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meowshroom
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: lessismore]
#21780274 - 06/08/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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with 100% humidity, 4 days has been the max till pins, multiple times. Somewhat poor FAE, but no choice there. Lots of misting and fanning.
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lessismore
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: meowshroom]
#21780394 - 06/08/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: with 100% humidity, 4 days has been the max till pins, multiple times. Somewhat poor FAE, but no choice there. Lots of misting and fanning.
I believe that depends much on the strain of the mushroom you're trying to grow.
Some strains won't even pin at all - not all produce fruits.
Some are late pinners
With a good MS syringe of decent quality - like most vendors sell, the pinning is quick
But once you start making your own syringes it can be much slower in my experience, I've tried 2 weeks before I think but not everything has been optimal all the time
I wouldn't expect serious amount of pinning before around 1 week, and likely 1.5 weeks just keep fanning and being like a little child waiting for christmas ;-)
(a SGFC seems to pin quicker than a monotub for me it seems, maybe due to heavier airflow and artifical light - monotubs only get indirect sunlight few hours a day i.e.) so pinning can vary a lot.. , if nothing happens by 2 weeks you can expect something has gone wrong likely
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: lessismore]
#21780430 - 06/08/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow. There is so much bad info being spewed all over the last page of this thread that I don't even know what to tell the OP other than to just keep the steady course of misting when the moisture from the last mist is gone, only fanning after you mist, and update with pics. Ignore most everything else people have told you in the last 7 posts. Its pretty much all garbage.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21780632 - 06/08/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If it dries up that fast add an inch or 2 of perlite, keep it wet. Should be 5-6 inches. Maybe getting it elevated higher than the 1/2 pints. Use quart jars or something. It should be 6 inches or more above the ground. Use a milk crate or something. It just needs to get elevated more.
Also you probably don't even have to fan after misting. I know I don't. I just mist when needed and let it be. It evaporates fast due to the lower rh anyways. Other than that just keep doing what you're doing.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21780696 - 06/08/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks for the info mad and pasty, and also everyone else thank you for trying to help, I appreciate it. 
it seems since ive started misting till they are glistening on the top that it will last 5-7 hours before I have to mist again, sometimes 8 hours but that was only once. Like I said before, im going to trust in the methods ive chosen to use, and ive read enough on this site to have some red flags pop up when I am told certain things, although I still have a lot more to learn.
When I raised it up, I ended up having to put a jar in the middle of the bottom because it started to bend from all the weight of the wet perlite, its blocking about 2 and a half holes, good or bad?
The reason I started worrying is because on RR's vids he already had pins and mushies were halfway grown in 4 days, but I have to remind myself, he actually knows what he is doing!
By the way, I don't think I added this but I am growing B+, seemed like the most logical choice for a first time grower, from what ive read they are hardy and pretty easy to grow.
By the way im embarrassed to say this but I wasted a WHOLE PC GOLDEN TEACHER syringe the other day! forgot to put foil over when I steamed, and the inside was SOAKED in water when I took the jars out, although I didn't notice until AFTER I innocd them and let them sit for 3 days, started noticing black shit inside and I tossed them immediately:( so that sucks bigtime, but I gaurentee I WILL NOT forget proper procedure again
I also started 6 PC Mexi-Cub jars that will hopefully be finished colonizing after the last flush from my current B+ project.
Tomorrow I am going to be adding more perlite, as I am only at 4 1/2" in my SGFC, I also rotated it so it has at least 12" of room on all sides and it pretty close to the middle of the room. What can I say, im learning as I grow. Also, I cannot elevate them any more as I have nothing else that I can think of to do it with, no milk crates here!
also switched to a 14W 6500k CFL today, the one I was using was only 14W 5000K.
Im seriously considering getting an analog hygrometer, but have had multiple people tell me its a waste of money...so still debating it unfortunately, as I am one of those people who needs to be certain of EVERYTHING im doing... and it sucks..
I will post pics tomorrow to get your feedback, again, thanks for the input yall!
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firstTIMER420
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ok so here is some pics and I have a question, I read on how it should and shouldn't look that if a cake is taking too long to pin, wax paper can be applied around it(in the shape of a jar) and only lifted off to mist, whats yalls take on that?
also, the cakes seem to be growing mycelium out, like towards the air, it just looks weird to me.
