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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21849851 - 06/24/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that is some extraordinarily blue myc...

You gotta let us know how potent those guys are... shoot - make a tea out of the myc!  lol...


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: meowshroom]
    #21849913 - 06/24/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Haha oh meow. I guess you could, since it is just cakes. I work with manure so imagining making tea out of it is pretty barf worthy haha.

I don't want to seem like I'm nitpicking, but for the future and for your own mushies too.. you shouldn't gauge potency on the bluing. Some of the most potent guys I've had would barely bruise, if at all. Some could bruise a lot and be really weak. Lots of different speculations. Personally this is my favorite.

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mycelium bruises blue and there's plenty of studies that find almost no actives in the mycelium. variegatic acid and other non active indoles are probably at play.




You can go ahead and dunk it. It won't hurt the pins. It shouldn't at least. If you are going to be really cautious, just mist it again and make sure the bottom holes agent plugged because it's dry. It should recover if it gets hydrated again :smile:


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21849996 - 06/24/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

what do you mean by "If you are going to be really cautious, just mist it again and make sure the bottom holes agent plugged because it's dry. It should recover if it gets hydrated again :smile: "

you mean do that after I dunk?

also, I thik im going to pick the fruits that are ready off and then dunk the remaining, good idea?

and, if there are aborts should I pick them before or after the dunk?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21850008 - 06/24/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Good idea. I was just saying that some paranoid people don't dunk when there's pins because they got aborts once. Personally I haven't had it be an issue and I don't even believe it's what caused the aborts.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21850021 - 06/24/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I might have a couple small aborts, probably fro being too dry, should I pick them before dunking or after?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21850150 - 06/24/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Now would be a good time to sit those blue cakes in a saucer of water rather than risk aborting those fruits.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21850411 - 06/24/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

should I do that in the FC or out?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21864838 - 06/27/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ok well, im on the 4th flush and only 2 of the cakes are performing, but some have this weird yellow tint to them, I think it may be bacteria, and I think its time to let these cakes go.  These plates worked well and didn't cause FAE problems, and now I think I have(what looks like) FAE problems and can tell by the fuzzy stems.  Didn't have this last flush, have it now. 

On the positive side some of the bruising went away, but the weird yellow color combined with the apparent FAE problem tells me these cakes are about done, what do you guys think?

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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21864898 - 06/27/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like they're reaching their end. I've also noticed a lot more fuzzy feet on later flushes like you said. I think it's because it takes longer to mature. I've noticed after a certain point growth seems to stall and they get super fuckin fuzzy.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21864959 - 06/27/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yup yup, ill give these guys till the morning then go plant them outside.  im gonna birth my Mexi cub jars tomorrow 4/6 so im excited about that

for now, 4.2g of B+ down the hatch!


what do you think that yellowish color shit is?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21864995 - 06/27/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Drying/dying mycelium. Mist it until it's glistening :smile:


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21865042 - 06/27/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

theres no way, I just took them out of a 24hr soak and mist... wtf. im starting to dislike these cakes lol


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21865051 - 06/27/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Haha oh but it is true :P seriously though, later flushes.. they just can't seem to get enough hydration. I almost douse them in water and it still seems to be not enough haha. Your cakes pumped out a lot so it's not surprising they're loving the hydration. Bulk is way more lenient with hydration due to the amount of water and size of substrate. I find bulk is way easier in fruiting. You'll love it way more.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21865063 - 06/27/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As the cakes age yellowing is common. Your cakes were already through the mill. I wouldn't expect a whole lot from them at this point Maybe a couple more flushes. Your first flush should be your best anyway.Its okay it takes time to get them down.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21865068 - 06/27/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just saw those harvest pics you posted, :aweyeah:
:dancer:

I bought my monotubs today, 66L each, im also ordering the rye  berries and gypsum as well, time to get this party started!

im thinking about going with the RTV lids with polyfill.. what lids do you use?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21865074 - 06/27/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

like I said, im going to give them till morning to grow a lil bit more, the main reason is I don't want any contams to take advantage of the old cakes before I take my new ones out and start fruiting those.

hey pasty, imam ask you too what kind of lids do you use for grains/find is the best?  Like I said I think im going to use PP's tek the RTV silicone/polyfill, since I already have both.

also, how many flushes do you usually give cakes before taking them down?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21865080 - 06/27/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I use SFD and CFDs for my lids and I don't use SHIPs for my grain jars. Professor pinheads tek is fine but not my preference. But to get your feet wet its fine.

Let the cakes go until they can't anymore.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21865177 - 06/27/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I just saw those harvest pics you posted, :aweyeah:
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If you're talking to me, then thanks man. I've never had this much in 2 days before haha. My dehydrator and drying rack can't take it all.

I bought my monotubs today, 66L each, im also ordering the rye  berries and gypsum as well, time to get this party started!
great grain choice! Gotta tell me how it works out for ya :smile: I wanna try rye one day.

im thinking about going with the RTV lids with polyfill.. what lids do you use?
I just quadruple layer mp tape before putting in the pc. It's been reusable too. Just needs a paper towel and foil to keep the lid dry during the cycle. I heard poly works great as well. I would like to upgrade to sfd and cfd soon though. Just don't like getting things mailed to me. As for the SHIP, I don't use one either, since I do everything in a sab and mostly do a2g. Good luck though :smile:





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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21865184 - 06/27/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

cellulose filters work fine? good I was researching those online and wondering if they would be interchangeable.

I cant seem to find a good supplier of SFD, the one I was going to order from ran out.  You think CFD would be a good replacement/work well for grain jars?

Im also getting Non-GMO organic rye berries and there are so many teks out there for preparation out there I was thinking about just following rr's tek, so far, his vids haven't steered me wrong at all.


Side Note: 4g of b+ seems like a good dose, give it another hour and well be able to tell for sure.


so, from what im gathering its a bad idea to use SHIP's in a SAB?  If so(say it aint so..), what is a good alternative?

btw, what the hell you gonna do with all that?! its enough to last ME for years lol


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21865204 - 06/27/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you're using a sab just crack the lid. SHIPs are a pain,  I only use them on LC lids.


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