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Chlorine Tap water or Bathtub water for Logs
    #21678159 - 05/14/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hi everyone,

i have heard that tap water will kill mycelium because of the chlorine.
i used rain water to soak the logs but i dont have pond or well water to sprinkle the logs during summer.

Also i saw some guys using tap water for liquid micelium cultures saying that there is no problem, but i think during boiling the chlorine reacted and went away.Does anybody know for sure if i can use it for sprinkling?

My second thought is to draw water in a bathtub, let it stand for a day and then sprinkle the logs.But i really want to avoid this procedure if possible.

A.



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Re: Chlorine Tap water or Bathtub water for Logs [Re: cocovios]
    #21679299 - 05/14/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Here(its a brewing site) I found this:

"There are several ways that you can remove chlorination from your tap water before you brew with it. This topic should help you to choose which one is right for you.

Off-gassing

If you water contains only chlorine and not chloramine, you can let it sit for 24 hours and the chlorine will dissipate into the environment.

Pros:

Free
Cons:

Takes a long time
Will not remove chloramine
Boiling

If you water contains only chlorine and not chloramine, you can drive the chlorine off by boiling the water for 15 minutes.

Pros:

Faster than waiting for it to off-gas at room temperature
Cons:

Requires a lot of energy and significant time to boil all of your water before you even start brewing.
Will not remove chloramine
Filtration

A charcoal filter is designed to strip your tap water of chlorine and chloramine, block carbon filters are necessary for effective removal.

Pros:

Fast, nearly as fast as your free-running tap
Removes both chlorine and chloramine
Cons:

Filters last roughly 2-6 months depending on water usage and cost between $5 and $30+ dollars to replace depending on the system.
Some charcoal filters need to have water running through them for about 5-10 minutes before being used when replaced. This clears out any charcoal dust that may have been generated during shipment.
Chemical Adjustment

Chlorine and chloramine can be removed from your water by dissolving potassium metabisulfite into it. One campden tablet is enough to dechlorinate 20 gallons of tap water.

Pros:

Very fast - as soon as the K-meta is dissolved in the water and stirred, the water is dechlorinated.
Removes both chlorine and chloramine
Cons:

Powdered potassium metabisulfite smells harsh. If you catch a whiff of the powder when measuring it out, it stings the nostrils not unlike sex panther."

Sex Panther?


But have a look at this paper where it states that:

"Routine watering with AC (Active Chlorine) 5.7mg/l from mushroom initiation to the end of picking resulted in reduced bacterial blotch incidence of 40% and 86% at two mushroom farms. The treatment resulted in higher quality mushroom production compared to that conventionally watered with tap water alone."

So a Sodium Hypochlorite solution apparently helps prevent bacterial blotch more than ordinary tap water.


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Re: Chlorine Tap water or Bathtub water for Logs [Re: OysterKing]
    #21681699 - 05/15/15 03:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks a lot for the info.

Fortunately the tap water in my area does not contain any cloramines, only chlorine.

But even i used a 5-10 micron active carbon filter (that was my first thought) the water had the same amount of chlorine.

I made a chlorine pill test before and after the filter and it had the same color result.

I really dont know if those filter do anything at all.
Some say only a 0.5 micron carbon filter will remove chlorine, who knows?
 
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Re: Chlorine Tap water or Bathtub water for Logs [Re: cocovios]
    #21683050 - 05/15/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Rainwater would not have much chlorine in it in an un-polluted environment. And compounds of chlorine used in tap water should degrade with enough exposure to fresh air (boiling would accelerate that process).

So perhaps leaving your tap water out for a day or two would leave you with water closer to nature's rain. Your Chlorine test pills should show whether it has worked.

Something about that Chloramine business is kind of unsettling. I don't even know if my municipality uses it.

I know ZIP about filters as well..


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Re: Chlorine Tap water or Bathtub water for Logs [Re: OysterKing]
    #21686859 - 05/16/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ok,
thanks a lot.
we will see the results in about a year from now. :wink:


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