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how many shrooms till overdoes?
#21680908 - 05/14/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry if this seems like a newbie question but I'm really curious whats the max shrooms you can take before od also what level trip do you have to be to experience an ego loss
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: GalaxyMist] 1
#21680939 - 05/14/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I usually experience some loss of ego anywhere from 3.5-4 grams. Anything more, it's just a more intense and heavier(although IME great) experience. I've maxed out at 5 grams so far though.
To overdose on psilocybin, you'd need over 17 grams of pure psilocybin (injected, maybe ingested) to kill a 60kg rat(as this has been tested on rats which are very close models to humans). For actual P cubensis mushrooms, you'd need over 1.6 kilograms to get a toxic reaction. You're stomach would more than likely be full, or you'd throw up wayyy before you could take that much. Hell even 17 grams is a lot. And it's most likely more considering we would consume it. Mushrooms are probably one of the safest drugs you could take.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21680951 - 05/14/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Achillita said: I usually experience some loss of ego anywhere from 3.5-4 grams. Anything more, it's just a more intense and heavier(although IME great) experience. I've maxed out at 5 grams so far though.
To overdose on psilocybin, you'd need over 17 grams of pure psilocybin (injected, maybe ingested) to kill a 60kg rat(as this has been tested on rats which are very close models to humans). For actual P cubensis mushrooms, you'd need over 1.6 kilograms to get a toxic reaction. You're stomach would more than likely be full, or you'd throw up wayyy before you could take that much. Hell even 17 grams is a lot. And it's most likely more considering we would consume it. Mushrooms are probably one of the safest drugs you could take.
Thank you and I never knew 17 was that much I read a book awhile ago and this guy was saying he took 20-50 g per trip. I agree on the safe stuff if only the media would get people to say stuff like this instead of pumping out biased opinions
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: GalaxyMist]
#21680957 - 05/14/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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It depends on what you mean by an overdose. Mentally you can overdose on just over a 8th but to die from it you would have to eat a ton like more than a few ounces if you extracted it it could be done but you would have to try very hard i don't think anyone has died unless its a mental overdose and they kill themselves. Shrooms are safe and natural probley more safe than pot unless you cant handle them. For the second question i have had ego deaths on just over a 8th of cubes but their is no set amount to have a ego death its all up to the shrooms. If i wear you i would eat just under a quarter of cubes and lock up all your weapons you may know who you are now but you will change for 6 hours. Also i would put on a nature documentary before you cant use electronics from to much hallucinations. No question is a stupid question except the ones not asked.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21680960 - 05/14/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah it would be almost impossible with mushrooms themselves.
Ego loss for me doesn't come into play unless I take 5+gs. Most of the time its closer to 7, but I have a friend who gets it from less than an eighth. It differs from person to person, once you get a little more experience you will be able to determine where your sweet spot is.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: GalaxyMist]
#21680970 - 05/14/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Achillita said: I usually experience some loss of ego anywhere from 3.5-4 grams. Anything more, it's just a more intense and heavier(although IME great) experience. I've maxed out at 5 grams so far though.
To overdose on psilocybin, you'd need over 17 grams of pure psilocybin (injected, maybe ingested) to kill a 60kg rat(as this has been tested on rats which are very close models to humans). For actual P cubensis mushrooms, you'd need over 1.6 kilograms to get a toxic reaction. You're stomach would more than likely be full, or you'd throw up wayyy before you could take that much. Hell even 17 grams is a lot. And it's most likely more considering we would consume it. Mushrooms are probably one of the safest drugs you could take.
Thank you and I never knew 17 was that much I read a book awhile ago and this guy was saying he took 20-50 g per trip. I agree on the safe stuff if only the media would get people to say stuff like this instead of pumping out biased opinions
17 grams of pure psilocybin. Usually a gram of cubes have ~4.5mg of it. So you would need to take about 400g of cubes to actually overdose.
