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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21819665 - 06/17/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Gotcha. I will give em a light mist tomorrow, unfortunately I gave them a moderate mist and this pic was about 20 minutes after. You are saying that is too wet?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21819846 - 06/17/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

don't know if it's too wet, but based on your watering habits... yes.


Try going light, 2 times a day.  If you sacrifice a little humidity for more FAE (in re: to what was said about open air growing) you will produce excellent fruits.

You're all set up - just knock em down!

Also, can I change my guess to 20g?  :smile:


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: meowshroom]
    #21820773 - 06/17/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the only reason I started misting kinda heavier today is because I saw what I thought was bruising from being dry, and the cakes drying out fast.  I know I misted too heavy because they are still wet, and its 5 hours later.

I just have to take a deep breath, and relax, and let the cakes do their thing.

also, anyone know what kind of grains RR uses in his grain spawn in his grain prep videos?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21821081 - 06/17/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

RR uses rye. A very forgiving grain, nearly as easy to prep as oats.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21821142 - 06/17/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks. im going to try monotubs next for sure, set and forget sounds like me, the cakes are difficult for me because I cannot seem to get the watering right.

ill post updates tomorrow on the condition of the cakes, if they get bluer, or whatever happens.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21824307 - 06/18/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the rye he used is ryegrass seed right? or am I confusing myself again? im trying to buy some but I cannot seem to find it at the regular stores and am going to find a feed store, I got the coir, cant seem to find the gypsum though, any suggestions on where to find that?

also I was going to water these cakes, since i misted once today its about time for my second, but i think these look a little moist still, what do you think? should i give em the 2nd mist in a little while, or later tonight at midnight, or wait till tomorrow(you can see the blueing getting more apparent on a couple of the cakes...)


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21824411 - 06/18/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Rye grass seed and rye berries are different.  The first video he is using berrys.  I think he goes on to explain how to do grass later.  I found rye hard to find, and just did wbs.  Haven't tried oats yet, but I think I will soon.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Climbhigher]
    #21825465 - 06/18/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

what kind of WBS should I look for, also, what additives are bad for using it as spawn, so far ive seen people say cracked corn is a no-no.

im going to go with rye berries, off amazon.  just wondering how much I should get, from what I read it takes 6-7 jars of spawn per monotub? that sound right?  sounds like a little much, they might be talking about the pint jars not sure though.

these berries ok? they say they have the hull removed. http://www.amazon.com/Rye-Berries-25-Lb-Bag/dp/B000RHVIQG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1434681888&sr=8-3&keywords=rye+berries


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21825900 - 06/18/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hi, so a while ago I decided I was going for it and have been decently satisfied with the progress so far, but there are a few concerns. Somewhere around the beginning of June, I sterilized 12 1/2pints with a pressure cooker and left them in there to stay sterile while I waited for a more sterile day to inoculate, I ended up waiting about 4 more days (a lot of trees in my yard were spawning).

So finally, I got around to inoculating (PC B+) and these jars have been doing their thing ever since. The needle was actually clogged right after the first hole was inoculated and I didn't realize until the last jar.. I felt so dumb when I found out. I see now that spores were only able to make it into a few holes. They seem to be really healthy and clean, but I feel that they're growing rather slow. The temp is lower than normal, 70-72F, but I'm under the impression that it doesn't have to be as warm as it's usually recommended; the jars seem pretty wet, but aren't puddling; and also, the first two jars seem very stringy, while the third is very solid.

Just wanted to share and see what some other people had to say!I feel like I had a lot I wanted to share and ended up forgetting a lot of the detail when I actually wrote, I'll edit if I think of more info to add!
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Tonyper]
    #21826013 - 06/18/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

all I can say, is that spores are small, so a clog wouldn't really matter I guess if liquid was still getting through.  As long as it wasn't completely clogged I wouldn't worry.

there are a lot of factors that can effect growth, one of them, being temp, I would try and put them in a place at leave 4 - 7 degrees warmer.

also, I had a couple jars that were pretty slow in my first batch(2 to be exact, 1 in my new batch) and that can be caused by multiple factors.  I think the main one in the strain. another can be the moisture content of the jar, some could have leaked in, you never know.

just looked at your pics, they look fine you have nothing to worry about, like I said, sometimes, the myc just colonize slow, i would assume the main factor slowing them up would be the temp, that's just me though.  they look good man, just don't handle them often, as i was told it can lead to contams dislodging from the dry verm barrier and making their way down, don't know how true it is though, but its best not to mess with them.(i used to do it every day lol). they don't,look to be contaminated from those pics so i think youll be fine, it takes time.

I would start your own thread and see what other people say, maybe try starting a grow log, definitely will get more exposure and good info. people on here are here to help others, they were newbies once as well. make it in this forum, the "mushroom cultivation" just be sure not to mention your spore syringe source.

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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21826124 - 06/18/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, I feel like they would have made it through but it seems like it's not the case. I've read a bunch but execution is always different! Thank you tons for such a thorough response, man. I'll definitely make my own thread in the morning. I didn't realize I was posting in yours lol also, I definitely won't mention my source, I was 90% sure that it's inappropriate to, but thanks for the confirmation


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Tonyper]
    #21826155 - 06/18/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

btw, i read that placing them ontop of a computer can raise the temp to the desired level depending how cold it is, it might be old info i would double check but that's an option.

