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Invisibletito123
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My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp
    #21683176 - 05/15/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've been drinking a lot more lately, taking etizolam anywhere from 1-3 mgs / day.  I skip a day once or twice a week and then sometimes I'll take 6 or 7 mgs once in a blue moon.

I've gone through 15 grams of mxe in a year(sharing, with friends.  So probably closer to 5 - 9 grams.)


Anyway, my question is, has anyone successfully reversed any of the side effects of drugs by absintence, exercise, meditation, etc.?

Another question is, can anyone link me to an article on the lingering side effects of alcohol?  I've read that alcohol will affect your brain somehow 1-2 weeks after binge drinking but I can't find any information about that through google.  I feel like alcohol is the culprit behind my brain fog.


Today, I was meeting a guy to sell him a hookah, but then I got off the phone with him, and within a couple of minutes, I completely forgot about us meeting and started wondering what I should do today. 
Luckily, I remembered a minute or two later.


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: tito123]
    #21683212 - 05/15/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Its probably the etiz doing more damage than anything else. Mxe sounds less frequent, but definitely contributing.

I drink daily and after stopping weed my memory is as sharp as wver, so i doubt the alcohol is a major contributor, definitely not helping though.

Cut out the etizolam and give it a month or so amd you should be 70% better


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: tito123]
    #21683851 - 05/15/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Meditation will definitely help.

Also look into Alpha Brain by Onnit:thumbup:


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: ladypsychonaut]
    #21684196 - 05/15/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/alpha-brain-whats-wrong-with-the-supplement-industry/

What you need to know about Alpha Brain is listed above. No evidence, I wouldn't waste my money/effort, only to regret it.


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: Suspector]
    #21684249 - 05/15/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You dont need supplements to help. The simple thing to do is stop taking drugs that cause memory loss.

Op, may not feel like it, buty our memory is fine, just take a break.


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: tito123]
    #21686399 - 05/16/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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tito123 said:
Anyway, my question is, has anyone successfully reversed any of the side effects of drugs by absintence, exercise, meditation, etc.?





Yes - i've wrote about my drug abuse and subsequent recovery many times in this forum.

Although time and abstinence are one part of the solution, it is also important to actively rebuild learning/communication/reward pathways (or whatever it is that's been negatively effected in your situation.) - In my situation the initial impairment that I was experiencing started to get better almost immediately when i improved my lifestyle, but it's actually taken 2 years of active learning (by upgrading and going to university) to get to the point I am at now, which is to say that I am on par/above average with respect to learning ability.

That said - I also know I am nowhere near where I was before becoming a drug addict. I have found Piracetam to help immensely with verbal fluidity and retention.

The problems which persist in my case are verbal fluidity - I struggle to find words or orchestrate thoughts verbally, it takes me time and conscious thought to formulate a complex response to a situation and therefor i lose my train of thought, stumble over my words, and come off as rambling at times. <- I am sure i can "train" this skill aswell, with simple social interaction, which i do not get enough of, although now back in school .... it is coming.

Although I don't meditate, i would like to. It helps 100% and numerous studies support this.

FYI - I abused drugs for 7 years and i am 7 years into recovery and have yet to achieve baseline.


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: PDU]
    #21695662 - 05/18/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

How did you rebuild your reward pathways? 

I find myself constantly feeling very bored, listless, or empty, and I feel like I need to take/do something to not feel that way.


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: tito123]
    #21696343 - 05/18/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Read a book. Then you can eat buffalo wings for a cheat meal. Lol

I mean, you can turn anything into a reward. It is whether or not you stick to it in that sense.

I find other things rewarding. Like I have a pet bird, and a dog. I have to feed my bird sometimes like real food which can be annoying believe it or not, looking up what he can/cant eat. But at the end of the day he just cuddles up to you on your shoulder and that is the reward. Along with seeing him mature since he is a baby african grey. It is the closest thing to a lil kid/baby I have and seeing him sort of being curious and become smarter, understanding reality is wierd and rewarding in that sense. I would rather be sober seeing this, then high and not realizing this. I walk my dog at the park and talk to fellow dog walkers. I get to enjoy the beauty of nature and it is rewarding and relaxing as well. I drink once every 2-3 weeks. So when I do drink it feels eventful. I eat a cheat meal once a week. The rest of the week is all about health.

Short term goals.

I recommend: Your deceptive mind: a scientific guide to critical thinking skills to help you understand/decipher your mind.


