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is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion?
#21682685 - 05/15/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I want to dive DEEP into the mescaline. Generally 1ft for decent dose. And 2 to be thrown into psychadelia. Bridesii fwiw. Anybody here experienced with the cactus is 4 feet overkill? Like i said i want a DEEP experience.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Magoo]
#21684460 - 05/15/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean shit I'm sure it'll be strong, but what is there to worry about? It'll be over after a couple hours. What would I know though I've only done 2ft Bridg.
Edited by Mescalitoe (05/15/15 10:53 PM)
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Mescalitoe] 1
#21684508 - 05/15/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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cactus will not be over in a couple of hours.
more like 10-15 hours
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Magoo]
#21684524 - 05/15/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Magoo said: I want to dive DEEP into the mescaline. Generally 1ft for decent dose. And 2 to be thrown into psychadelia. Bridesii fwiw. Anybody here experienced with the cactus is 4 feet overkill? Like i said i want a DEEP experience.
4 feet of bridgesii, by god man that is an INSANE dose.
Keep in mind that species of cactus has maoi's in it, which greatly increase effects. a foot of bridgesii is approximately equal to 2 feet of san pedro, so 4 feet is like 8+ feet of san pedro. That is like 3-4g of mescaline
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21684612 - 05/15/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would say it is overkill, although I am in favor of high dose psychedelic exploration. For me personally though, I find mushrooms a better substance for that line of investigation.
Never the less, if you are brave enough to do it, go for it. I would just be careful, because I think mescaline is less forgiving in high doses than mushrooms. It will last a LONG time, possibly cause a lot of nausea and physical discomfort (although you will probably be too dissociated from your body to notice) and be an extremely intense experience. Are you prepared for that? Are you prepared if things go bad? I think its also possible to OD on mescaline, so you might want to look into dosage information and calculate it such that you figure if the cacti are maximum potency what is the largest amount of mescaline you could end up ingesting.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21684631 - 05/15/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said:
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Magoo said: I want to dive DEEP into the mescaline. Generally 1ft for decent dose. And 2 to be thrown into psychadelia. Bridesii fwiw. Anybody here experienced with the cactus is 4 feet overkill? Like i said i want a DEEP experience.
4 feet of bridgesii, by god man that is an INSANE dose.
Keep in mind that species of cactus has maoi's in it, which greatly increase effects. a foot of bridgesii is approximately equal to 2 feet of san pedro, so 4 feet is like 8+ feet of san pedro. That is like 3-4g of mescaline
Erowid lists a heavy dose as 500-700 mg. I would not ingest 4 grams unless I was experienced already with doses approaching that range. The safe way to go is increase your dose a little each time, to see what you can handle, rather than making a big jump.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Magoo]
#21685027 - 05/15/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn dude!
Thats an extreme dose! Are u sure u are prepared to go that deep?
And i dont think each ft is a gram. According to the OP, a foot of his Bridgeii sounds around 400-500mg.
i would drink that large amount slowly as you are getting into the heavy dose range...
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21685040 - 05/15/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea, the actual physical amount of the drug remains the same between the species (for the most part) but because of the maoi's in bridgesii, those 300-500mg in that foot of cactus would feel like 600-1000mg in a foot of bridgesii
Just titrate those conversions to however potent you feel your cactus is
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Edited by Gottaloveacid (05/15/15 10:30 PM)
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21685142 - 05/15/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's a couple to me 
Even shrooms seem like it's a short trip. Idk.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21685412 - 05/16/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP I like your style
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: dirtybeats]
#21685531 - 05/16/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Probably, but it all comes down to that "how far does the rabbit hole go" question. It might just be a bit more intense and longer than 2ft., or it might catapult you into who-knows-what.
I know just 15" got me GOOOOD last time.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Godfather1376]
#21685735 - 05/16/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If people thought of dosing mescaline by inches in relativity to putting a giant mescalito alien dick up your ass by inches maybe everyone would go a little easier, cuz thats essentially what you're doing to your brain.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21686200 - 05/16/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gottaloveacid said:
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Magoo said: I want to dive DEEP into the mescaline. Generally 1ft for decent dose. And 2 to be thrown into psychadelia. Bridesii fwiw. Anybody here experienced with the cactus is 4 feet overkill? Like i said i want a DEEP experience.
