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SeaBass
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Corn Nitrogen
#21685451 - 05/16/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi
Im new to the web site but not a noob.
I know that most say that there is no need for fertilizers and I agree as they are not needed.
How ever I have experimented over 5 years with 9-0-0 corn gluten meal (ground to a fine prouder) adding it to bulk substrates and also sprinkling on trays after 1 to two flushes with good results....and even added to mist bottle water...clogs the sprayer sometimes...lol
The system I prefer at the moment is a shot gun modified with a reptile fogger set to go on two min every half hour and lighting is timed 12h on 12h off.(I don't have to check it every day)
I do like the mono tub but don't like the fact of a fan running 24/7 other wise they're the shit.(I find the sound of fans irritating)
Ive been in the game since 2006 and have never seen anything written about it so I figure its time to share.
This stuff is not only food but literally steroids for mushrooms. If added while they are starting to pin they go ape shit example: growing rapidly with dual and even triple heads , thin as paper while being up to 2" wide when turned and even growing upside down on top of each other...etc..
Keep in mind if regulated properly deformities do not occur.
I believe when these sort of anomalies happen in regular circumstances because of a extremely high source of nitrogen packed in one area is what causes this to happen...just an observation....I could be wrong.
Just to give you an idea of what I just mixed up is:
6 cups coir 4 cups verm (up to 1/2" thick) 9 cups Hpoo (mixed with what ever else) 1/2 cup ground oyster shells 2 cups powdered corn nitro (corn gluten meal) 4 cups wheat hay (chopped to 1") 3 cups water
And here is the funny part...before the Hpoo is mixed it smells like dirt but after nitro is added it smells like poo again....just sayin.
Using corn nitro works there is no question for me but if any one knows this: If 9% nitrogen is insoluble then how much of a 98% corn meal is soluble nitrogen? Im assuming its the other 89% but im not sure as I suck balls at science....tried to look it up with no avail!
The reason I ask Is because I have a 32-0-4 mix I would like to try.
Specs on additive are: 32% nitro 4% soluble potash 2% iron
I highly doubt any one has tried this but if you have some input would be appreciated. and if not seriously try the nitro...it works and may help you in certain circumstances.
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Edited by SeaBass (08/31/15 10:42 PM)
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stevo

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Re: Corn Nitrogen *DELETED* [Re: SeaBass]
#21686125 - 05/16/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Season
hookers and blackjack



Registered: 09/16/12
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Re: Corn Nitrogen [Re: stevo]
#21686420 - 05/16/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Interesting. If it's working keep on doing it!
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SeaBass
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That last mix I made up got roasted by a hot day as I had them in the garage....just so people are aware...don't use too much nitrogen! Besides the hot day I noticed that the heat coming off the substrate was way higher then normal.(never used this much before)
This mix was just for experimental purposes. And I don't recommend doing it.
Start with very little then proceed forward.
Thanks for the comments.
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SeaBass
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Re: Corn Nitrogen [Re: SeaBass]
#22171852 - 08/31/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just an update I tried the " 32-0-4 fertilizer " (ground and mixed with water)tried in soaking rye grains seemed to have no effect for colonization of spawn but when added to substrate, rye colonizes fine but substrate is rendered useless...no weird smells or over heating....just chemically sterilized(just a guess)
Please don't try this...it doesn't work!
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: Corn Nitrogen [Re: SeaBass]
#22172005 - 08/31/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032606
I found my 30qt mini with 4 bot holes, 2 top holes works fine in a room with no fan. There is some air movement in there, but not a great deal.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
No, this does not look right...
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SeaBass
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Thanks
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