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Anonymous #1

LSD and Schizophrenia
    #21686669 - 05/16/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So I'm going to be trying a low dose of LSD for the first time this summer
I've just been a bit worried about what I've been reading about LSD triggering Schizophrenia in people with family history
The one relative I know with schizophrenia is my mom's uncle
So if I do a low dose (~115ug) will anything bad happen?


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Anonymous #2

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #21686853 - 05/16/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If you are going to get schizophrenia you're going to get it regardless.  Lsd or no LSD.  It'd just be a matter of time.  I'm not positive on this though....just my theory.


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Anonymous #3

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21687801 - 05/16/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just take 100-200ug for your first time, youl be completely fine


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Anonymous #4

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #21687814 - 05/16/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

it's a shot in the dark. you'll have to gamble your sanity if you want the euphoria and the extreme goodnesss


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Anonymous #2

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21687815 - 05/16/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

What is sanity?


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Anonymous #4

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #21687834 - 05/16/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

being able to adjust to consensual reality, paying your bills, being independent , not suffering from crippling anxiety and debillitating mental phenomenons


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Anonymous #2

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21687918 - 05/16/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think everyone has their own idea of sanity then.


I felt the most isolated when I did those things you are talking about.  Forcing myself to perceive things how others say I should, working my ass off to pay bills so I can afford to be independent and work my ass off some more, and avoid all the amazing phenomenons that happen.



I think sanity is how you cope with things that are in your way.  Do you scream and stomp? Or smash and try to break through?  Figure it out rationally.

Paying bills and not having anxiety....sheesh if that's all it took to feel copacetic.


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Anonymous #4

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #21687970 - 05/16/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I feel the same way, though, a schizo has no willpower in the way he copes, deal with life.


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Anonymous #4

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21687994 - 05/16/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've been depressed in the past, even had to go to the psych ward, see a therapist, because i was too afraid to face the realities of life. I've grown to be a much more mature man because of that. though i wouldnt wish that on my worse enemy. different strokes for different folks I guess.


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Anonymous #5

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21690582 - 05/17/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

DMT made my schizophrenic symptoms better after the comedown. Just sayin'


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Anonymous #6

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21690890 - 05/17/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

do you think if i took like 10 different tabs, lets say 1kug would i just trip balls or would i die?


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Anonymous #4

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #21690918 - 05/17/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

you'd only die if you attempted suicide, which could be likely due to the fact that your losing your mind on a hellish mental rollercoaster riding through nightmarish dimensions. or you'd end up in jail.



or all could be fine and dandy and dreamy :lol:


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Anonymous #7

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #4] * 1
    #21692037 - 05/17/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

LSD doesn't cause schizophrenia, but it can make it surface sooner than it would otherwise in those predisposed.


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Anonymous #8

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21696095 - 05/18/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

exactly
amph's cause schizophrenia
the conditions for it appear when your amph receptors overload on meth


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Anonymous #9

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21696124 - 05/18/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

My best friend and I tripped acid literally hundreds of times over a 20 year span. He lost his shit one time in the late 90's and had to take some time off in the psych ward. He came back pretty normal for years. He lost his shit twice over the last 4 years and now I refuse to trip with him so he won't dose anymore. He now takes some very strong sedatives and anti psychotics daily and cannot hold a job. He has a substantial family history of mental illness. All that being said, I think his symptoms would have appeared regardless of drug use but, these days, the hallucinagens really bring it out in him. They seemingly had little or no consequence when we were younger. I have no mental illness aside from the occasional bout with depression which is normal for most people.


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Anonymous #8

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #21696132 - 05/18/15 09:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

He now takes some very strong sedatives and anti psychotics daily and cannot hold a job




those drugs themselves cause the brain to shrink
and normal drugs too maybe once you have it
even wiki had to update it's description ...


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Anonymous #5

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #21696785 - 05/19/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

DMT should remind you that you are a god playing a game with a giant family of gods in shitty human vessels that can be healed easily at will after this reminder.

My 2c


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Anonymous #10

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21700218 - 05/19/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You'll trip on LSD, if anything bad happens is entirely on the decisions you make.

~115ug isn't a little bit.  Try 40ug for a little bit FYI.


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Anonymous #11

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21701165 - 05/20/15 05:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
DMT should remind you that you are a god playing a game with a giant family of gods in shitty human vessels that can be healed easily at will after this reminder.

My 2c




2ci or 2cb? :P


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Anonymous #11

Re: LSD and Schizophrenia [Re: Anonymous #11] * 1
    #21701169 - 05/20/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

But in all seriousness, we all go through profound emotional states that affect our mental health. The loss of a brother, divorce, death of a son, even the loss of a pet can trigger psychotic breaks in people.

Psychedelics also induce powerful mental changes. Sometimes positive, sometimes negative. It really depends on how you handle it.


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