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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: tito123]
    #21690419 - 05/17/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah I don't plan on suing anyone. Would it be unwise for me to file a police complaint? This isn't a big city and I don't want to deal with police bullshit, but at the same time, this isn't right and should be addressed, at the least. A sheriff was with him so it was obviously supported by him too, which is ridiculous.





I'd wait until you have something worth complaining about.

Pissing off the cops with frivolous complaints in a small town is an unwise legal move.


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: jahrastafareye]
    #21690917 - 05/17/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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But he did have reasonable suspicion.  It's reasonable to assume a driver that makes a u-turn prior to a dui checkpoint has the intent of avoiding that checkpoint because they are drunk.  The bottom line is, you didn't get searched you didn't get a ticket and you weren't arrested.  The officer did exactly what he was supposed to do.  You're making a much bigger deal out of this than you should.




Yeah, you don't turn around lol


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #21691154 - 05/17/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I have heard that most drunk people get through DUI checkpoints just fine.  As long as you aren't slurring your words or freaking out, they generally wave the drunk people right on through.


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #21691185 - 05/17/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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But he did have reasonable suspicion.  It's reasonable to assume a driver that makes a u-turn prior to a dui checkpoint has the intent of avoiding that checkpoint because they are drunk.  The bottom line is, you didn't get searched you didn't get a ticket and you weren't arrested.  The officer did exactly what he was supposed to do.  You're making a much bigger deal out of this than you should.




Yeah, you don't turn around lol




I can't remember if I already quoted you or not and I don't feel like looking through this thread, but calling what I did suspicious is in the same vein as calling a car full of people with dreadlocks and the dyes suspicious. Sure, its probable that I wanted to avoid it because I was committing a crime(I wasn't) but there isn't enough suspicion to pull me over. And if you google it, its generally clear.

Maybe I'm just being an antagonizing asshole. Whatever.


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: tito123]
    #21691334 - 05/17/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I can't remember if I already quoted you or not and I don't feel like looking through this thread, but calling what I did suspicious is in the same vein as calling a car full of people with dreadlocks and the dyes suspicious. Sure, its probable that I wanted to avoid it because I was committing a crime(I wasn't) but there isn't enough suspicion to pull me over. And if you google it, its generally clear.

Maybe I'm just being an antagonizing asshole. Whatever.





It is not clear what the standard of evidence required to pull someone over is.

I have always heard that it is probable cause, but a google search said that the supreme court has not clarified this.

I know that anonymous tips are not enough to pull someone over.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=standard%20of%20evidence%20for%20being%20pulled%20over


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21691351 - 05/17/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Anonymous tips certainly can be enough to pull someone over...or for a search warrant, for that matter.  The anonymous tip does, however, have to provide some information that is verifiable and tends to show the credibility of the tipster and his/her position to know facts relevant to the probable cause.


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: Enlil]
    #21692153 - 05/17/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Anonymous tips certainly can be enough to pull someone over...or for a search warrant, for that matter. 





Looks like you are right!

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=anonymous+tip+court

I recall a case where someone called in a suspicious vehicle, thinking that the guy was growing marijuana.  The police came and stopped the car based on the tip, and found that he was growing marijuana.  He got off in court because the police lacked probable cause to stop him.  I am not sure where that case happened and I couldn't find it in a quick google search.


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #21710041 - 05/22/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Enlil said:
Anonymous tips certainly can be enough to pull someone over...or for a search warrant, for that matter. 





Looks like you are right!

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=anonymous+tip+court

I recall a case where someone called in a suspicious vehicle, thinking that the guy was growing marijuana.  The police came and stopped the car based on the tip, and found that he was growing marijuana.  He got off in court because the police lacked probable cause to stop him.  I am not sure where that case happened and I couldn't find it in a quick google search.





The line is, as Enlil suggested, that anonymous tips aren't ipso facto sufficient, however; they may be if they have specuific independantly verifiable facts that the cops can verify beforehand and which give the main allegation more reliability.


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: tito123]
    #21840126 - 06/22/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Granted, it looks suspicious, but in no way does it mean a cop can pull me over.




Reasonable suspicion is when you look reasonably suspicious, that seams pretty simple. You looked shady pulling into someone else's driveway to avoid a DUI checkpoint and based on that he made a traffic stop, didn't have probable cause to search so he let you go.

As other posters have stated, its not advised to start fights with local law enforcement. Why would you want to deal with them more than you had to?


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #21840144 - 06/22/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

oh man ... I Iold this one time passing thru DuI checkpoint. Im not drinking but my friends are. the officer said "have you been drinking tonight?".. and my passenger said "hell ya"..
cop shined light and we went along our merry way.


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: tito123]
    #21994827 - 07/25/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I thought that DUI checkpoints had to be located where people had the option to turn within so many feet.  that's how the scotus justified their legality.  in essence giving motorists the option to opt out


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Re: I was pulled over for turning around before a DUI checkpoint [Re: jahrastafareye]
    #21997639 - 07/25/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Do not rest until this dictator is held accountable for the atrocities he's committed.



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