 (pics are from earlier today I have since trimmed the foil and added more perlite)
I added an inch of perlite today and im now at 5 1/2", so I figure the rH should be a little closer to optimal, but to add the perlite I had to take the cakes out 1 by one, and it looks like the cakes are starting to attach to the tin foil, so I hope I didn't damage them too much, also, I hope they don't contam from being outside the SGFC.
Do you guys think it will affect the cakes a lot by handling them as well as being outside?
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Pastywhyte
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I dislike pseudo casings and the myc is just colonizing the verm a bit. Might be due to a short consolidation but is nothing to worry about.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21792315 - 06/11/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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day 4, still no pins, no knots, starting to get worried. ive read that if no pins in a week or two then to re-dunk the cake, but not re roll, is that correct? the cake is still growing, but not having any knots or pins.
also, since I added the perlite, its more than halfway up the SGFC.
I know it depends on hw big the SGFC is, but how close to the top should the cakes be? im thinking of adding more perlite
also, there is a jar in the center of the bottom, as it was bending pretty bad from all the weight so I propped a jar in there to support, wondering if that will mess up the air flow.

also, the light is optimal(6500k, 14W) im wondering if I should move it closer.
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Pastywhyte
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Everything looks good. I would stop worrying. 4 days is nothing in this hobby. What you should do is start some more cakes to take your mind off it.
I have had APE take a month to pin. Again how long you consolidated is the biggest factor in how long it might take to pin.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21794846 - 06/11/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I gotcha, I consolidated them for a full week, but they only took like 2 1/2 weeks to get to the 1st consol day. faster then I thought it was going to take.
I started 6 Mexi-cub BRF jars about 6 days ago, and saw growth 2 days ago in those, I think 1 might have contams, but it might just be the verm/BRF pushed up against the glass making it look weird, imma post a pic tomorrow.
I understand, Just thought they would pin faster than this, guess they gotta grow up a little bit more before they are ready to
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Pastywhyte
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Well a week is the bare minimum. With a fast colonization I would do two.weeks myself.
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21795116 - 06/11/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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makes sense, now I guess this time ill let them consolidate for a week and a half to two weeks this time, I took them out at a week because 1 that's what the tek said and 2 there was a lot of moisture buildup in the jar and I was afraid it would contam, am I wrong for thinking that?
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Pastywhyte
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Condensation doesn't cause contams. Contams cause contams. Excessive moisture can make colonization difficult for the myc and give things like bacteria an edge, but is not the vector for the contam.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21795494 - 06/11/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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ahh, I see. Thank you for clarifying.
The cakes are really growing fast, Some are almost reaching 1" into the air on some parts of the cake, No pins yet though.
What do you think about adding a second light? I have a couple more bulbs left and was wondering if that would help growing/pinning.
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Pastywhyte
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Light is good for development but IMO won't do jack for pinning. Really 5 days is nothing. Grow yerself some penis where it takes 3 weeks for pins and then you will know what it means to wait.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21798283 - 06/12/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some of the pics from today, like I mentioned earlier, it seems like the mycelium are reaching outwards, trying to get away...
As per usual the cake is also starting to colonize the tin foil, which is normal I guess. (will be adding 2 more pics later)

The only other thing im kinda finding weird is that the cakes are growing in certain spots and not in others, hmmm.
My humidity is finally at an optimal level because I added another inch of perlite.
thoughts?
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Someone is about to tell you that you don't have enough fae...
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Climbhigher]
#21799222 - 06/12/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Climbhigher said: Someone is about to tell you that you don't have enough fae...
Doesn't look like aerial myc. Doesn't look like FAE issues. Looks like something else. I would rake up the perlite and use a pen to ensure the bottom holes are not plugged. That should guarantee good FAE. But I also suggest the OP stops misting for a day. Looks wet. Take a pic of it tomorrow.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21799737 - 06/12/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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Climbhigher said: Someone is about to tell you that you don't have enough fae...
Doesn't look like aerial myc. Doesn't look like FAE issues. Looks like something else. I would rake up the perlite and use a pen to ensure the bottom holes are not plugged. That should guarantee good FAE. But I also suggest the OP stops misting for a day. Looks wet. Take a pic of it tomorrow.
It's super interesting looking. Any idea what it is?
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21799811 - 06/12/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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gotcha, I mixed around the perlite and put a pen thru the holes from the bottom up to make sure they weren't blocked, I still had 1 watering/misting session left today and im going to skip it and take pics around 5 tomorrow, and will take it from there.
Hopefully this turns around, I want some damn fruits! I thought I was doing everything right but I guess not unfortunately.
thanks for the advice
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