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firstTIMER420
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FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG
#21688590 - 05/16/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey all, I have been researching methods of growing mushies and after a lot of staying in the shadows I have decided to give it a whack. I will be following the PF tek "lets grow mushrooms" video as my first reference and filled in the blanks with advice from many peoples opinions and experiences from what I have read. The purpose of posting this is so I can get feedback from anyone who wants to give it as I need all the help I can get. Any advice is appreciated, as I said it is my first time and if all goes well I think this could be a lifelong hobby, and its just fun anyways! Here it goes:
Day 1: I have put together the jars using brown rice flour, vermiculite, and water, I believe it was a 1:2:1 ratio respectively. I was careful not to pack it down, I only kinda took some away from the edges so I could wipe away with a fresh paper towel to get any moisture off the edges and top of jar. Then, I added a layer of dry verm, about 1/2", the end result was a mixture almost to the top of the jar. All this with clean hands.
-Wrapped the jars in tin foil as tight as I could and boiled the 6 jars(4 holes in each jar I think 5/62" or something like that, really small, barely fit the needle in.) for about 80-90 minutes. The pot ALMOST boiled dry once but I was quick to add water and the pot never stopped steaming. I elevated the jars with 2 layers of lids and a layer of tin foil in between, the jars were maybe an inch away from the water, was careful not to put too much water.
-after done steaming, took em out and let them cool off for about 4 hours, then took a shower. put on a fresh longsleeve shirt. Then I set up my SAB. I got a lighter, gloves, 70% iso alc, my 10CC syringe(B+) and a soapy water mixture, sprayed the box indirectly to get soapy water coated on the inside and flipped it over. I washed my hands, put on the gloves, taped my sleeves over the ends of my gloves, then used the alcohol to clean the gloves. Wiped down the jars INSIDE the SAB with the ALC and then let dry for about 3 minutes. I opened the syringe and attached the needle INSIDE the SAB.(I had the top part down, so I didn't use a lid, rather a towel slightly damp with the soap water, read this was a good method to use). Took the needle out of the SAB and flame sterilized it, then inoculated the first 3 jars..I FORGOT TO STERILIZE BETWEEN THE FIRST 3 BUT DID IT FOR THE LAST 3, so im crossing my fingers bigtime!
-Let everything sit for about 10 minutes then took the jars and placed them ontop of a dresser in my closet.
Im will let them sit for about 3 weeks, then after fully colonized, will wait another week, then birth and dunk and roll.
I am gonna post a pic of my Shotgun Terrarium as well as my SAB, let me know what yall think.
END of day 1. Thanks for reading.
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420] 1
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firstTIMER420
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here is my shotgun ter., as well as the Jars and my SAB. Opinions?





