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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21707949 - 05/21/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Lookin' good :rockon:


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21708109 - 05/21/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

by the way dude, I used 1/2 inch drill bit for my SGFC holes, which is what the guide I followed said to use but im seeing 1/4 all over the place on here, should I make a new one?


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21708124 - 05/21/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You could always try it out and see how it works. But with 1/2" holes I'm thinking it might let too much air exchange and not maintain proper humidity. But it's always worth a shot and see how it works. If it doesn't work then you have successful learned how NOT to make a sgfc.

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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Zephen]
    #21709809 - 05/22/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yup, I re checked the drill bit size, and I did it correctly, idk why I had a 1/2" bit in my head though, guess im just psyching myself out.  by the way, if the cakes start pinning in the jars, is that an indicator of when they should be taken out? or does that mean I waited too long to birth them.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21709827 - 05/22/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Some people wait that long. They're just extra consolidated! Go ahead and birth them now.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Zephen]
    #21709852 - 05/22/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

they haven't gotten that far I was just wondering lol, I wish!.


if it only takes like 2 weeks to reach full colonization before the consolidation period, so a total of three weeks, can I still birth it? from my understanding you sh0uld leave them In the jar for about 3 weeks then 1 week consol so about a month in total.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21710048 - 05/22/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It just depends how fast your jars colonize. If they fully colonize in 2 weeks, wait 1 week to consolidate, and then birth them. If they're ready then they are ready.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Zephen]
    #21711129 - 05/22/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Pins before full colonization usually means there is a contam and the mushrooms are trying to grow and reproduce while they still can.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: wowimflabbergasted] * 1
    #21711464 - 05/22/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Great job!!! You didn't deviate from the tek at all, that's rare...everything looks good...keep it up and ask all the questions you want. Good vibes your way!!


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: LocN9ne]
    #21711490 - 05/22/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm thinking you should get another fc and use 1/4" holes. Sgfcs are actually already pretty damn good at fae and can dry up a lot which is why you have to mist a lot. Normally we see contaminations. Everyone does even the best of the best. Sometimes it's not bad enough to toss cause of a killer pinset. I'd just keep the 1/2" hole fc around for the contaminated/suspected for isolation and tape up some of the holes if the isolated ones are getting too dry


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21712287 - 05/22/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm thinking you should get another fc and use 1/4" holes. Sgfcs are actually already pretty damn good at fae and can dry up a lot which is why you have to mist a lot. Normally we see contaminations. Everyone does even the best of the best. Sometimes it's not bad enough to toss cause of a killer pinset. I'd just keep the 1/2" hole fc around for the contaminated/suspected for isolation and tape up some of the holes if the isolated ones are getting too dry





I have 2 questions:
if the jars do start pinning early because of a contam, should I throw em out or put em in the chamber and let them do their thing?

also,i was reading that even if the cakes have a contam, they can grow over it and still reproduce.  If I do have a cake that gets contams in the SGFC, should I toss it or take a chance? im guessing it depends on how bad it is.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21712300 - 05/22/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

1- hard to say. If the contamination spreads easily I'd just toss it. If it isn't aggressive and the mycelium has truly stalled I'd wash it off and fruit in isolation.

I'd always put previously contaminated cakes into isolation. Fruit in the contamination chamber :wink:


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21712389 - 05/22/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

mycelium stalls? like stops growing for a couple days?

and are there any certain contaminations rthat if you see you immediately wanna throw away doesn't matter of the circumstances?

and, if the cake does have contams and you end up fruiting, im kinda wondering if that would be safe to consume...


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    #21713549 - 05/23/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes. Except it stops for weeks not days. Also usually pins too when it is stalled.

Yes. Almost all contaminations should get tossed immediately. Cobweb and trich come to mind as good examples of things to be tossed immediately.

There's a few contaminations you shouldn't even touch let alone eat. The colours are pink/purple and black. As well as fruit body contaminations. Everything else is fine. In the wild all you eat are mushrooms from contaminated substrates


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21716800 - 05/24/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think a couple of the jars may be contaminated, for some reason it looks like there is condensation in the jars, like water on the sides in a couple spots, im hoping they aren't contamed and its just natural bi product, I will post pics later today.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21717243 - 05/24/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Hey all, I have been researching methods of growing mushies and after a lot of staying in the shadows I have decided to give it a whack.  I will be following the PF tek "lets grow mushrooms" video as my first reference and filled in the blanks with advice from many peoples opinions and experiences from what I have read.  The purpose of posting this is so I can get feedback from anyone who wants to give it as I need all the help I can get.  Any advice is appreciated, as I said it is my first time and if all goes well I think this could be a lifelong hobby, and its just fun anyways!  Here it goes:

Day 1:
I have put together the jars using brown rice flour, vermiculite, and water, I believe it was a 1:2:1 ratio respectively. I was careful not to pack it down, I only kinda took some away from the edges so I could wipe away with a fresh paper towel to get any moisture off the edges and top of jar.  Then, I added a layer of dry verm, about 1/2", the end result was a mixture almost to the top of the jar. All this with clean hands.

