program and put that money towards a tax funded medical research program. All developments and subsequent patents would be property of the people. Free to citizens only to be sold to foreign nations. Every clinic would have a pharmacy bought for with a "Dr tax".
The va is shit because no one cares about the Warriors, they care about making money, winning or losing comes 2nd to making money. The va has had tons of scandals, how many stories have you heard of vets being totally shit on by the va?
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zappaisgod
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#21720515 - 05/25/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: Look at what the VA centers are doing.
To our own fucking veterans.
Exactly right. By the way, RIP Frederick J Burns, left behind by the fucking Marines. http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/19/nyregion/with-return-of-remains-a-closure.html
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rxb
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its halarious what propaganda will do.
yes people die because they are underinsured. there are treatments available they cant afford, if they are afraid to go seek help and wait too long because they are afraid of losing their houses.
you can go on and on with indirect deaths YOU HAVE TO KNOW are related to poverty and lack of free healthcare.
in the uk, if you have the flu you see the doc. they dont spread flu like we do. people die of flu all the time.
on and on you can go.
so the people who are against socialized health care (and shrug i really dont have a dog in that race either but im not on EITHER side of the fence) say "oh there is nothing wrong with this clearly broken system"
it just shows where they get their info and who they are brainwashed by.
the fact is that the united states of america healthcare system is worse than some 2nd world countries. and thats nothing to be proud of, it doesnt really matter that you lose your house paying for it, what matters is its not very good. (still better than nothing).
compared to the british system or the canadian system our healthcare is a joke. and its an over priced joke.
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720548 - 05/25/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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VivaLaMushie said: Look at what the VA centers are doing.
To our own fucking veterans.
Exactly right. By the way, RIP Frederick J Burns, left behind by the fucking Marines. http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/19/nyregion/with-return-of-remains-a-closure.html
My cousin.
Sorry, I really feel for all the young people full of ideals that get churned into mental and physical pulp by buying into the lies and becoming cogs in the war machine.
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: Dark_Star]
#21720553 - 05/25/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I work in a US hospital, and >90% of my patients are from other countries. They leave their home countries to go to European hospitals; who then in turn refer them to us, because they can't offer the same quality of care that we can. Yup, American healthcare sucks. 
It does. I've lived in Canada and the US and the US is an embarrassment. The only reasons Americas think they have a great system is because Americans can't believe the rest of the world does a better job. It's also the reason things will never get better. Ego.
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: rxb] 2
#21720555 - 05/25/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Job killing free loaders 
Nobody here cares. Our system is infinitely superior.
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VivaLaMushie
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Re: My feet are fucking freezing! [Re: koods]
#21720561 - 05/25/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Leggo my ego, koods.
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