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firstTIMER420
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anyone have thoughts on these? made correctly? jars look good for just being sterilized?
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Mad Season
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It's looking great i can tell you've been reading. Pf cakes seem to be more lenient than grains so I wouldn't sweat it. If they contam they contam lol.
Just keep up with the reading and you'll do great! So far it's ace
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21692423 - 05/17/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes, a lot and a lot of reading, been looking into agar and grain to grain transfer as well as monotubs, maybe will try when I have more experience, as I am still kinda confused of the processes, I guess more reading is required lol. by the way, should I take the tape off of the jars so they can breathe better? also, someone told me to flip the jars after like 70% innoc., is that correct?
thanks
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Mad Season
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Don't flip and if it's micropore tape it'll only make it more contam resistant. You don't need much for enough GE.
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firstTIMER420
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21692513 - 05/17/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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gotcha, sorry for the pm lol, just basically asked if you had any more advice on the contam period, as well as the birthing and dunk and roll. the perlite I got is miracle grow and it has nutrients on it, those will wash off from what ive seen people say, thoughts?
p.s.- my original mixture of verm and BRF was clumping quite a bit, should I add more water in the future to avoid this problem?
thanks
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420] 1
#21692524 - 05/17/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Usually if you don't see contams within 72 hours you're good to go. At least that's how an optimist looks :P.
Yeah just give the perlite a thorough rinsing and it'll be fine.
Once it's fully colonized give it a week of consolidation and fill a bowl with water and put it in it for 24 hours.
Just lay out a small pile of verm and roll them in it and place on a lid/foil in the sgfc. Mist them directly until they're glistening wet and fan after every misting. Keep them glistening 24/7 with regular misting. Pretty much that straightforward.
Edited by Mad Season (05/17/15 09:53 PM)
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21692549 - 05/17/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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cool cool. Im gonna post pictures after about 4 days to see if anyone can spot contams that I cant, as you know, this is my first time and I don't really know what to look for besides black shit and green shit lol. Im only gonna touch them once a week to examine for contams, but like you suggested I will look after about 4 days and see. how many times you usually mist per day? fingers crossed 
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Mad Season
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Truth be told I've never done a sgfc or pftek. Thought bird seed was a good replacement and figured out it was for manure and I've just always done it since haha. I've read the pf tek and sgfc a lot and it seems most need to mist minimum twice a day. 3 times a day is normal
Edited by Mad Season (05/17/15 10:05 PM)
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21692658 - 05/17/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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any chance you could send me a good easy to follow bird seed tek? depending on the yield of this(hoping at least 10G dry, would like to trip and have some for another or two) im probably going to be looking to do another tek that raises the yield bigtime. Thanks for the input, and I will be posting pics in a few days of the jars so, like I said, I can get feedback and input, hopefully there wont be any contams!
thanks
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: Mad Season]
#21696668 - 05/18/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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hello all, about how long is the average time till you can see some colonization in the jars? the syringe I had had a HUUUGE black spot in the middle, so I know it was FULL of spores. just wondering. Its been 4 days and I cant really see a difference, don't really know what to look for tbh but I know its supposed to be white lol.
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Don't worry boss. My jars are on day 4 and I still don't have visible signs of mycelium yet. Just gotta give it time.
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firstTIMER420 said: hello all, about how long is the average time till you can see some colonization in the jars? the syringe I had had a HUUUGE black spot in the middle, so I know it was FULL of spores. just wondering. Its been 4 days and I cant really see a difference, don't really know what to look for tbh but I know its supposed to be white lol.
2-7 days
-------------------- “I slept and dreamt that life was joy. I awoke and saw that life was service. I acted and behold, service was joy.” "Love does not claim possession, but gives freedom" ― Rabindranath Tagore Stuff for New Growers Where new growers should start: RogerRabbit's PF Tek video How it Should and Shouldn't Look My Simplified Bulk Growing My OJ Shroom Tek
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: 2bittoker]
#21696918 - 05/19/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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gotcha man, if I don't see anything by 1 1/2 - 2 weeks imma consider it a bust, and I guess Ill have to start again
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: 2bittoker]
#21696920 - 05/19/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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2bittoker said:
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firstTIMER420 said: hello all, about how long is the average time till you can see some colonization in the jars? the syringe I had had a HUUUGE black spot in the middle, so I know it was FULL of spores. just wondering. Its been 4 days and I cant really see a difference, don't really know what to look for tbh but I know its supposed to be white lol.
2-7 days
It can take up to 2 weeks for germination.
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wowimflabbergasted said:
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2bittoker said:
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firstTIMER420 said: hello all, about how long is the average time till you can see some colonization in the jars? the syringe I had had a HUUUGE black spot in the middle, so I know it was FULL of spores. just wondering. Its been 4 days and I cant really see a difference, don't really know what to look for tbh but I know its supposed to be white lol.
2-7 days
It can take up to 2 weeks for germination.
so, if nothing by like 2 weeks ill DEFINETLY consider it a bust.. I imagine it wont though, I did everything 99.99% correct, fingers crossed I guess. I guess my next avenue Is to post pics after a week, and see what yall think.
thanks
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Re: FIRST GROW BRF/PF TEK GROW LOG [Re: firstTIMER420] 1
#21696949 - 05/19/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, 4 days is nothing.
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firstTIMER420
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firstTIMER420 said: Hey all, I have been researching methods of growing mushies and after a lot of staying in the shadows I have decided to give it a whack. I will be following the PF tek "lets grow mushrooms" video as my first reference and filled in the blanks with advice from many peoples opinions and experiences from what I have read. The purpose of posting this is so I can get feedback from anyone who wants to give it as I need all the help I can get. Any advice is appreciated, as I said it is my first time and if all goes well I think this could be a lifelong hobby, and its just fun anyways! Here it goes:
Day 1: I have put together the jars using brown rice flour, vermiculite, and water, I believe it was a 1:2:1 ratio respectively. I was careful not to pack it down, I only kinda took some away from the edges so I could wipe away with a fresh paper towel to get any moisture off the edges and top of jar. Then, I added a layer of dry verm, about 1/2", the end result was a mixture almost to the top of the jar. All this with clean hands.
-Wrapped the jars in tin foil as tight as I could and boiled the 6 jars(4 holes in each jar I think 5/62" or something like that, really small, barely fit the needle in.) for about 80-90 minutes. The pot ALMOST boiled dry once but I was quick to add water and the pot never stopped steaming. I elevated the jars with 2 layers of lids and a layer of tin foil in between, the jars were maybe an inch away from the water, was careful not to put too much water.
-after done steaming, took em out and let them cool off for about 4 hours, then took a shower. put on a fresh longsleeve shirt. Then I set up my SAB. I got a lighter, gloves, 70% iso alc, my 10CC syringe(B+) and a soapy water mixture, sprayed the box indirectly to get soapy water coated on the inside and flipped it over. I washed my hands, put on the gloves, taped my sleeves over the ends of my gloves, then used the alcohol to clean the gloves. Wiped down the jars INSIDE the SAB with the ALC and then let dry for about 3 minutes. I opened the syringe and attached the needle INSIDE the SAB.(I had the top part down, so I didn't use a lid, rather a towel slightly damp with the soap water, read this was a good method to use). Took the needle out of the SAB and flame sterilized it, then inoculated the first 3 jars..I FORGOT TO STERILIZE BETWEEN THE FIRST 3 BUT DID IT FOR THE LAST 3, so im crossing my fingers bigtime!
-Let everything sit for about 10 minutes then took the jars and placed them ontop of a dresser in my closet.
Im will let them sit for about 3 weeks, then after fully colonized, will wait another week, then birth and dunk and roll.
I am gonna post a pic of my Shotgun Terrarium as well as my SAB, let me know what yall think.
END of day 1. Thanks for reading.
DAY 5:
Well, here it is yall, day 5 of colonization/project, and if I do say so myself these are coming along great!(well, maybe average )
Here are the pics of the 5 that have taken so far, the 6th im not posting because nothing is happening,(I used what was left in the syringe, less than .25CC)


Those were the 2 best pics, bear in mind the only camera I have is an ipad 2.



The last 3 pics are kinda blurry but you CAN see the white spots where the myc growth is starting. almost all of them have growth where all 4 innoc holes are, so im taking that as a good sign, in about 5 days I will post some more to see if yall can see and contams I cant(hopefully none!)
let me know what yall think! -thanks
END of day 5
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