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mycomaniac1402
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Id just let things happen , if you go a full ten to fourteen days with no pins then start to worry about what could be going wrong. But six days after birthing , try to keep things consistent..
And what was stated above, definitely give misting a rest for a day or two. Then proceed and mist half as much. It really doesn't take alot unless your cakes/casings are really drying out .
Good luck and hopefully youll see something in the next 5 days or so
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21799965 - 06/12/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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now I see why you have TC next to your name pasty.
Thanks for the advice everyone else.
When I picked up the cakes to mix the perlite up and fix the blocked holes, I thought to myself, "wow these cakes are really heavy" . so you are right pasty, they are too wet, they are definitely water logged. as I was looking up BRF pinning problems I came across RRs comments about how waterlogged cakes can delay pinning. I thought I was waiting long enough to mist again, but I guess not. I am definitely going to give the misting a rest for a day maybe two depending on how dry they get.
then I will mist maybe 2 times a day depending on how much the water evaps.
I Will post pics tomorrow, thanks again guys, and I hope we diagnosed the problem(what was REALLY wrong)
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Obamapm
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Just wondring how long you used to wait before misting your cakes ? "About to birth my cakes and want to avoid mistakes"
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Obamapm]
#21801400 - 06/13/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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im assuming you are talking to me,
I waited 4 hours after rolling and placing them in the FC before the first initial misting and fanning. RR says in the video to mist repeatedly after 30 minutes when first placed in the chamber but ive had multiple people tell me to wait a little while like 4-6 hours and then mist for the first time. The logic behind that was that they were just dunked for a long time, so they need to dry out a little bit before getting more water. Since further research, the 24hr dunk session replenishes water, but apparently not that much, so that's why they need more at first. Next round of cakes I have, which are already started and some are really growing fast, I will follow the fruiting part of the video to the T
then for the first couple days I misted about 4-5 times, which was way too much.
then for the past 4 or 5 days ive been misting 3 times a day, and even that is too much, I guess im just watering too much each time, ill have to use less water.
Also, has anyone downloaded the video Lets Grow Mushrooms to their PC? Im just wondering if you get the full-length video from downloading it, because its only $8 and the DVD set is $45, im thinking some of the video is left out, am I wrong?
IF you do get the full length of it I am definitely going to download it, loads of good info that seem to be up-to-date.
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Climbhigher
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firstTIMER420 said: im assuming you are talking to me,
I waited 4 hours after rolling and placing them in the FC before the first initial misting and fanning. RR says in the video to mist repeatedly after 30 minutes when first placed in the chamber but ive had multiple people tell me to wait a little while like 4-6 hours and then mist for the first time. The logic behind that was that they were just dunked for a long time, so they need to dry out a little bit before getting more water. Since further research, the 24hr dunk session replenishes water, but apparently not that much, so that's why they need more at first. Next round of cakes I have, which are already started and some are really growing fast, I will follow the fruiting part of the video to the T
then for the first couple days I misted about 4-5 times, which was way too much.
then for the past 4 or 5 days ive been misting 3 times a day, and even that is too much, I guess im just watering too much each time, ill have to use less water.
Also, has anyone downloaded the video Lets Grow Mushrooms to their PC? Im just wondering if you get the full-length video from downloading it, because its only $8 and the DVD set is $45, im thinking some of the video is left out, am I wrong?
IF you do get the full length of it I am definitely going to download it, loads of good info that seem to be up-to-date.
Ya it's all there. Broken up into 12 videos or something. I like them because I can watch them on my tablet.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Climbhigher]
#21802933 - 06/13/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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cool, I will definitely be downloading that today, to say those videos are useful is an understatement(for me).
Here are some pics from earlier today, I think I may have some contams, I cannot see any green or any other colors, but I know trich isn't green in the beginning, its white. The first two are of the same cake, and it has little things coming off it, only on this side at this point, two of the other cakes have them but not a lot. 
Also ones I think may have a contam, this one look towards the top edge of the cake 
The rest are through the SGFE, didn't wanna take the lid off again, wanted to let the humidity build up again: 
The growth pattern on these cakes is just so...bizarre to me. Sorry for so many pics, just wanted to be able to give a good overall view of the cakes so you all can formulate an idea of whats going on.
I haven't watered all day and will not until tomorrow in the morning, and only will water 2 times, making sure the last watering session has dried out, since I added the perlite, the cakes take a long time to get rid of the water, but I thought I was supposed to keep them glistening wet on the top, guess I was doing it too much, anyways, let me know what yall think.
thanks
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Mad Season
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Keep them damp. Glistening is usually seen with a bright light. It's tomentose growth and it's still good. It'll still find places to pop those pins out . They look well hydrated right now. Maybe even a tich dry. You should probably think about a light misting before you go to bed tonight.
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21803212 - 06/13/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I gotcha man, thanks for the info.
you don't see any contams?
and also, what do you think about the first two pics? what do those things look like, towards the left side of the cake. they are raised, they look really weird.
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Mad Season
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21803260 - 06/13/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: It's tomentose growth and it's still good. It'll still find places to pop those pins out 
I don't see any contams
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21803924 - 06/13/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I gave em a light mist, I always tend to overwater, even though I haven't watered them all day, they still aren't that dry, like I said they were waterlogged.
what think I should do, like the other dude said and half water for the next few days?