No problem, if nobody answered my questions id be fucked, just look at the rest of the thread lol.

send me a link of you log when you make it btw.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21826163 - 06/18/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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what kind of WBS should I look for, also, what additives are bad for using it as spawn, so far ive seen people say cracked corn is a no-no.

im going to go with rye berries, off amazon.  just wondering how much I should get, from what I read it takes 6-7 jars of spawn per monotub? that sound right?  sounds like a little much, they might be talking about the pint jars not sure though.

these berries ok? they say they have the hull removed. http://www.amazon.com/Rye-Berries-25-Lb-Bag/dp/B000RHVIQG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1434681888&sr=8-3&keywords=rye+berries




I use wbs with corn in it, no problems so far.  Guys say to avoid sunflower seeds, corn and peanuts.  The only one I ever had problems with was the peanuts, and that was only because it made everything sticky.  Just buy what's cheap and pc it good, you'll be fine.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Climbhigher]
    #21826173 - 06/18/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

gotcha.  Ill probably go with rye if i can get it shipped for a decent price, if not ive found WBS literally EVERYWHERE.

Im also checking out agar recipies because im going to try and dive into that for the first time, should be fun!

if you can man, check back tomorrow for an update on the cakes, i need all the help i can get. thanks


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21826240 - 06/19/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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gotcha.  Ill probably go with rye if i can get it shipped for a decent price, if not ive found WBS literally EVERYWHERE.

Im also checking out agar recipies because im going to try and dive into that for the first time, should be fun!

if you can man, check back tomorrow for an update on the cakes, i need all the help i can get. thanks




I love agar man.  I've gone so overboard with it, but it makes life so much easier.  I have a link for all kinds of different agar recipes, I'll post it here for you.  I like PDA for most things, cheap and easy.

Here's the link,
http://www.uamh.devonian.ualberta.ca/~/media/uamh/OrderCultures/Documents/Media.pdf


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Climbhigher]
    #21827545 - 06/19/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

thanks bro, that's actually the one I was going to try and do, least amount of ingredients.  anhy recommendations of the type of LME? or brand? Also, the recipie im following only uses 9g of agar, so I don't think thatll be enough for 10 plates.  I was going to scale it up but the water for the current ratio is 500g for 9g powder, im thinking itll be way too much water when I scale up, so what ratios do you use and for how many dishes?

Day 4 since pins first appeared:

Back to my bab-I mean mushies!
As far as cakes go, the bluing is getting more pronounced, as you can see on a couple pictures, only on the tops of the cakes and a little down on the sides, but it is mainly isolated on the tops.

As usual, please let me know if they look wet/dry to you,(important to me, please tell) but the main reason im posting these is to show the increase in growth, as well as the NEW PINSS, which are popping up EVERY. FREAKING. WHERE. let me know what you guys think! thanks.
The pins/baby mushies seem to be doubling in size every day, and more are popping up like I said.




So, if some mushies reach maturity before the rest I harvest those mushrooms and leave the rest until their maturity is reached.  after the majority are harvested, I re-dunk the cakes for 12-18 hours(what do you guys recommend?) and then stick them straight back in the SGFC, skipping the roll in verm as it ill just most likely cause contams.  Sound correct? anything im missing regarding the next flush?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21830325 - 06/19/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hey, I got a question, if the mushies keep growing and hit the lid of the chamber, what should I do?  The only thing I could think of would be to remove some perlite but that would sacrifice rH.  Ideas?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21830794 - 06/20/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Harvest shortly after the veil has torn.  You can let them flatten out, however, aesthetically, I prefer them looking a bit like a dick, and compressed, than fragile and flat.  Lots of opinions here.

Pick when you can.  You've done everything right.  Just play it by ear.  You might be very able to gently separate the stems from substrate without damage.  Your myc has grown so outrageously strong that after a dunk, I can't see how it *couldn't* recover.

Get a low powered fan from wally world...  dry fruits for 24 hrs under direct airflow of that, then transfer to airtight bowl with damprid.  A stainless steel screen is what you want.

You're going to have great results - you just needed to dial it in.  I hope I helped along the way.

After you feel you have taken most of the "first" fruits off a cake, dunk it for 12 hrs.  Submerge fully.  Then just rinse and repeat.  You'll get 3 flushes, then go bury the cake somewhere it might live! :smile:

When you dunk, don't worry about small "duds."  They could turn into monsters when you put them back in the FC.

Enjoy, excellent work, and don't be afraid to leave the lid off an hour or so when they are getting large - they will get even larger.  Experiment.  I bet you could write a book now huh?  :smile:


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: meowshroom]
    #21830854 - 06/20/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

and just pick em if they reach the top...  unless they require early harvest... in which case you might need to dig a little trench for the cakes, or ideally, get a new FC.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: meowshroom]
    #21831479 - 06/20/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

if Its difficult to separate from the cake should I just cut with scissors?

also, I think ill try digging  little bit down and moving the cakes down, so they can grow bigger if need be. im using the 66qt sterilite from Wal-Mart, which now I realize is too big for 6 cakes, I have another SGFC I made which is smaller, but oh well. 

you did help, everyone who contributed at some point helped and I really do appreciate it!

btw, I LOVE that pic of the mushie is your sig, our little guys are all grow up :crying: :vibin:


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