4 feet of bridgesii, by god man that is an INSANE dose.
Keep in mind that species of cactus has maoi's in it, which greatly increase effects. a foot of bridgesii is approximately equal to 2 feet of san pedro, so 4 feet is like 8+ feet of san pedro. That is like 3-4g of mescaline
4ft of bridge wouldnt be anywhere near 3-4g of mescaline or even total alkaloids.
4ft of bridge is more like 1-1.5g of mescaline.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Everything]
#21686445 - 05/16/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice metaphor!
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21688785 - 05/16/15 11:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd do it in heartbeat. Cactus is the best. The biggest danger is that you'll throw it all up before even a quarter of it gets absorbed.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: BigHeart]
#21689077 - 05/17/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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BigHeart said: I'd do it in heartbeat. Cactus is the best. The biggest danger is that you'll throw it all up before even a quarter of it gets absorbed.
True, chances are you're gonna lose 50% of it within minutes when you purge. Concentrating a foot and a half tastes vile as fuck, think of almost 4 times that....
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Godfather1376]
#21689159 - 05/17/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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try eating it slowly so the nausea isn't as bad. If your eating the resin from 4ft of cacti then its gonna sit like a rock in your belly, it will sit like pebbles though if you go slow.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Everything]
#21689475 - 05/17/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I agree, next time I'm going to take it in small pieces over an hour or two. Also going to try diphenhydramine for nausea. Ginger isn't strong enough for the mescaline spirit.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: BigHeart] 1
#21689832 - 05/17/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive eaten up to 24" raw and have consumed cactus many times without throwing up. Im confident i could keep it down long enough to absorb more than 50%.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: BigHeart]
#21689843 - 05/17/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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BigHeart said: Yeah I agree, next time I'm going to take it in small pieces over an hour or two. Also going to try diphenhydramine for nausea. Ginger isn't strong enough for the mescaline spirit.
For 1-2ft i like to skin the dark green flesh, dont start eating until its all prepared. Once prepared shove pieces of the green flesh in your mouth and just chomp away getting it mushy, then swallowing with hot chocolate/beer/strong soda. Eat some saltines to really kill the taste.
If you chew it fast and on one side of your mouth you dont taste it much imo. Doing this i can get down 1ft every 20-30min. And it hits me hard I just cant justify boiling for 4-6 hours for anything not more than 2 ft
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: Magoo]
#21691168 - 05/17/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Magoo said:
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BigHeart said: Yeah I agree, next time I'm going to take it in small pieces over an hour or two. Also going to try diphenhydramine for nausea. Ginger isn't strong enough for the mescaline spirit.
For 1-2ft i like to skin the dark green flesh, dont start eating until its all prepared. Once prepared shove pieces of the green flesh in your mouth and just chomp away getting it mushy, then swallowing with hot chocolate/beer/strong soda. Eat some saltines to really kill the taste.
If you chew it fast and on one side of your mouth you dont taste it much imo. Doing this i can get down 1ft every 20-30min. And it hits me hard I just cant justify boiling for 4-6 hours for anything not more than 2 ft
You have more of an iron gut than I do apparently. The alkaloids themselves make me hurl, even when I bypass the taste completely by making tar balls. I will admit that I haven't tried eating fresh yet, but both ethanol tar extract and citric acid water boiling concentrate have made me purge earlier than I wanted to.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: BigHeart]
#21691303 - 05/17/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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what about tea?
I find tea to be hard to keep down, but i can do it.
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21692284 - 05/17/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tea made me barf and it was way more work than making ethanol extract so I won't be making tea again. Maybe I'm just sensitive
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Re: is 4ft of cactus overkill in your opinion? [Re: BigHeart]
#21692587 - 05/17/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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the alcohol extract is way easier on me than tea. The tea tastes like shit, and makes you wanna puke with each sip. however i also think it may be stronger in effect. I know I can actually eat the flesh of a full foot of bridge AND NOT PUKE, but the effects are weakened, although very long-lasting.
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