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: PDU]
    #21705148 - 05/21/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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PDU said:
Quote:

tito123 said:
Anyway, my question is, has anyone successfully reversed any of the side effects of drugs by absintence, exercise, meditation, etc.?





Yes - i've wrote about my drug abuse and subsequent recovery many times in this forum.

Although time and abstinence are one part of the solution, it is also important to actively rebuild learning/communication/reward pathways (or whatever it is that's been negatively effected in your situation.) - In my situation the initial impairment that I was experiencing started to get better almost immediately when i improved my lifestyle, but it's actually taken 2 years of active learning (by upgrading and going to university) to get to the point I am at now, which is to say that I am on par/above average with respect to learning ability.

That said - I also know I am nowhere near where I was before becoming a drug addict. I have found Piracetam to help immensely with verbal fluidity and retention.

The problems which persist in my case are verbal fluidity - I struggle to find words or orchestrate thoughts verbally, it takes me time and conscious thought to formulate a complex response to a situation and therefor i lose my train of thought, stumble over my words, and come off as rambling at times. <- I am sure i can "train" this skill aswell, with simple social interaction, which i do not get enough of, although now back in school .... it is coming.

Although I don't meditate, i would like to. It helps 100% and numerous studies support this.

FYI - I abused drugs for 7 years and i am 7 years into recovery and have yet to achieve baseline.




What drugs did you abuse if I may ask?


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: drunkboy]
    #21705483 - 05/21/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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What drugs did you abuse if I may ask?




If you were directing your question to me, I have a long list.

If i recall correctly when i had stopped taking drugs regularly I had consumed between 57 and 63 different types of drugs - there's a mostly complete list floating around on the shroomery somewhere. This includes everything from nutmeg and diphenhydramine to the classical psychedelics and hard drugs.

Habituation wise there were a few primary problem drugs:

  • When i was 17/18 I became a habitual and heavy user of cocaine and crack.
  • 19/21 I took alot of MDMA and LSD
  • 22 I started taking alot of pressed ecstacy aswell
  • 22-24 (these years are blurry) I started taking ALOT of Ketamine frequently 1/8th oz/day, in addition to taking lots of the classical psychedelics (mushrooms, lsd, 2cb, mdma, mda) and cocaine.


Back in the day I was a total coke fiend when i did it - but the time period where I was doing it frequently was quite short (<1 year i think).

All the other drugs detached me from reality a fair bit, and were somewhat habit forming but never a problem like the habit forming drugs.

My real problem was Ketamine. I was a total fiend and absolute fucked up K-head. I would do K all day, every day - making a mess of myself in public. Sniffing it until I would lay awake in the early morning early hours screaming in pain due to "k-pains" (and i even went to the hospital one time...).


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: tito123]
    #21705501 - 05/21/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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tito123 said:
How did you rebuild your reward pathways? 





Setting goals and accomplishing them both short and long term. I am still working on this - because it is easiest to put off "delayed gratification" for something which creates instant reward stimulus like drugs do.

Exercise was the initial way to build self esteem and get that natural endorphin rush, while distracting myself. Now school is really helping me practice delayed gratification.

I am getting better at doing things which are important to me, like going for a walk in the woods, riding my bike to work and reading - but it is far to easy to push them away due to laziness. At the end of the day doing these activities, or practicing a hobby ADD much more to my life than sitting on my computer. That said - I get sucked into the void of reddit after dinner around 7pm and even struggle to get off to go to bed on time. In other words - i've become addicted to the internet stimulus and I derive very little benefit from it and need to learn to control ....

Long story short - general health/well being and awareness of WHY you do things, and how they effect you.


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: PDU]
    #21708275 - 05/21/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I highly recommend you take 30mg noopept sublingually once daily for your addling brains. Does wonders especially two weeks in. Costs way less than vitamins too.

As far as alcohol goes - it is literally neurotoxic. You can extrapolate and make fairly educated guesses upon its effects based off of that without having to read studies. I like to browse this repository for studies though http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed . Comes in pretty handy .. I read a lot of studies...


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Re: My short term memory and brain don't feel too sharp [Re: Deckard_Cain]
    #21708368 - 05/21/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Deckard_Cain said:
I highly recommend you take 30mg noopept sublingually once daily for your addling brains. Does wonders especially two weeks in. Costs way less than vitamins too.





I already take piracetam. Will consider noopept when my kg runs out.


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