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OfflinePsilosoulful

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Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing?
    #21682540 - 05/15/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

This is my first grow not using a casing layer and I'm not sure if too much moisture is a bad thing. When i first started fruiting the tub there was a lot of spots with pools of water on the surface. I used a paper towel to lightly dry it up but I'm not sure if i should dry up the water droplets. Is it normal to have water droplets that just sit on the uncased surface, will this affect fruiting development? Should i stop misting at this point and just fan occasionally until the first flush is over?


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #21682548 - 05/15/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

That looks fine. Is it from condensation or misting? I like to throw some verm on my subs when I do something similar but that is to soak up water when it pools due to not being perfectly flat.

What you have looks fine, don't let puddles form though.


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #21682567 - 05/15/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm using the 6 quart dub tub method. The top tub has four holes stuffed with polyfill. I only mist twice a day. So should the verm be sterilized before patching up the wet parts of the sub or is it fine right from the bag?


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #21682583 - 05/15/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

This is normal to see when you put your tub out to fruit.  Don't remove the excess water with paper towel, it causes bruising and can (possibly) bring in contams. I only mist the sides of the tubs and never the substrate directly, this just keeps humidity high.  The process of moisture evaporating off the substrate and FAE are both mechanisms to trigger pinning, so by you manually removing the pools of water your interfering with the process.

Looks good my friend :thumbup:


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Delection]
    #21682591 - 05/15/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

No need to sterilize verm, ever...

So your top tub has holes in it... What about the bottom tub?
Monotubs need holes with a height difference to work. This could be causing low airflow and you might not be evaporating that water very quickly.
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Delection said:
This is normal to see when you put your tub out to fruit.  Don't remove the excess water with paper towel, it causes bruising and can (possibly) bring in contams. I only mist the sides of the tubs and never the substrate directly, this just keeps humidity high.  The process of moisture evaporating off the substrate and FAE are both mechanisms to trigger pinning, so by you manually removing the pools of water your interfering with the process.

Looks good my friend :thumbup:




This principle is totally wrong..

Don't mist the sides, you don't want high humidity, that lowers your evaporation rate...
Mist the substrate only so that it doesn't dry out.

The point of a monotub is not to create high humidity. Check my sig..


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Delection]
    #21682607 - 05/15/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I only mist the sides of the tubs and never the substrate directly:




Do not take this advice. misting tub walls does nothing for your grow. Mist tue substrate as needed. First flushes usually dont need to be misted if at all.


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Hashish]
    #21682631 - 05/15/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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etc1time said:
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I only mist the sides of the tubs and never the substrate directly:




Do not take this advice. misting tub walls does nothing for your grow. Mist tue substrate as needed. First flushes usually dont need to be misted if at all.



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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #21682635 - 05/15/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

This is the dub tub 


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #21682638 - 05/15/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

oops let me make one edit to that post, sorry for the confusion.

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Delection said:
This is normal to see when you put your tub out to fruit.  Don't remove the excess water with paper towel, it causes bruising and can (possibly) bring in contams. I only never mist the sides of the tubs and never the substrate directly, this just keeps humidity high.  The process of moisture evaporating off the substrate and FAE are both mechanisms to trigger pinning, so by you manually removing the pools of water your interfering with the process.

Looks good my friend :thumbup:




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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #21682665 - 05/15/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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This is the dub tub 




That is totally not built to tek. https://files.shroomery.org/files/05-24/923406142-Side_view-double_tub.jpg

The bottom tub needs holes too. Monotubs work by gravity, if your holes are all at the same height, gravity can't pull the heavy CO2 laden air out of your tub.
I am sure you have less than ideal airflow due to this, and it could very well be causing all those water droplets.


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #21682681 - 05/15/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Psilosoulful said:
This is the dub tub 




That is totally not built to tek. https://files.shroomery.org/files/05-24/923406142-Side_view-double_tub.jpg

The bottom tub needs holes too. Monotubs work by gravity, if your holes are all at the same height, gravity can't pull the heavy CO2 laden air out of your tub.
I am sure you have less than ideal airflow due to this, and it could very well be causing all those water droplets.



Ill try that for a larger scale grow. This is the tek im using now.  https://www.shroomology.org/topic/8670-6-quart-dub-tub-mist-and-fan-bulk-tek/


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #21682729 - 05/15/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good  :dealwithit2: How long has it looked like that? 

Maybe stuff the polyfil a little looser in the holes for more FAE.


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: kenslayer]
    #21683004 - 05/15/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Looks good  :dealwithit2: How long has it looked like that? 

Maybe stuff the polyfil a little looser in the holes for more FAE.



It's been in fruiting conditions for a week and its been colonizing the surface more every day. When i checked on it this morning it had a good shroomy smell so i know there's no contaminates  :dancer:


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #21683550 - 05/15/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thats how it's supposed to look :thumbup:

Its pinning, the droplets will evap over the course of the first flush


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21683724 - 05/15/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

A week is pretty norm, it looks colonized.

I do see mycelium creeping up the wall..and pins.
I'll be watching. I would still suggest loosening up the polyfil wad.

Prepare for the flush my brotha!

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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: kenslayer]
    #21683891 - 05/15/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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A week is pretty norm, it looks colonized.

I do see mycelium creeping up the wall..and pins.
I'll be watching. I would still suggest loosening up the polyfil wad.

Prepare for the flush my brotha!

:zaphod:



Cool thanks man!  :awethumb:


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21683900 - 05/15/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Thats how it's supposed to look :thumbup:

Its pinning, the droplets will evap over the course of the first flush



Good i was worried it would contaminate, should i keep fanning three times a day or just leave it alone until after the first flush?  :filosoraptor:


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Re: Water droplets that sit on uncased surface- a bad thing? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #21692094 - 05/17/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Pinzzz  :grin:


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