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thewanderer25 said: It depends on what you mean by an overdose. Mentally you can overdose on just over a 8th but to die from it you would have to eat a ton like more than a few ounces if you extracted it it could be done but you would have to try very hard i don't think anyone has died unless its a mental overdose and they kill themselves. Shrooms are safe and natural probley more safe than pot unless you cant handle them. For the second question i have had ego deaths on just over a 8th of cubes but their is no set amount to have a ego death its all up to the shrooms. If i wear you i would eat just under a quarter of cubes and lock up all your weapons you may know who you are now but you will change for 6 hours. Also i would put on a nature documentary before you cant use electronics from to much hallucinations. No question is a stupid question except the ones not asked. 
Thanks for this very helpful I want to do ego death there's something wrong with me and I need to find out think this would be perfect but I've never tripped in my life and I've been reading up on this like a mad man I think over thinking it but then again you can't be too prepared
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: GalaxyMist]
#21680979 - 05/14/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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It would be 17 gram of pure psilocybin crystals. The book was most likely talking about eating fresh shrooms as that's a pretty common dose range. To eat that much dried would be insane. Most I've heard someone eat (dried) was 14 grams. But someone on these forums ate an ounce over the course of 24 hours.
Honestly, the only psychedelic to be hated on by the media is LSD. I mean magic mushrooms will come up, but the worst they ever say about it is you could have a bad trip, or it messes with your mind.
With LSD they'll say all kinds of far out stuff. Like LSD being addictive, or it'll make you go insane, or that it changes your DNA. Just a bunch of crap. Mushrooms are pretty overlooked by the media.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21680984 - 05/14/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh I found where the information on the overdose of shrooms! Here's the link! It's a good read, it explains a lot.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21680993 - 05/14/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the link and I thought the fresh mushrooms were more potent?
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: GalaxyMist]
#21681011 - 05/14/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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thewanderer25 said: It depends on what you mean by an overdose. Mentally you can overdose on just over a 8th but to die from it you would have to eat a ton like more than a few ounces if you extracted it it could be done but you would have to try very hard i don't think anyone has died unless its a mental overdose and they kill themselves. Shrooms are safe and natural probley more safe than pot unless you cant handle them. For the second question i have had ego deaths on just over a 8th of cubes but their is no set amount to have a ego death its all up to the shrooms. If i wear you i would eat just under a quarter of cubes and lock up all your weapons you may know who you are now but you will change for 6 hours. Also i would put on a nature documentary before you cant use electronics from to much hallucinations. No question is a stupid question except the ones not asked. 
Thanks for this very helpful I want to do ego death there's something wrong with me and I need to find out think this would be perfect but I've never tripped in my life and I've been reading up on this like a mad man I think over thinking it but then again you can't be too prepared
Their is a much better psychedelic for this it helps a lot of people if you have the time and money i would take a trip to Peru i dont know if you know about Ayahuasca but it sounds like its exactly what your after. Its great and if you dont have the cash to visit with a shaman in Peru you can alwas make your own brews from root bark and seeds you can buy on ebay. this is how easy it is to make https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245970 and this is some reports of how it helps and works https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ayahuasca.shtml
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: GalaxyMist] 1
#21681019 - 05/14/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They usually contain more psilocin because during the drying process around half of the psilocin becomes oxidized. But dried mushrooms are more potent per weight.
If you were to eat 10 grams dried or 10 grams fresh, you'll be getting a level 1 trip maybe level 2, but with 10 grams dried you'll be melting with the universe at a level 5 trip.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: GalaxyMist]
#21681020 - 05/14/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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GalaxyMist said: Thank you and I never knew 17 was that much I read a book awhile ago and this guy was saying he took 20-50 g per trip. I agree on the safe stuff if only the media would get people to say stuff like this instead of pumping out biased opinions
Watch the vid that's linked in my sig. Kilindi talks about high dose mushroom trips and their safety.
I personally trip in the 20g range. Not for everyone to say the least..
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thewanderer25 said: It depends on what you mean by an overdose. Mentally you can overdose on just over a 8th but to die from it you would have to eat a ton like more than a few ounces if you extracted it it could be done but you would have to try very hard i don't think anyone has died unless its a mental overdose and they kill themselves. Shrooms are safe and natural probley more safe than pot unless you cant handle them. For the second question i have had ego deaths on just over a 8th of cubes but their is no set amount to have a ego death its all up to the shrooms. If i wear you i would eat just under a quarter of cubes and lock up all your weapons you may know who you are now but you will change for 6 hours. Also i would put on a nature documentary before you cant use electronics from to much hallucinations. No question is a stupid question except the ones not asked. 
