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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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why???
    #21682216 - 05/15/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

why does one need to fan a SGFC but not a monotub?


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Re: why??? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21682229 - 05/15/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Who said they don't need to fan their monos? It's always a good idea to start fanning when the pinset is in. Never too much fae.


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Re: why??? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21682232 - 05/15/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: why??? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21682235 - 05/15/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
why does one need to fan a SGFC but not a monotub?



Well technically, there is no NEED to fan a SGFC. We only advise fanning it out after misting the cakes, just for a bigger drop in internal RH, to make room in the air for evaporation of the water we just misted to take place. That being said, if the chamber was built right and has proper air flow, there is no real need to fan it, just a need to keep up with the mistings.

Monotubs work off a different principal....they generate tons of heat, which leads to constant surface condensation, which constantly evaporates off if given the proper air flow.

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Who said they don't need to fan their monos? It's always a good idea to start fanning when the pinset is in. Never too much fae.



Except we do not fan for FAE, that is what the holes/polyfill is for, we only fan after misting, and there is no real need to mist a monotub(that is dialed in correctly), the bulk sub should contain all of the moisture needed to pump out a massive first and/or 2nd flush.


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Re: why??? [Re: PussyFart]
    #21682242 - 05/15/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

im so glad im not just learning to grow :zombie3:


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Re: why??? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #21682255 - 05/15/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Would it be ideal to fan a mono? I know a proper mono wont need it, but is there any situation in which it could actually help?


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
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It's just a shot away..


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Re: why??? [Re: PussyFart]
    #21682261 - 05/15/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I knew that :P lol. I just see my friends are a lot healthier, denser, with minimal fuzzy feet if I fan at least twice a day.. :shrug:

If I leave out too little poly on the top holes everything dries out fast as hell. Damn dry climates.. need to baby these things. I have to sacrifice fae for humidity where I am and fanning with casings seem to make it all perfect.


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Re: why??? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21682265 - 05/15/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yes fan your monos :thumbup: loose poly in all he holes :thumbup:


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Re: why??? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #21682274 - 05/15/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ok because im using a humidity dome with trays inside...the mushrooms are growing really slow.

I haven't been fanning at all...I have loose poly with 2 decent size holes on the sides...I hardly mist it...probably once every couple days.


I think ill start fanning and misting a little more.


I used to grow damn near perfect shrooms out of humidity domes but I forgot exactly how I used the domes so im having a little issues.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
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Re: why??? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21682290 - 05/15/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

its real good to exchange the air in the tub a few time a day :thumbup:


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Re: why??? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #21682375 - 05/15/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

tripdawg420 said:
its real good to exchange the air in the tub a few time a day an hour :thumbup:



:thumbup:


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Re: why??? [Re: PussyFart]
    #21682385 - 05/15/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

PussyFart said:
Quote:

tripdawg420 said:
its real good to exchange the air in the tub a few time a day an hour :thumbup:



:thumbup:



right give it a good fan every hour :thumbup:


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Re: why??? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #21682393 - 05/15/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

tripdawg420 said:
Quote:

PussyFart said:
Quote:

tripdawg420 said:
its real good to exchange the air in the tub a few time a day an hour :thumbup:



:thumbup:



right give it a good fan every hour :thumbup:




Wouldnt that make there be extremely low levels of co2?


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: why??? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21682419 - 05/15/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes. Colonization needs co2 levels at 10000-20000 ppm. Fruiting you're aiming for anything less than 1000 ppm of co2. You need oxygen in fruiting. The less co2 the better.


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Re: why??? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21682436 - 05/15/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

^^^rock solid advice.


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Re: why??? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #21682464 - 05/15/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ohh I thought the more co2 the better...well kinda..

I thought the aim was to get as much humidity and FAE exchange as possible without decreasing the co2


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: why??? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #21682568 - 05/15/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

tripdawg420 said:
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PussyFart said:
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tripdawg420 said:
its real good to exchange the air in the tub a few time a day an hour :thumbup:



:thumbup:



right give it a good fan every hour :thumbup:





A good monotub should have constant airflow. No need to fan if dialed in properly. If it isn't perfect then go ahead and fan, maybe mist even...


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Re: why??? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21682579 - 05/15/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
ohh I thought the more co2 the better...well kinda..

I thought the aim was to get as much humidity and FAE exchange as possible without decreasing the co2





No... The point of a monotub is not to create high humidity...

Check my sig..

If your humidity is very high then you can't have any evaporation...

What you want in the monotub is a high CO2 content and dry air. This makes the air heavier overall and will stimulate your airflow.
Dry air will stimulate evaporation and as long as your sub doesn't dry out everything is fine.


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Re: why??? [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #21682595 - 05/15/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

a mono gets far less fae with a few holes
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tripdawg420 said:
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PussyFart said:
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tripdawg420 said:
its real good to exchange the air in the tub a few time a day an hour :thumbup:



:thumbup:



right give it a good fan every hour :thumbup:





A good monotub should have constant airflow. No need to fan if dialed in properly. If it isn't perfect then go ahead and fan, maybe mist even...



can i see your monos :thumbup:


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Re: why??? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #21682614 - 05/15/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Meh, I'm still using BRF to colonize coir, my tubs don't have pinsets like yours...

Whats the point of fanning the tub if you have a fan in the room though? Can't you just adjust its location to give your tub more airflow?

I'm not going to argue people with more experience than me.. If you say fan, I fan


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