-Wrapped the jars in tin foil as tight as I could and boiled the 6 jars(4 holes in each jar I think 5/62" or something like that, really small, barely fit the needle in.) for about 80-90 minutes.  The pot ALMOST boiled dry once but I was quick to add water and the pot never stopped steaming.  I elevated the jars with 2 layers of lids and a layer of tin foil in between, the jars were maybe an inch away from the water, was careful not to put too much water.

-after done steaming, took em out and let them cool off for about 4 hours, then took a shower. put on a fresh longsleeve shirt. Then I set up my SAB.  I got a lighter, gloves, 70% iso alc, my 10CC syringe(B+) and a soapy water mixture, sprayed the box indirectly to get soapy water coated on the inside and flipped it over.  I washed my hands, put on the gloves, taped my sleeves over the ends of my gloves, then used the alcohol to clean the gloves. Wiped down the jars INSIDE the SAB with the ALC and then let dry for about 3 minutes.  I opened the syringe and attached the needle INSIDE the SAB.(I had the top part down, so I didn't use a lid, rather a towel slightly damp with the soap water, read this was a good method to use). Took the needle out of the SAB and flame sterilized it, then inoculated the first 3 jars..I FORGOT TO STERILIZE BETWEEN THE FIRST 3 BUT DID IT FOR THE LAST 3, so im crossing my fingers bigtime!

-Let everything sit for about 10 minutes then took the jars and placed them ontop of a dresser in my closet.

Im will let them sit for about 3 weeks, then after fully colonized, will wait another week, then birth and dunk and roll.

I am gonna post a pic of my Shotgun Terrarium as well as my SAB, let me know what yall think. 

END of day 1. Thanks for reading.




DAY 5:

Well, here it is yall, day 5 of colonization/project, and if I do say so myself these are coming along great!(well, maybe average :grin: )

Here are the pics of the 5 that have taken so far, the 6th im not posting because nothing is happening,(I used what was left in the syringe, less than .25CC)




Those were the 2 best pics, bear in mind the only camera I have is an ipad 2.







The last 3 pics are kinda blurry but you CAN see the white spots where the myc growth is starting.:thumbup:
almost all of them have growth where all 4 innoc holes are, so im taking that as a good sign, in about 5 days I will post some more to see if yall can see and contams I cant(hopefully none!)

let me know what yall think!
-thanks

END of day 5





so here it is, DAY 8

here are the jars, im gonna put the first two that I think may be contaminated, as I can see what looks like water drops/condensation in them, its not bad, and not throughout the whole jar.




And here are the rest


Let me know what yall think, I guess you kinda cant really see what im talking about as far as condensation/water drops in the first 4 pics, which are 2 of one and 2 of another jar. but from your experience, does that mean a bacterial contam?

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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21717889 - 05/24/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

since the pics didn't really show what I was talking about for the contams, I took better pics. this is the 1st jar, you can see it better.  what im talking about is on the right side inside the white part, looks like water drops/condensation, and that might be exactly what it is, but im not sure, let me know what yall think.\

by the way, I got my SGFC for contam cakes now:rockon:



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end of day 8.2

@MAD, im trying to browse and get ahold of some fruiting contam pics, so I can see what to look for, ive read that white fuzzys on fruting bodies means that not enough humidity or something I forget, but I thought it was worse than that, maybe there are different kinds.  Can anyone link a good page for JUST FRUITING CONTAMS?

any yup that makes sense, I guess a pile of shit would have a pretty good amount of contams in it..:badshroom:


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    #21717903 - 05/24/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It's fine buddy. Condensation is normal.


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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
    #21717916 - 05/24/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I was thinking it was ok, just wanted to make sure thought that's why I took some clearer pictures.  appreciate the help dude. im nervous about this if you couldn't tell.  by the way, I got 4 more spore syringes and im deciding what I should do with em, im thinking about trying agar and been watching some vids but it seems kinda difficult...


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    #21717936 - 05/24/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It's not. Easier than grains. My agar prep is really easy. 2 grams agar agar, 2 grams dry light malt extract (from a brewing supply store) for every 100 mL of water. For the malt extract, it's really sticky so I pour into a folded piece of paper and weigh it out, then pour it into the pot. I boil it all together and use pasty plates.


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