Thanks for this very helpful I want to do ego death there's something wrong with me and I need to find out think this would be perfect but I've never tripped in my life and I've been reading up on this like a mad man I think over thinking it but then again you can't be too prepared
Their is a much better psychedelic for this it helps a lot of people if you have the time and money i would take a trip to Peru i dont know if you know about Ayahuasca but it sounds like its exactly what your after. Its great and if you dont have the cash to visit with a shaman in Peru you can alwas make your own brews from root bark and seeds you can buy on ebay. this is how easy it is to make https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245970 and this is some reports of how it helps and works https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Ayahuasca.shtml
Your a hero this looks great thank you so much I will look into this
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21681042 - 05/14/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh and op, an ego death is not the most pleasant experience IMO. I personally love the magic of mushrooms as they have helped me and guided me into the right mindset.
But don't start at a high dose, will you be eating the mushrooms fresh or dried?
I've heard ayahuasca is a great healing medicine. I haven't done ayahuasca yet but I plan to one day. Mushrooms can be very healing and therapeutic IMO. Just start with a low dose and work your way up. Too much can really freak someone out if they don't know how to handle it.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21681068 - 05/14/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Oh and op, an ego death is not the most pleasant experience IMO. I personally love the magic of mushrooms as they have helped me and guided me into the right mindset.
But don't start at a high dose, will you be eating the mushrooms fresh or dried?
I've heard ayahuasca is a great healing medicine. I haven't done ayahuasca yet but I plan to one day. Mushrooms can be very healing and therapeutic IMO. Just start with a low dose and work your way up. Too much can really freak someone out if they don't know how to handle it.
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Achillita said: Oh and op, an ego death is not the most pleasant experience IMO. I personally love the magic of mushrooms as they have helped me and guided me into the right mindset.
But don't start at a high dose, will you be eating the mushrooms fresh or dried?
I've heard ayahuasca is a great healing medicine. I haven't done ayahuasca yet but I plan to one day. Mushrooms can be very healing and therapeutic IMO. Just start with a low dose and work your way up. Too much can really freak someone out if they don't know how to handle it.
I've heard that the ego death has negative aspects also I'm prepared for that and I was planning to go to a nearby forest and see what I could get and I was under the impression that fresh mushrooms were more potent because they hadn't been dried and lost that much psiocin?
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21681072 - 05/14/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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this video explains it well
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I honestly prefer taking dry shrooms because they are easier to consume and keep for longer. If you are looking for P Cubensis, you might wanna head to a cow pasture as they grow plentiful in manure.
It's not so much that ego death is "negative" it's more that it can be scary as hell at times. Don't take shrooms and expect an ego death, because they aren't super common. The reason why some people get turned off of mushrooms is because they take a dose wayy outside their experience and it gets out of control and possibly scary. Mushrooms are a great thing. But start at either 23 grams fresh or 2.5 grams dried.(The doses are for Psilocybe Cubensis)
What mushroom are you looking for particularly? They might still be in season where you are, though. And of course what country you live in.
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Re: how many shrooms till overdoes? [Re: Achillita]
#21681153 - 05/14/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Achillita said: I honestly prefer taking dry shrooms because they are easier to consume and keep for longer. If you are looking for P Cubensis, you might wanna head to a cow pasture as they grow plentiful in manure.
It's not so much that ego death is "negative" it's more that it can be scary as hell at times. Don't take shrooms and expect an ego death, because they aren't super common. The reason why some people get turned off of mushrooms is because they take a dose wayy outside their experience and it gets out of control and possibly scary. Mushrooms are a great thing. But start at either 23 grams fresh or 2.5 grams dried.(The doses are for Psilocybe Cubensis)
What mushroom are you looking for particularly? They might still be in season where you are, though. And of course what country you live in.
I wanted to try psilocybe cubensis but by the looks of it there's no way I can find that in Ontario I'm referring to this list
http://www.shroomery.org/12246/Psilocybin-Mushroom-Locations
And I really didn't want to have to buy it I really would like to find it myself I know a forest that looks like a good place
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thewanderer25 said: this video explains it well
By the looks of it it looks like you have to have good connections and money things I don't have
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