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Mad Season
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You shouldn't really need to mist heavily. Just do a light mist from now on. My motto is its better to mist too little and need to mist 3 hours later over misting too much and waiting 2 days, as you've found out :P
Just mist when they're dry looking and not moist. Keep them moist not wet
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21803963 - 06/13/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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apparently my half-misting is everyone elses overmisting lol
I gotcha, im gonna take a picture after I mist em when I think they are sufficiently misted and see what you everyone thinks so they can tell me if its over/underwatered.
Edit: here are the pics as of this morning, I was thinking of giving a light mist again today, but I picked one up and they are still heavy, feel logged to me. let me know what yall think 
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firstTIMER420
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6/15/2015 ok here it is this morning, this is before misting 
This is after, my opinion is that I could of misted a little bit more because they are almost completely dry from the last one and its only been 2 hours, I figured id rather under mist than over mist. what you guy think?
Heres the after:
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Mad Season
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I think it looks perfectly hydrated and you should keep them like that. It sounds perfect what you're doing now.
Also I'm shocked you're not going nuts. Look at your 2nd last photo closely
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You have your first pin. Very exciting time man
In the next couple days you'll see lots of pins because I can see at least 2 in the 4th pic and 2-3 coming up in the 3rd pic
Edited by Mad Season (06/15/15 09:49 AM)
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21810005 - 06/15/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OH. MAI. GAWD. 6/15/2015--first pins, ever
just looked at them, I see a couple pins on each cakes, and was wondering why so few, but like you said there will be more tomorrow so that's good.
Also, when the majority of the mushies are ready to harvest, should I harvest all of them? even if there is fresh pins or ones not that mature yet?
If yes, then I re-dunk the cake for 8-12 hours right? but then DO NOT roll again.
If no, then do I let them grow out before re-dunking the cake again?
Can you dunk a cake if there are pins on it?
to end, im going to must 1 more time today, as I said before they were pretty water logged and I think they have all the extra water they need. I will post a couple more pics later today when I mist again to again see what yall think, after that if I mist correctly and get that confirmed, I think ill be able to stop posting pics every 5 seconds and start becoming more independent(not too independent though!)
Thank you for all the help guys so far, id be lost/worried without all of you!
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420] 1
#21810051 - 06/15/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I harvest as they go, each mushroom that's ready and leave pins to keep growing. You'll probably be picking mushrooms every day. I usually dunk when all of them are harvested. Sometimes 2nd flush is coming up right when you pick your last mushroom and you can still dunk for 8-12 (no roll). Won't kill pins.
As for why there's so few.. it always starts with 1 or 2 man :P
Grats on the pins man! You're almost in the clear
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21810107 - 06/15/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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and how do you harvest them, ive always just pulled them out when out in the wild, but I don't wanna damage the cake too bad. Ive seen people saying to twist and pull, others cut theirs with scissors, whats your take?
thank you man, I was really skeptical and thinking I fucked everything up, but its nice to see some reward for the work ive been doing.
Im getting ahead of myself, but after my next round of cakes(mexi-cub, had golden teachers going but they got full of water when I steamed them I forgot tin foil over the jars!!DOH!) im going to start and try a monotub or maybe agar and use that to innoc the WBS jars(that's how it works right? colonize on petri dish and then cut sections till you get dish 0 contams and then cut sections and innoc?)
Im just nervous about misting and hope I keep getting it right. I wouldn't have been able to get this far without the help of shroomerites alike!
Based on the pics post-mist, how long do you think I should wait to mist again, I was thinking about 5pm
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firstTIMER420
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firstTIMER420 said: and how do you harvest them, ive always just pulled them out when out in the wild, but I don't wanna damage the cake too bad. Ive seen people saying to twist and pull, others cut theirs with scissors, whats your take?
thank you man, I was really skeptical and thinking I fucked everything up, but its nice to see some reward for the work ive been doing.
Im getting ahead of myself, but after my next round of cakes(mexi-cub, had golden teachers going but they got full of water when I steamed them I forgot tin foil over the jars!!DOH!) im going to start and try a monotub or maybe agar and use that to innoc the WBS jars(that's how it works right? colonize on petri dish and then cut sections till you get dish 0 contams and then cut sections and innoc?)
Im just nervous about misting and hope I keep getting it right. I wouldn't have been able to get this far without the help of shroomerites alike!
Based on the pics post-mist, how long do you think I should wait to mist again, I was thinking about 5pm
ok, well I misted these at about 5pm today and its 9 and they are still damp, I can see the verm on top is still damp even though most of the water beads on the tops are gone, so I think I will give a very very ligt mist around 1am before I go to bed and then nothing till tomorrow morning at around 8

these are the last pics im posting for at least a day, as I want to see if I can do it right for a day by myself(you can laugh its alright I wont cry ), so, like before, let me know what you think if these are hydrated enough and ill take it from there.
I know you aren't supposed to let them get dry every time but for right now, I think it would help with all the extra water still in the cakes, maybe for a day or two. After tomorrow probably I will try to keep them moist, not wet(BIG difference as I have found out!) thanks
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these are the last pics im posting for at least a day, as I want to see if I can do it right for a day by myself(you can laugh its alright I wont cry
It's all good yo
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: ShroominMe]
#21814108 - 06/16/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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was told to post these, but these are the only pics im gona post today and tomorrow as well till the fruits grow a little more, missing 1 more pic and will add in a few minutes. the middle pic is one of the biggest cluster of fruits on any of the cakes, theres like 6 in that one. Also, I thought there would be more pins by now but only a few are popping up, hopefully the misting im doing isn't causing them to stop pinning, that might sound stupid/over worried though. 
what yall think, too wet?
And how are the pins looking so far, I know they are small but you can still kinda see them.
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